Topic ID 1938
Do you do it? Do you like it? Where do you go(on road off road)? Is there anything you would like? Guided rides, better facilities etc?
Reply ID 24758
Are you in a position of influence regarding cycling in the area?
Reply ID 24762
Rather than posting a thread asking for people's views, why not give us your own so we know the point you're trying to make.
Reply ID 24763
I've recently bought a bike to get out and about in Hertford. Cole Green Way seems a nice ride, nothing too intense. I ride into town as often as poss rather than drive. The information office in Hertford was useless with regards to cycling routes and info. So a source for this would be nice. The cycle paths seem ok on the roads although at some points I use the pavement instead as its a lot safer.
Reply ID 24770
quote:...a lot safer for the cyclist, that is.
Originally posted by gregb
I've recently bought a bike to get out and about in Hertford. Cole Green Way seems a nice ride, nothing too intense. I ride into town as often as poss rather than drive. The information office in Hertford was useless with regards to cycling routes and info. So a source for this would be nice. The cycle paths seem ok on the roads although at some points I use the pavement instead as its a lot safer.
Reply ID 24778
Some nice easy routes up beyond Bengeo towards Chapmore End, Stapleford, Waterford - a loop through these villages will be about 10 miles. A few hills but nothing intense. Also a little further west is Bramfield Woods which has plenty of routes through. The country which surrounds the whole of Hertford is only 10 minutes away from anywhere in the town and is stunning. Or head down the Lea towards London - pretty easy run of 15 miles from Hertford and you'll hit the M25 (its a flyover - nothing but a good guide). Another 15 miles or so and you'll be in central London. As for changes - yes I will mention the no cycling rule through Woodhall Park. One part of my regular route goes past here and I feel like I'm not welcome even though I'm on the road!
Reply ID 24786
quote:I recently picked up a leaflet from Hartham Pool which illustrated cycle routes and rides in East Herts. I can't remember who published it - and it's been recycled now! But it's likely to be EHDC leisure dept.
Originally posted by gregb The information office in Hertford was useless with regards to cycling routes and info. So a source for this would be nice.
Reply ID 24790
quote:If there's a lorry up my a55 and the pavement is clear then it's safer all round. I'm not the type to go bombing through pedestrian areas and knocking people over but if the pavements free and there's traffic behind me then I may use the pavement. Just using a bit of common sense. I wish all cyclists did. nora batty/Sargasso, thanks for the info. Will check it all out. Admin, maybe if these maps/routes are available in pdf form they would be good additions to the Cycling section.
Originally posted by shuntquote:...a lot safer for the cyclist, that is.
Originally posted by gregb
I've recently bought a bike to get out and about in Hertford. Cole Green Way seems a nice ride, nothing too intense. I ride into town as often as poss rather than drive. The information office in Hertford was useless with regards to cycling routes and info. So a source for this would be nice. The cycle paths seem ok on the roads although at some points I use the pavement instead as its a lot safer.
Reply ID 24796
Hey, I know what it's like out there, (I cycle too) but I've been knocked down more than once stepping out of my front gate by cyclists who presumably think they are "using common sense", causing injury to both. Now I peer round the corner before exiting onto the pavement. I shouldn't have to do that.
Reply ID 24797
quote:I shouldn't be forced off the road by road-rage induced lorry drivers but I am. Better not stray off topic - this is being discusses in the Fore Street post - http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=1858
Originally posted by shunt
Hey, I know what it's like out there, (I cycle too) but I've been knocked down more than once stepping out of my front gate by cyclists who presumably think they are "using common sense", causing injury to both. Now I peer round the corner before exiting onto the pavement. I shouldn't have to do that.
