Topic ID 1225
http://www.hertsdirect.org/actweb/roadworks/default.cfm A414 HERTINGFORDBURY ROAD, HERTFORD map SEVERE Also affecting A10 NORTHBOUND OFFSLIP, RUSH GREEN LINK ROAD, STANSTEAD ROAD Work due to start week beginning 24 Jan 2006 lasting 12 weeks Description Roads/street works: Safety Improvement Works incorporating installation of traffic signals, street lighting, bituminous resurfacing and high friction surfacing. Traffic management road closed to traffic Working pattern 24 hour working Scheme ref SRA00003 Diversion London Road, Hertford Road, Ware Road, Pepper Hill, Amwell Hill, London Road, Stanstead Road
Reply ID 14322
I guess that's going to be loads of delays in the morning. I feel working from home is coming....
Reply ID 14364
So which councillor comes to Hertford southbound on the A10 and doesn't like waiting?! Total overkill. They should sort out the wrong use of lanes before they waste a load of tax payers money....again!
Reply ID 14375
quote:TRhat's another part of my 30 mile journey fouled up for 12 weeks. 3hrs commuting? Maybe I should quit work now... <sigh>
Originally posted by spitfire
http://www.hertsdirect.org/actweb/roadworks/default.cfm A414 HERTINGFORDBURY ROAD, HERTFORD map SEVERE Also affecting A10 NORTHBOUND OFFSLIP, RUSH GREEN LINK ROAD, STANSTEAD ROAD Work due to start week beginning 24 Jan 2006 lasting 12 weeks Description Roads/street works: Safety Improvement Works incorporating installation of traffic signals, street lighting, bituminous resurfacing and high friction surfacing. Traffic management road closed to traffic Working pattern 24 hour working Scheme ref SRA00003 Diversion London Road, Hertford Road, Ware Road, Pepper Hill, Amwell Hill, London Road, Stanstead Road
Reply ID 14431
get the train from Hertford East - even that's quicker than 3 hours (most of the time)
Reply ID 14434
quote:Seriously considering it. It'll cost more than my monthly petrol, but at least I'll be able to read, sleep & arrive at work in a good(ish) mood...[:)]
Originally posted by thefair1973
get the train from Hertford East - even that's quicker than 3 hours (most of the time)
Reply ID 14436
or you could always use the normally reliable service from Hertford North? Even working in Docklands, it still only takes about an hour. I work in Lewisham (aka Hell) and it only takes me 1hr10mins door-to-door
Reply ID 14437
I'll have to cut through Hertford Heath on my epic journey to work in Hodessdon to avoid it all!!
Reply ID 14440
I bet they don't sort out the access problems to McDonalds & BP while the road is up. That would be too logical.
Reply ID 14443
quote:How do you manage that? takes me 1hr 10 to get to Canary Wharf (walk from Moorgate to Bank, then DLR)
Originally posted by thefair1973
or you could always use the normally reliable service from Hertford North? Even working in Docklands, it still only takes about an hour. I work in Lewisham (aka Hell) and it only takes me 1hr10mins door-to-door
Reply ID 14454
I only get the fast trains from Hertford N to Moorgate (0720 is fastest I think), switch to the Northern Line to London Bridge then good old South Eastern trains to Lewisham. When I'm working in Canary Wharf, I just get the Northern from Moorgate to Bank and switch to the DLR. It's about the same time if you get teh jubilee from London Bridge rather than the DLR anyway
Reply ID 14457
Getting back on topic, is it known whether the Rush Green roundabout is to be closed permanently at any point during the 12 weeks, or will there always be a route to get to the petrol station??
Reply ID 14465
quote:Ahaaa! This is where I come in! This morning I spoke to a nice lady who works within Hertfordshire highways and the answer is: They are "duty bound" to maintain business interests so that you can still fill up on petrol as well as some non-food "food" at MuckDonalds. Works will be carried out one slip road at a time. Said slip road(s) will be totally closed during off peak hours. During peak hours, the slip roads will remain open to highway users. The A414 will remain open with "safety zones" to enable continual works. Diversions will take place along Ware Road. And yes, it really will take 12 weeks...<sigh>
Originally posted by Blakey
Getting back on topic, is it known whether the Rush Green roundabout is to be closed permanently at any point during the 12 weeks, or will there always be a route to get to the petrol station??
