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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2015-07-29T08:49:25+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/634 2015-07-29T08:49:25+01:002015-07-29T08:49:25+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=4033#p4033 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]>
I am intrigued as to which footways/pavements the offending cyclists are riding on. I've not noticed any endemic problem here. Most of Hertford's pavements can hardly fit a pedestrian, let alone a bicycle, and I have no idea how anyone would manage to ride on them given that they are blocked with pushchairs, pedestrians and loiterers. There are however a few shared-use paths (e.g. past McMullens towards Folly Island) and some bits of unfortunate planning that leave cyclists baffled - such as the "Toucan" (i.e. shared use) crossing over Gascoyne Way towards the Castle, which you can't reach on a bicycle without mounting a very narrow stretch of pavement.

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2015-07-28T08:12:12+01:002015-07-28T08:12:12+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=4031#p4031 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> Statistics:Posted by Golden — Tue 28 Jul, 2015 8:12 am


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2015-07-28T06:42:20+01:002015-07-28T06:42:20+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=4030#p4030 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> Statistics:Posted by muddy — Tue 28 Jul, 2015 6:42 am


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2015-07-27T23:02:01+01:002015-07-27T23:02:01+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=4029#p4029 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> Statistics:Posted by Golden — Mon 27 Jul, 2015 11:02 pm


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2015-07-27T21:46:36+01:002015-07-27T21:46:36+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=4028#p4028 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> ) and quite a lot of abuse, as I wend my way across my home town. Shame becuase me on a bike is one fewer car to be stuck behind..

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I couldn't help but notice our local HiViz clad bobby on a bicycle riding his bike both on the pavement and across the pelican crossing outside Wetherspoons today :lol:

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2015-06-26T18:45:09+01:002015-06-26T18:45:09+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=3909#p3909 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> Statistics:Posted by dutch knight — Fri 26 Jun, 2015 6:45 pm


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Ok, so I'll take the gender bias out of a commonly used phrase as you don't understand it. Here is my point in simple language
I wasn't really looking for a fight, but since you're so keen, here goes...
Some people in Hertford ride on the footway (pavement) when it is prohibited to do so (children are excepted under Police guidance).
It's illegal to ride on the pavement for everyone, but children are only "allowed" to since they're below the age of criminal responsibility. In addition to this, the official line from the Department for Transport (DfT) is that cyclists may ride on the footway – more commonly referred to as pavements – provided they do so considerately, and that police officers need to exercise discretion.
Apart from Gascoyne Way Hertford is not a very dangerous place to cycle (go to any big city or urban conurbation and compare). If they feel they have to ride on the footway because they think the roads are unsafe, maybe they should question their cycling ability & confidence.
My whole argument has been about perceived danger. You've clearly never experienced motorists deliberately swerving as close as possible to you on an overtake on a country lane, or being beeped at up Port Hill, or had half a can of Red Bull thrown at you from a passenger window, or been told to "F**k off onto the pavement, you c**t" when it's the car that's failed to give way on Fore Street, or a delivery van squeezing past you on a narrow road with two rows of parked cars on either side only to stop 100 metres down the road and have the driver door open on you, or (my favourite) a pot smoking driver shout you "F**king Be**end" at you because you STOPPED at a red light on St. Andrew St.
Shouting at people with small children to get out the way so they zip past on their bike when the road is perfectly safe to cycle on it not acceptable
You're right. It's not acceptable. But one incident of this behaviour isn't typical behaviour of cyclists in general. Meanwhile motorists speeding, parking dangerously, using mobiles at the wheel, drink/drug driving, running red lights and generally being aggressive is something I see on a typical bike ride.
There, a lot clearer now.
Just as clear the first time round, but more patronising.

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Some people in Hertford ride on the footway (pavement) when it is prohibited to do so (children are excepted under Police guidance).
Apart from Gascoyne Way Hertford is not a very dangerous place to cycle (go to any big city or urban conurbation and compare).
If they feel they have to ride on the footway because they think the roads are unsafe, maybe they should question their cycling ability & confidence.
Shouting at people with small children to get out the way so they zip past on their bike when the road is perfectly safe to cycle on it not acceptable.

There, a lot clearer now.

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2015-06-26T14:03:32+01:002015-06-26T14:03:32+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=3905#p3905 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]>
Sorry, but if you're not man (or woman) enough to ride a bike on the road in Hertford then you're probably not good enough to ride at all.
Well done for identifying the problem. Cycling shouldn't just be for hard men. If roads are only being designed for car users, don't be surprised if you find people riding bikes where they feel safer.

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2015-06-11T17:58:23+01:002015-06-11T17:58:23+01:00 https://hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=634&p=3854#p3854 <![CDATA[Re: Inconsiderate cycling on the footways.]]> Statistics:Posted by Golden — Thu 11 Jun, 2015 5:58 pm


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