Reply ID 24843
http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/community/cycling.htm Lots of info about cycling locally, including the leaflets that Nora refers to. Can I just hijack this thread to respond to some points about cycling in the other threads (e.g. about cyclists mis-using Fore Street). It is of course wrong to disobey the highway code but I just want to try to explain why some cyclists do all those things that wind up drivers (jump red lights, weave in and out of traffic, use the pavement). The car is king in Herts - don't we have the second-highest number of per-capita cars in the UK? And more three-car households than any other county in the UK? We all know how ludicrous the congestion is around here, how difficult it is to park, how busy and dangerous the roads are, how bad the pollution is. Yet those of us who make an effort to use our bikes for local journeys seem to get no courtesy and support from car users and instead have to put up with what is often an unpleasant and dangerous experience. For every cyclist jumping a red light, I can show you a driver sailing across a roundabout with no regard for the cyclist on the roundabout who has to break and swerve to avoid a collision. Yes, cyclists do sometimes use the pavements - I note Mayor Ken is bringing in a system of fines to counter this, and rightly so - but I've lost count of the number of cars that have overtaken me on my bike and dangerously cut me up so I've had to take avoiding action. The point I'm trying to make is that cyclists do misbehave but when you consider what they have to put up with from impatient and ignorant drivers who seem to grudge sharing the road with a healthy, green form of transport, maybe you should cut them a bit of slack.
Reply ID 24853
Rachel I could not have said that better myself!! I had to take my bike into Marshalls on Saturday and I am not a fan of riding on the road with a car up my backside, which is generally the case in Hertford Town Centre. I opted to walk on the path with my bike (not ride). The filthy looks I got from angry pedestrian because I was taking up so much space on the path even though I was the one getting out of peoples way and trying to be polite about it! It really is a no win situation, if you are on the road then the cars get the hump with you if you are on the path the pedestrians get the hump (rightly so, I agree). But what are we supposed to do, put up with it? I think we need more cycle lanes in Hertford, especially around the town centre area to allow cyclists to get in and out of the town more safetly. It might even solve the parking troubles in the town if more people felt safe to use there cycles?
Reply ID 24867
quote:..but I know my views[;)] You do come across as a little rude to me. I think I can post what I want to, not what you want to.
Originally posted by Steve
Rather than posting a thread asking for people's views, why not give us your own so we know the point you're trying to make.
Reply ID 24870
quote:I ride with a local club and we are sometimes asked to give input to local cycle ventures. The latest ones being more clear signs for the bike lanes on North Road and a new cycle lane on the A414 heading out west on the section near Willowmead out to Hertingfordbury. I personally ride on road mainly and a bit of mountain biking. I do a bit of racing too. I just consider that there are a lot of people out there riding that may want to do something as a group. I think people can be intimidated by joining a cycle club as they think they all ride at 30mph everywhere and they couldn't keep up, which isn't true. I was just wondering if people would be interested in doing some easy rides?
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Are you in a position of influence regarding cycling in the area?
Reply ID 24871
I think what Steve was suggesting was that sometimes you have to throw in a catalyst to get the conversation going. For this reason, I often play devil's advocate by throwing in deliberately contentious points (not always representative of my own) to stimulate replies. Sometimes it takes a push. Talking of pushing, I know what you mean about pushing a bike on the pavement. People get jumpy, assuming you are going to catch their legs with pedals etc. Strangely, gigantic baby buggies are not treated with the same suspicion. I also agree with the cycle route theory, though not everywhere. Fore Street is prime, because of it's one way system and being the main route to Simon Balle School.
Reply ID 24875
Does anyone know why the Grass Track Racing at Hartham was cancelled this year?
Reply ID 24877
Grass track racing? I missed that one. Do bring it back, whoever is responsible for this inspired use of public areas. My girlfriend's lads would love it and I'd certainly turn out to watch!
Reply ID 24879
Useful link: http://www.hertford.net/events/grass_track_racing.asp
Reply ID 24881
Great stuff! Does anybody remember the thrills and spills of the fabulous Hertford streetrace too? That was always a fun day and major social event. Where did that go? Current street design and surfaces might make it dangerous and difficult today, but what an event it was!