Reply ID 14466
Anyone prepared to wager a pint of Kronenbourg Blanc in the Snug that it takes longer than 12 weeks??
Reply ID 14567
So, they are not closing rush green completely then?
Reply ID 14572
It will probably take about 12 weeks weather permitting. If they could close the roundabout the scheme would take about a third of the time. Once installed you'll then get about 4 weeks of "adjustments" as they try and get the lights to synchronize to match the traffic flow.
Reply ID 14578
I still can't see why Rush Green even needs Traffic Lights. At this rate we will all have Traffic lights at the bottom of our drives by 2010 because pulling out into the road whithout them is dangerous and causes accidents.
Reply ID 14598
It doesn't need traffic lights. Street lights will be a good move, but the traffic light installation smacks of "use up the budget" to me.
Reply ID 14600
quote:Exactly. It's getting to that time of the year.
Originally posted by Dude
It doesn't need traffic lights. Street lights will be a good move, but the traffic light installation smacks of "use up the budget" to me.
Reply ID 14607
I agree with Dude. All the roundabout needs is lights - and the closing down of MuckDonalds - how they managed to get planning permission is beyond me.
Reply ID 14641
Of course it is a waste of money, councillors were threatened by the road planners with the vague possibility that they may be sued if some idiot went and did what they shouldn't and caused an acident. People should take responsibility for their own actions, learn to drive properly and not go cutting up everyone and their dog (who shouldn't be on the roundabout in the first place) just so they can get to their destination a minute or two quicker. It's just another result of the "blame culture" with everyone thinking they can get a fast buck of compensation. (I'll think I will end there before I really get into rant mode about the Thatcher years and greed, damn, damn, damn, I just did.....) [:(!]
Reply ID 14683
I think the roundabout does need traffic lights. If you are trying to get on to the roundabout from the ware direction at any busy period you have a long wait as the huge volume up fast traffic hurtles towards you heading for the southbound sliproad. So what? The trouble is that it is diffult to judge the speed of this traffic and only a slight miscaluclation with the clutch could lead to a fatal accident. We are all in a hurry and we all need as much protection from each other as we can get.
Reply ID 14696
quote:I think the misuse of lanes is more to blame than the volume of traffic. We cannot go right, for ANY reason, in the left hand lane. Yet on this roundabout, everyone seems to ignore the law.
Originally posted by Dillon
I think the roundabout does need traffic lights. If you are trying to get on to the roundabout from the ware direction at any busy period you have a long wait as the huge volume up fast traffic hurtles towards you heading for the southbound sliproad. So what? The trouble is that it is diffult to judge the speed of this traffic and only a slight miscaluclation with the clutch could lead to a fatal accident. We are all in a hurry and we all need as much protection from each other as we can get.
Reply ID 14705
quote:But if you leave the Southbound A10 at Rush Green there are 2 lanes. All viable exits to the roundabout are right so you are saying that nobody should be using the left had lane. Also People joining the A10 Southbound need to pull across from the right hand lane to their exit at some point and once they have passed the Northbound Sliproad their exit is the next one. Many roundabouts no have lane markings that provide a more common sense approach eg. 2 lanes on 2 lanes off on the main road even if the line of the road is slightly to the left or right of straight ahead. Some people are just too stupid to realise that it is perfectly safe and sensible to use both lanes so they will queue up in one lane and moan about people using the other one. A simple "Get in Lane" sign at Rush Green would probably be sufficient to sort out many of the problems
Originally posted by Dude
We cannot go right, for ANY reason, in the left hand lane. Yet on this roundabout, everyone seems to ignore the law.
Reply ID 14883
quote:Technically, yes, coming soundbound off the A10, The left lane is for A10 re-access only. Now of course it would be stupid to enforce this, so simple signage to designate different lanes for different exits would be a much cheaper and bigger help. As far as exiting onto the A10 soundbound is concerned, I think this is the issue causing most of the knock on problems on the roundabout. It should be straight forward. Entering the roundabout from the A414, Cars should move from the right lane to the left lane once it has passed the last available turn off (A10 North). The problems arise because too many stupid drivers enter the roundabout in the left lane, only to stay in it all the way wound to the A10 Southbound (Right) exit. This causes three problems. Firstly it creates accidents, which we have seen there many times, particularly on the final corner. Secondly, it creates more hazard and delay for the people trying to exit the A10 southbound. Lastly, it creates delays for people who should genuinely be in the left lane (those exiting at Gallows Hill, BP or A10 North).
