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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2016-10-24T18:12:33+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/663 2016-10-24T18:12:33+01:002016-10-24T18:12:33+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4979#p4979 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Statistics:Posted by Sniffer Dog — Mon 24 Oct, 2016 6:12 pm


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2016-09-22T06:53:10+01:002016-09-22T06:53:10+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4938#p4938 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Statistics:Posted by Smudger — Thu 22 Sep, 2016 6:53 am


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2016-09-16T12:21:30+01:002016-09-16T12:21:30+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4936#p4936 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
http://waitrose.pressarea.com/pressrele ... WS_13/7268

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2016-09-16T09:33:36+01:002016-09-16T09:33:36+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4935#p4935 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Waitrose halting new stores nationwide

This seems like another nail in the coffin. Now can we stop the disastrous planned closing of the bus station?

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2016-07-06T16:46:20+01:002016-07-06T16:46:20+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4828#p4828 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Statistics:Posted by Capitalist Piglet — Wed 06 Jul, 2016 4:46 pm


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2016-03-15T21:44:23+01:002016-03-15T21:44:23+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4566#p4566 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> 6:22 a.m. - 15 Dec 2015'. They add: 'Wrenbridge ‏@Wrenbridge Mar 3
Up to 5 planning applications due to go in before the end of June and hopefully 3-4 build contracts too which will total close to 40M.'

One has to ask where this hotel will be placed on the Hertford Monopoly Board.

One could also ask what has happened to the Hertford Town Centre Urban Design Strategy developed by Tibbalds and others which includes amongst other things the following: 2.2.20 Hotels: Requirements registered by hotel operators and collated by AspinallVerdi show that there is known demand for a hotel in the area. Given the limited supply of hotels within Hertford there is likely to be potential demand for a new hotel in the town centre. Provision of a hotel will further support tourism within the town and help to establish the evening economy. Businesses are also likely to benefit from such a facility.

Well that's a surprise given the announcement from Tibbalds - or possibly the other way round.

You may wonder where this Strategy has been hiding (other than in a folder on my home computer). It was presented to the various councils and stakeholders who have contributed to this development (unfortunately not the writer) on Feb 18. On Feb 25 it was presented to the Development Management Control Committee.

If you would like to read and inwardly digest this massive tome of 112 pages (landscape view) as an Adobe reader file then go to

http://democracy.eastherts.gov.uk/ieLis ... 2839&Ver=4
and look for ERPB.

Almost the whole of Hertford had an input into this yet it remains hidden away from public view including it would seem the Fourth Estate or the Hertfordshire Mercury. The relevance of this strategy was conveyed to Council by Planning Officers as such: 'Officers advised on the distinction between an urban strategy and a neighbourhood plan within the context of considering a planning application. The Panel noted that an adopted neighbourhood plan formed part of the development plan, whilst this Strategy did not, although it was a material consideration that could inform a planning application.' Clear as a pub glass. The full minutes are also available as above.

Finally D-Day approaches or June 16th.

Final PS in answer to Steve I believe the Mercury reported that Van Hages would be resubmitting an application once they were certain of a positive response which I assume means redesignation of the Green Belt. This was expected to be later this year. In the meantime Waitrose/Diageo/Wrenbridge/East Herts have to make up their mind as to what they really really want.

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2016-03-13T04:18:23+01:002016-03-13T04:18:23+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4559#p4559 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
If they were going to submit a revised planning application surely they would have done it by now.

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2015-09-28T15:42:13+01:002015-09-28T15:42:13+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4218#p4218 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> New article on this in the Mercury today

If you were deliberately trying to come up with a euphemism for needing to pay some backhanders you couldn't do better than this...
We spent a lot of time talking to the council last time about how we can make this a success.

There is now a lot of new councillors and we will want to do this again.

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2015-09-16T13:20:38+01:002015-09-16T13:20:38+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4193#p4193 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
The agenda for the Development Management Committee meeting for tonight states that the application has been withdrawn. If it had remained, been discussed and rejected then Van Hages could have appealed.

By withdrawing this application it is now closed but ... there is nothing to stop Van Hages coming up with a completely new application sometime in the future, being as it was them that wanted a foodstore (never quoted Waitrose). Given the nature of the objections listed by Asda it seems unlikely.

Waitrose on the other hand have said that the proposals in Hertford are not viable which leaves them either going back to the drawing board with Deageo/Cordeo-Savills/Wrenbridge with a huge slice of humble pie or pulling out completely next June.

I understand that there are several options available to keep Waitrose in town which involves partial demolition and redevelopment of Bircherley Green. I am having to rewrite my reply to Tibbalds in response to their questionnaire because of this. Damn. :? :evil: :?

Why do these things always happen at the last moment; they must have been discussed for some time.
This is the second time they've done this. They withdrew the application on the day of the Development Control meeting when it was first due to be discussed last December. Then they resubmitted it a few weeks later.

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2015-09-16T13:04:23+01:002015-09-16T13:04:23+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4192#p4192 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
By withdrawing this application it is now closed but ... there is nothing to stop Van Hages coming up with a completely new application sometime in the future, being as it was them that wanted a foodstore (never quoted Waitrose). Given the nature of the objections listed by Asda it seems unlikely.

Waitrose on the other hand have said that the proposals in Hertford are not viable which leaves them either going back to the drawing board with Deageo/Cordeo-Savills/Wrenbridge with a huge slice of humble pie or pulling out completely next June.

I understand that there are several options available to keep Waitrose in town which involves partial demolition and redevelopment of Bircherley Green. I am having to rewrite my reply to Tibbalds in response to their questionnaire because of this. Damn. :? :evil: :?

Why do these things always happen at the last moment; they must have been discussed for some time.

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2015-09-16T12:48:46+01:002015-09-16T12:48:46+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4191#p4191 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> The supermarket planning application has been withdrawn by the applicant, so won't be considered tonight. We wait to see what happens next.

Probably just for this meeting - not for good.

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2015-09-16T12:41:58+01:002015-09-16T12:41:58+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4190#p4190 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Statistics:Posted by MultiDad — Wed 16 Sep, 2015 12:41 pm


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2015-09-16T12:17:56+01:002015-09-16T12:17:56+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4189#p4189 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
so it seems Waitrose has withdrawn it's application.... BOOOOOOO

Yaaay!


Source/Link?

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2015-09-16T11:28:36+01:002015-09-16T11:28:36+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4188#p4188 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]> Statistics:Posted by MultiDad — Wed 16 Sep, 2015 11:28 am


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2015-07-23T12:55:10+01:002015-07-23T12:55:10+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=663&p=4010#p4010 <![CDATA[Re: Waitrose at Van Hages]]>
http://online.eastherts.gov.uk/rkyvport ... dex=764873

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