Reply ID 24884
I did a nice circuit recently...from hertford go out through Bramfield to Datchworth. Turn right and head towards Green End. Down to Dane End and then back to Hertford via Stoneyhills (I think it's called). About 18 miles.
Reply ID 24894
quote:http://www.londoncyclesport.com/news_2006/east_grass.html
Originally posted by Steve
Does anyone know why the Grass Track Racing at Hartham was cancelled this year?
Reply ID 24926
Another great route is through the woods near Broxbourne directly to the south of Hertford. About 2 miles of great down hill tracks.
Reply ID 25274
So is anyone interested in group rides?
Reply ID 25289
quote:yup, i would be! not very fit tho! my last ride was about 15 miles and it exhausted me!
Originally posted by bikeman
So is anyone interested in group rides?
Reply ID 25297
Where are these group rides going to be? I cannot see too many pedestrians being happy about being confronted by a large group of bycycles on a small public foot path even if it is part of a national cycle way? If they are on the road count me out, I am not a fan of fighting with the traffic.
Reply ID 25327
quote:Have you met the Hartham Commoners? They are a group runners and cyclists who meet up every Wednesday, all year round and run and cycle around the area and end up at the pub after their exhaustive outings. They are having their AGM at The White Horse, Hertford next Wednesday evening and then the winter season starts the following week. They will be at The Black Horse every Wednesday after about 9.30pm from then on. If you are interested in meeting them, please email me and I will let you have a name and a contact telephone number.
Originally posted by bikeman
So is anyone interested in group rides?
Reply ID 25585
quote:I suppose I am looking at the mountain bikers that already do a bit of riding and might want to go Bramfield Woods etc along Bridal Paths.
Originally posted by Nicky
Where are these group rides going to be? I cannot see too many pedestrians being happy about being confronted by a large group of bycycles on a small public foot path even if it is part of a national cycle way? If they are on the road count me out, I am not a fan of fighting with the traffic.
Reply ID 25652
I agree that it would be fun, I am a mountain bike rider and enjoy riding away from the traffic. But how many people are you looking to get for this? I cannot see pedestrians out for a leisurly stroll being happy about 15-20 bikes racing towards them? You may have to consider getting permission to close said path off?
Reply ID 25674
quote:Why? If it were the other way round and I were to see an anorak of ramblers marching towards me, I'd be pretty intimidated, be it on my bike or on foot but I wouldn't have expected them to close the routes they were walking down.
Originally posted by Nicky
You may have to consider getting permission to close said path off?
Reply ID 25694
Ha Ha! funny you should mention ramblers, I got a whole bunch of them starting on me about year back down cole green way. I agree with you Paul, but I still think it might cause havoc! Don't get me wrong I am not trying to spoil the fun, in fact I am interested in joining in. The problem is I am so used to pedestrians getting angry with me that I am now very wary!!
Reply ID 25701
quote:Let them get angry - you are doing nothing wrong.
Originally posted by Nicky
Ha Ha! funny you should mention ramblers, I got a whole bunch of them starting on me about year back down cole green way. I agree with you Paul, but I still think it might cause havoc! Don't get me wrong I am not trying to spoil the fun, in fact I am interested in joining in. The problem is I am so used to pedestrians getting angry with me that I am now very wary!!
Reply ID 25720
i suspect this guy would be interested too! http://www.acraggs.freeserve.co.uk/
Reply ID 25785
quote:In my experience with group rides I have never really seen more than 10. I personally don't get problems with pedestrians or horse riders off road, I usually slow down smile and say hello.
Originally posted by Nicky
I agree that it would be fun, I am a mountain bike rider and enjoy riding away from the traffic. But how many people are you looking to get for this? I cannot see pedestrians out for a leisurly stroll being happy about 15-20 bikes racing towards them? You may have to consider getting permission to close said path off?