Originally posted by jez_pquote:But if you leave the Southbound A10 at Rush Green there are 2 lanes. All viable exits to the roundabout are right so you are saying that nobody should be using the left had lane. Also People joining the A10 Southbound need to pull across from the right hand lane to their exit at some point and once they have passed the Northbound Sliproad their exit is the next one. Many roundabouts no have lane markings that provide a more common sense approach eg. 2 lanes on 2 lanes off on the main road even if the line of the road is slightly to the left or right of straight ahead. Some people are just too stupid to realise that it is perfectly safe and sensible to use both lanes so they will queue up in one lane and moan about people using the other one. A simple "Get in Lane" sign at Rush Green would probably be sufficient to sort out many of the problems
Originally posted by Dude
We cannot go right, for ANY reason, in the left hand lane. Yet on this roundabout, everyone seems to ignore the law.
Reply ID 14884
If the mess they made of Hatfield Tescos Roundabout is anything to go by, Herts Highways don't appear to go in for lane signs - I am always getting cut up by cars in the wrong lane on that rounabout (coming from the A1 Northbound)
Reply ID 14886
I think the problem with Rush Green is that it's just too big to be treated as a roundabout, it doesn't even seem like one sometimes as you're driving along it. In the past I've even witnessed cars coming out of the petrol station and turning right! I don't think it needs lights - I use it from the A10 southbound exit and rarely have a problem pulling out - sometimes takes a little while at peak times but where doesn't around here? As for Hatfield - the Tesco roundabout really does take the p*ss. You end up with a complete clash of cultures between those who use the roundabout in the legal way (spiralling out by one lane per set of lights) and those who use it in the sensible way (getting in the wrong lane to start with.) Definite recipe for disaster. Every time I drive round it I marvel at the wisdom of whoever designed it [V]
Reply ID 14887
quote:Sorry Dude your not right with this, the Highway Code only states you should use the appropriate lane,: 162: Signals and position, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise. When taking the first exit signal left and approach in the left-hand lane keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave. When taking any intermediate exit select the appropriate lane on approach to and on the roundabout, signalling as necessary stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When taking the last exit or going full circle signal right and approach in the right-hand lane keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
Originally posted by Dudequote:Technically, yes, coming soundbound off the A10, The left lane is for A10 re-access only.
Originally posted by jez_pquote:But if you leave the Southbound A10 at Rush Green there are 2 lanes. All viable exits to the roundabout are right so you are saying that nobody should be using the left had lane. Also People joining the A10 Southbound need to pull across from the right hand lane to their exit at some point and once they have passed the Northbound Sliproad their exit is the next one. Many roundabouts no have lane markings that provide a more common sense approach eg. 2 lanes on 2 lanes off on the main road even if the line of the road is slightly to the left or right of straight ahead. Some people are just too stupid to realise that it is perfectly safe and sensible to use both lanes so they will queue up in one lane and moan about people using the other one. A simple "Get in Lane" sign at Rush Green would probably be sufficient to sort out many of the problems
Originally posted by Dude
We cannot go right, for ANY reason, in the left hand lane. Yet on this roundabout, everyone seems to ignore the law.
Reply ID 14890
As someone who has only recently passed their driving test (at the ripe old age of 32, but at least I got it 1st time of asking!), I drove around Rush Green for the 1st time last week and I didn't really see any problems with it, apart from the usual lack of markings, cats eyes & signage. I think it could benefit from part-time traffic lights, as all major intersections should have, but if they put full-time signals in, waste of time.
Reply ID 14909
Have to get my two cents in on this one, I use the roundabout at all types of day and night most often at around 10pm. At this time I rarely see more than a trickle of other cars. If these traffic lights are full time it will hold me up maybe 3 or 4 nights a week for no reason at all. If this is the case I shall embark on mission impossible... to have the council change their minds and make them part-time!
Reply ID 14914
quote:No problem! [:)]But I'm afraid you took the section of the highway code out of context. The reason the highway code says "appropriate lane", is it is in reference to a previous diagram in section 160, which shows the "correct procedure at roundabouts". This image clearly show both the access/exit options, and the signalling required. The image clearly shows that there is no option for right turn in the left lane. The advanced driving test also confirms this. You cannot go right in the left lane, unless road markings or highway signage instruct otherwise (unless you are a horse or cyclist).
Originally posted by Pelham 123quote:Sorry Dude your not right with this, the Highway Code only states you should use the appropriate lane,: 162: Signals and position, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise. When taking the first exit signal left and approach in the left-hand lane keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave. When taking any intermediate exit select the appropriate lane on approach to and on the roundabout, signalling as necessary stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When taking the last exit or going full circle signal right and approach in the right-hand lane keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.
Originally posted by Dudequote:Technically, yes, coming soundbound off the A10, The left lane is for A10 re-access only.
Originally posted by jez_pquote:But if you leave the Southbound A10 at Rush Green there are 2 lanes. All viable exits to the roundabout are right so you are saying that nobody should be using the left had lane. Also People joining the A10 Southbound need to pull across from the right hand lane to their exit at some point and once they have passed the Northbound Sliproad their exit is the next one. Many roundabouts no have lane markings that provide a more common sense approach eg. 2 lanes on 2 lanes off on the main road even if the line of the road is slightly to the left or right of straight ahead. Some people are just too stupid to realise that it is perfectly safe and sensible to use both lanes so they will queue up in one lane and moan about people using the other one. A simple "Get in Lane" sign at Rush Green would probably be sufficient to sort out many of the problems
Originally posted by Dude
We cannot go right, for ANY reason, in the left hand lane. Yet on this roundabout, everyone seems to ignore the law.
Reply ID 14920
I would be in favour of Part-time signals.[^]
Reply ID 14997
quote:If the signals are only part time, what do they do the rest of the time? Help Old Ladies across the road? Make videos of them mucking about in the town centre? Sorry admin flippant - off topic comment I still think that Traffic Lights are unnecessary better signage and road markings would be far more appropriate - I guess it is too late now though. Incidentally I am sure there is a sign up on the roundabout saying what the scheme is costing 180000 or something.
Originally posted by Jimbo
I would be in favour of Part-time signals.[^]
Reply ID 15001
It is obvious to anyone that travels to Hertford on the A10 North or South at around 8.00am every morning why they want to put traffic lights on the Rush Green Roundabout. The traffic backs up down both slip roads on to the duel carriage way, in both directions causing a potential accident blackspot. It will affect me, but this one makes sense. Round and round in circles, like a teddy bare, 1 step, 2 steps, traffic lights everywhere!
Reply ID 15005
As with most road improvement schemes, road signs, changes etc, this change was proposed to improve safety at the Rush Green roundabout. The traffic lights have been approved on the grounds that accidents are most frequent in off peak periods and as a result of high approach speeds to the roundabout. The lights do not appear to have been sought or approved on the basis of helping the traffic flow. In Feb 2005, the estimated cost of the scheme was £450,000. (For info, in April 2005 a meeting at Castle Hall approved a skatepark in Hertford with funding approved of £180,000. Unconnected departments but just information.) The conclusion, therefore, would seem to be that these will be full time lights since their primary function is to reduce accidents during off peak times. Easing congestion is quoted as an additional effect of the installation. The link below is where I eventually found the relevant information. http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/democratic_services/archive/2005/committees/Highways%20Partnership%20Joint%20Member%20Panel/070205/Item8.pdf
Reply ID 15006
It surprises me that I have not witnessed one accident during off peak hours at rush green in the past 12 months that I have been using the roundabout on a daily basis out of hours, yet I have seen at least 3 crashes on my days off at more peak times. I would be interested in seeing the figures behind this decision.
Reply ID 15009
Sounds like a load of old b*****ks to me. What about the nutters during off peak hours that fly up the slip road at 90 mph only to find a que of cars waiting at a red light KEEERRRRAAASSSHHHH!!!!!!
Reply ID 15011
if someone travelling at 90mph up a slip lane is involved in a crash, you can't really blame it on the traffic lights.
Reply ID 15017
quote:Sounds to me like "driving without due care and attention"
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
What about the nutters during off peak hours that fly up the slip road at 90 mph only to find a que of cars waiting at a red light KEEERRRRAAASSSHHHH!!!!!!