Reply ID 25786
so do I! I smile and say hello/good morning to everyone I see every morning and every evening. I slow down/stop for children/dogs/pedestrians and even other cyclists. But I have still had ignorant people getting the hump with me. With the ramblers me and my otherhalf were behind them, I rang my bell about 3 times and they either did not hear me or ignored me. Then I said excuse me at least another 3 times, eventually one of them turned around and said "don't they have bells on bikes anymore". It took us an age to get past them and another few snide remarks along the way. I have also been told by one guy to "get on the road the tow path is not for cyclists". Funny thing is they don't seem to pick on my partner at all.......I think maybe being female people are more confident at having a dig, maybe they think I am less likely to retaliate and they are probably right.
Reply ID 25787
anyway, lets give it a go then. When and where are we meeting?
Reply ID 25832
Personally I am not up for the group stuff as I always take a camera with me and photgraph the wildlife on my runs. A good run is across Hartham then off towards Ware by the river, through Ware to Stanstead Abbotts on the tow path, then up the high street, and along the lanes back to Ware, up Ware high street and across to Warren Park, through to Bengeo, round to the church and down the path back to Hartham. A good mix of level and hilly cycling. But for me only worth doing during spring, summer, and autumn as the views and wildlife are at their best. Alternatively, across to Bengeo then Sacombe lane to the A602 and back along the Hertford Road B158? Winter time it's just around Hertford and Ware via the river[:)]
Reply ID 25835
Sounds like me, flyer1 - cycling is never much good as a form of exercise for me as I end up stopping every five minutes to pull the binoculars out and have a butchers at something. I would agree, though - the circular route down the river to Stansted Abbots (with the obligatory stop at Amwell Quarry, of course) and back through the lanes around Ware and Bengeo is a lovely ride. Around the Sacombe Road area is lovely too, especially if a pint at the Woodman in Chapmore End can be incorporated... [:)]
Reply ID 26023
Yes it is personal choice. I suppose my target audience is people who don't want to ride like the wind, but want to try something more than the tow-path and get into our beautiful countryside a bit more. I think that an hour to an hour and a half will be fine at a gentle pace.
Reply ID 26025
quote:He is right Nicky. You need a licence to cycle along a tow path and one of the stipulations is that you dismount and give priority to pedestrians. You would be amazed at the rules and regulations that come with a licence.
Originally posted by Nicky
I have also been told by one guy to "get on the road the tow path is not for cyclists".
Reply ID 26042
http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/waterways/waterways_code/for_cyclists.html The towpath is for cyclists; strictly speaking they should have a permit although in 20 years of cycling down the Lea Valley between Hertford and London and passing loads of wardens zipping along on their mopeds, I have never been asked for mine. Both Sustrans and British Waterways expect cyclists to give pedestrians right of way but I have never heard that we have to dismount for pedestrians on the towpath. Where did you read that, Rooster?
Reply ID 26047
quote:There was letter in the Mercury from a guy involved in the permit/licence issuing detailing the regulations, about three/four weeks ago. I suppose that dismounting to give priority to pedestrians and giving way to them amounts to the same thing, otherwise you would be in the water or the hedge surely, if the towpath is narrow!!
Originally posted by Rachel
http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/waterways/waterways_code/for_cyclists.html The towpath is for cyclists; strictly speaking they should have a permit although in 20 years of cycling down the Lea Valley between Hertford and London and passing loads of wardens zipping along on their mopeds, I have never been asked for mine. Both Sustrans and British Waterways expect cyclists to give pedestrians right of way but I have never heard that we have to dismount for pedestrians on the towpath. Where did you read that, Rooster?
Reply ID 26086
I have a licence, and if the situation occurs (which it does rarely) where I meet a pedestrian at a point where a cycle is not able to pass, then I do dismount or at least stop and let the pedestrian go first.