Reply ID 15021
quote:Wasnt blameing the traffic lights, but if you honestly think that there are people that do not reduced their speeds on slip roads until the very end you are sadly mistaken. And if you think a sign saying traffic lights will make any difference you will be wrong again. The only real benifit to the lights will be to ease the traffic from the north and south, the council just want to invent another reason to try nd make the cost more plausible.
Originally posted by Joby
if someone travelling at 90mph up a slip lane is involved in a crash, you can't really blame it on the traffic lights.
Reply ID 15119
quote:Sounds more like joyriding to me!! maybe we should get some speedhumps fitted instead?
Originally posted by Stevequote:Sounds to me like "driving without due care and attention"
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
What about the nutters during off peak hours that fly up the slip road at 90 mph only to find a que of cars waiting at a red light KEEERRRRAAASSSHHHH!!!!!!
Reply ID 16055
there was a number of recorded "accidents" at the rush green roundabout. I am aware of at least 3 which resulted in 2 lorries and a bus(on seperate occasions) falling foul to adverse camber on the far side of the roundabout, but i cant see how traffic lights will stop tall vehicles toppling over when they drive too fast.... on congestion, it might ease at some junctions but will increase at others..there will still be the same amount of traffic after all..in fact it will increase due to the time between changing light signals...can't wait...
Reply ID 16056
If the A10 northbound slip road gets lights, and the road coming from the Anwell Roundabout get lights, surely it will be chaos?
Reply ID 16061
quote:if only the council could reach such simple conclusions!
Originally posted by Dude
If the A10 northbound slip road gets lights, and the road coming from the Anwell Roundabout get lights, surely it will be chaos?
Reply ID 16063
quote:Sorry, maybe I'm having a "moment" here, but I don't understand why there would be chaos.
Originally posted by Dude
If the A10 northbound slip road gets lights, and the road coming from the Anwell Roundabout get lights, surely it will be chaos?
Reply ID 16120
i think the basic theory is that if you have a junction that carries a large volume of traffic such as hertford road, but where traffic manages to filter out at a reasonable pace, and given that the A10/A414 traffic will get longer periods of green, this could, in theory, cause a problem. I've just envisaged a new rat run through hertford heath! especially at school run times...like i said, cant wait!
Reply ID 17126
[url="http://www.hertslink.org/portal/eDemocracy/Civic%20Calendar/HCC/archive/Development%20Control%20Committee_3/Item%202%20-%20Appendix%20C.pdf"]PDF Link[/url] (824K) Shows exactly where the lights will be Link edited by Admin
Reply ID 17128
I think it is crazy that Hertfordshire Highways can waste money on Traffic lights (not to mention the environmental cost of those extra light bulbs left on 24x7) but they can't fix the road outside Much Hadham -is it the B1004? the one where half the carriageway has fallen down the bank - apparently their last excuse was lack of money. nice to know that Herts CC have their priorities straight.
Reply ID 17129
quote:So the lights aren't going to help the people coming from Gallows Hill, Hoe Lane (Ware) and the Services then. All the lights will do is regulate the traffic so that there is a constant stream on the roundabout - rather like the exit from Fore Street onto the A414
Originally posted by eelynda
Shows exactly where the lights will be
Reply ID 17130
quote:maybe thats why people dont come to hertford, because they can't get out!
- rather like the exit from Fore Street onto the A414
Reply ID 17132
quote:Looks like it. The improvements will benefit the people traveling through Hertford, more than the people who live there. Just like the ones on the Bluecoats roundabout.[xx(]
Originally posted by jez_pquote:So the lights aren't going to help the people coming from Gallows Hill, Hoe Lane (Ware) and the Services then. All the lights will do is regulate the traffic so that there is a constant stream on the roundabout - rather like the exit from Fore Street onto the A414
Originally posted by eelynda
Shows exactly where the lights will be
Reply ID 17369
I think this is a part of a well orchesrated plan by the County Council. Cause even more snarl ups in the Herford area and press home the need for a Hertford bypass. Nomatter what effect it has on the local area and environment. Now I tell you what is badly needed, a roundabout at the junction of Hoe Lane and Stanstead Road!
Reply ID 18087
The road works at rush green roundabout dont effect my trip to work i leave at 7 and at 3.30 on the way back i see the work men removing the cones to make 2 lanes again. no problems
Reply ID 18089
quote:Only because of all the parents driving their kids to Presdales in their 4x4s [:p]
Originally posted by swift_nick
Now I tell you what is badly needed, a roundabout at the junction of Hoe Lane and Stanstead Road!