Reply ID 26201
quote:
Originally posted by Roosterquote:Have you met the Hartham Commoners? They are a group runners and cyclists who meet up every Wednesday, all year round and run and cycle around the area and end up at the pub after their exhaustive outings. They are having their AGM at The White Horse, Hertford next Wednesday evening and then the winter season starts the following week. They will be at The Black Horse every Wednesday after about 9.30pm from then on. If you are interested in meeting them, please email me and I will let you have a name and a contact telephone number.
Originally posted by bikeman
So is anyone interested in group rides?
Reply ID 26203
Thanks for the write up Rooster, we'll be in to see you on tomorrow. We are running a winter off road programme this year. Expect lots of mud Rooster!!!!
Reply ID 26204
quote:Have you a grid reference or link to a map for the quarry?
Originally posted by Joby
I would agree, though - the circular route down the river to Stansted Abbots (with the obligatory stop at Amwell Quarry, of course)
Reply ID 26213
quote:TL378128. It's right on the Lea at Great Amwell, you can't miss it.
Originally posted by Sargassoquote:Have you a grid reference or link to a map for the quarry?
Originally posted by Joby
I would agree, though - the circular route down the river to Stansted Abbots (with the obligatory stop at Amwell Quarry, of course)
Reply ID 26908
Hi Sorry I have been a little busy recently. If anyone would like to go for a ride up to Bramfield Woods, we can meet by the bottle banks in the car park near Hartham Leisure Centre. I am free this Saturday 30th Sept at 3pm. If you can make it please let me know. I don't want to hang around like a charlie.
Reply ID 26915
doh! can't make Sat! Sunday free tho!
Reply ID 26929
I'm busy Sunday race in the morning then family in the afternoon. If anyone wants to come and watch the racing it will be at Cole Green 10am. I can do morning of Sunday 8th Oct, any good?
Reply ID 27005
busy this saturday morning sorry.....will need a bit more notice!
Reply ID 27018
Can you both make Sunday 8th Oct in the Morning?
Reply ID 27029
I'm always up for cycling around here. I generally use a few routes south of Hertford, primarily off-road with the occasional bit of road to link the tracks - 1 1/2 to 2 hours depending on pace....or longer if all the pubs are open! Going North can be a pain - I haven't yet worked out how to get from Bengeo to Sacombe without becoming roadkill under a lorry.... I can't make this weekend as I'm heading home to beautiful Yorkshire to cycle in the Moors - but following weekend sounds good to me...or any evenings before it get's too dark.
Reply ID 27034
quote:yup mail me if you like from the profile, it'll probably be easier. maybe you can enable email from your profile..
Originally posted by bikeman
Can you both make Sunday 8th Oct in the Morning?
Reply ID 27061
OK I have enabled my email. I think it's easier to sort things out here so everyone knows who's coming but feel free to email me if you wish. Lets stay with the Morning of Sunday the 8th and see if anyone else can make it too.
Reply ID 27128
ok sounds good to me, where are we thinking for a meeting place?
Reply ID 27131
quote:By the bottle banks in the car park near Hartham Leisure Centre.
Originally posted by codek2
ok sounds good to me, where are we thinking for a meeting place?
Reply ID 27484
OK sunday 8th Oct 10am in the car park by the bottle banks near Hartham Leisure Centre. Ride will be between 1 and 1.5 hours depending on pace.
Reply ID 27495
Cycle routes through town would be great, as would compulsory helmet wearing (I'm amazed how many children are wearing them while their parents are not). Clear maps that are grated according to ability - there's nothing worse than picking a brand new route and finding that you're so unfit that most of the time is spent pushing the bike uphill. Groups are a good idea and would say that they need to be graded - even including one for "not been on a bike since I was 17, got my driving license and oh-my-god I can't see my feet any more!" to which I would probably sign up to!
Reply ID 27572
Mr P I think we do not have enough interest yet to split things it to grades. The plan is to have a ride on Sunday and ride as fast as the slowest rider. If you are not too fit I'd recommend riding along the towpath as this is flat. The helmet debate is something that will go on forever, but I suggest that the rider makes his/her own choice and is not forced to wear a helmet if they don't want to. There are many strong arguments for and against! There are ride guides available in WHSmith's that are graded. You may also be able to pick something up from the tourist information.