Reply ID 18113
Come on everyone - get a grip. Yes the traffic lights will regulate the flow - So what? At the very, very worst, that may add a couple of minutes to your daily commute. And if that extra couple of minutes is that awful to contemplate, you really ought to think about a career change. And (yes I'm in an 'and' mood today) people seem to have overlooked the main benefit - the street lighting. The main problem with the Rush Green roundabout was that it was always so bl**dy dark. And Hertfordshire Highways said LET THERE BE LIGHT... [8D]
Reply ID 18503
By the way - does anyone know where the B1052 is that the painted markings proudly point out on the left hand lane of the A414 as it approaches Rush Green? Maybe Herts Highways employ their sign painters from the Guardian?![;)]
Reply ID 18506
Another accident on the Rush Green roundabout today. Trying to get onto the roundabout from the A10 or petrol station can be a nightmare. I think the traffic lights will be a good idea.
Reply ID 18515
The trouble is that the lights will not help you get out of the petrol station only off the A10
Reply ID 18518
Not sure about that. The problem with the petrol station isn't the traffic from Gallows Hill but from the feeder roads beforehand. Hopefully the lights at the A414 section will help. Time will tell.
Reply ID 18519
I think another potential problem will be that there doesn't seem to be any way of controlling the flow of traffic off the road that runs parallel to the A10. There, people keep assuming that there's a feeder lane directly onto the A414 when of course there isn't - which is what also leads to lots of the accidents which one sees on the roundabout...
Reply ID 19255
Came off the A10 today.........and the lights are on..............................
Reply ID 19261
Came off the A10 last night and a car went straight through the red light! Know he shouldn't have done it but can understand the frustration as the lights were red and there was no other traffic on the roundabout at all!
Reply ID 19262
quote:What time was this? Hopefully the lights are rush-hour only as sitting at the lights with no traffic around late at night will be a complete pain in the a*se.
Originally posted by Chicks
Came off the A10 last night and a car went straight through the red light! Know he shouldn't have done it but can understand the frustration as the lights were red and there was no other traffic on the roundabout at all!
Reply ID 19263
Lights were on at lunchtime, but the roundabout was actually busy at that time.
Reply ID 19264
quote:They were on at 10pm last night.
Originally posted by farrowandfarrowquote:What time was this? Hopefully the lights are rush-hour only as sitting at the lights with no traffic around late at night will be a complete pain in the a*se.
Originally posted by Chicks
Came off the A10 last night and a car went straight through the red light! Know he shouldn't have done it but can understand the frustration as the lights were red and there was no other traffic on the roundabout at all!
Reply ID 19266
I haven't seen a sign to say they are part-time - and what would they be the rest of the time? Perhaps they become occasional tables when they aren't being part-time traffic lights :-)
Reply ID 19294
So, now that they have eased the passage of traffic from the A10 round Rush Green in the mornings, the lights at the foot of London Road cannot cope with the increased flow, and so even pre 8AM the A414 is tailed almost back alomost a mile from the Fire Station back to Rush Green. Fantastic - bypass that actually bypasses the town, anyone?
Reply ID 19295
Please discuss the issue of a Hertford Bypass [url="http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=893"]here[/url]
Reply ID 19307
Traffic lights were on this morning at 5.45am (today been a bank holiday). I had to wait for a good minute or so at red with no other traffic about. Utterly pointless..
Reply ID 19308
quote:and 11:30 last night, pull off the A10 north, me and another car sit at the red light while no traffic is on the roundabout. These lights do not have motion sensors on them do they?
Originally posted by Sargasso
Traffic lights were on this morning at 5.45am (today been a bank holiday). I had to wait for a good minute or so at red with no other traffic about. Utterly pointless..
Reply ID 19333
quote:Sensors? What on earth do you expect for 800 grand? [V]
These lights do not have motion sensors on them do they?
Reply ID 20678
I have to say I've seen a big improvement on the roundabout recently, though it still can be quite difficult if your wanting to come back on the roundabout after getting petrol at the BP garage. What worries me is the part of the roundabout towards Gallows Hill where you have to pull off to the left, I dont like it personally, some people sit in the wrong lane or pull over really late.