Reply ID 27612
It was good to see a new member of the Hartham Commoners last night. Andy120t was welcomed into the group, and I do believe he enjoyed himself.
Reply ID 27674
OK so anyone else who wants to come along its Sunday 8th Oct(tomorrow) 10 am by the bottle bank in the car park near Hartham Leisure Centre
Reply ID 27718
Great morning, hope you enjoyed it. 5 of us went out and did about 10-12 miles. We had fun and adventures, deep mud, run away horses and it's fallen rider, and back in time for lunch. We will be doing it again in a couple of weeks, watch this space!
Reply ID 27765
Many thanks to bikerman for hosting a great mornings ride on Sunday - highly recommended !
Reply ID 27769
quote:Would it be OK for a 10 yr old to come along too? (Accompanied by parent, of course).
Originally posted by bikeman
Great morning, hope you enjoyed it. 5 of us went out and did about 10-12 miles. We had fun and adventures, deep mud, run away horses and it's fallen rider, and back in time for lunch. We will be doing it again in a couple of weeks, watch this space!
Reply ID 27919
OK glad to hear you enjoyed it. I'll let you know when I plan to do the next one.
Reply ID 27920
quote:Yes, I assume your 10 year old can ride well enough to cover 10 miles?
Originally posted by nora batty
quote:Would it be OK for a 10 yr old to come along too? (Accompanied by parent, of course).
Originally posted by bikeman
Great morning, hope you enjoyed it. 5 of us went out and did about 10-12 miles. We had fun and adventures, deep mud, run away horses and it's fallen rider, and back in time for lunch. We will be doing it again in a couple of weeks, watch this space!
Reply ID 27939
Yes - he recently did 21 miles of The Tissington Trail and wasn't even out of breath!
Reply ID 28042
I'll be up for this. Will keep an eye on this thread......
Reply ID 28044
quote:What about you[;)]
Originally posted by nora batty
Yes - he recently did 21 miles of The Tissington Trail and wasn't even out of breath!
Reply ID 28045
quote:Good. The more the merrier.
Originally posted by Sargasso
I'll be up for this. Will keep an eye on this thread......
Reply ID 28046
quote:[xx(]
Originally posted by bikeman What about you[;)]
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quote:A bit of fresh air and countryside will change that to[8D]
Originally posted by nora battyquote:[xx(]
Originally posted by bikeman What about you[;)]
Reply ID 28064
I just wish I had some where to store a bike as I would love to come and join you all. But with no place to store one I can't [:(]
Reply ID 28241
Nora - just to play Devil's Advocate - what is his pace for 10 or 20 miles off road?...and thinking about all my mud-cycles, can he swear like a trooper!?
Reply ID 28697
OK next ride Sunday 5th November 9:30am. Who wants to join?
Reply ID 28698
quote:I'm not around that day [:(]
Originally posted by bikeman
OK next ride Sunday 5th November 9:30am. Who wants to join?
Reply ID 28699
quote:Just noticed this Andy... I've no idea about his pace. I've never cycled off-road or off-trail with him. If he does swear like a trooper, he hasn't done so in front of his mother! He has cycled off-road with friends of ours and with Harlow Outdoors Centre. I thought Bikeman's rides would be mostly road and trail? My bike is not a mountain bike, so would that rule me out? It's a hybrid touring bike.
Originally posted by andy120t
Nora - just to play Devil's Advocate - what is his pace for 10 or 20 miles off road?...and thinking about all my mud-cycles, can he swear like a trooper!?
Reply ID 28713
a hybrid bike would be fine - yes it's all bridleways, very smooth, bit muddy in the odd place but nothing a 10yr old wont relish! So whens the next ride then?
Reply ID 28827
Just to reiterate: OK next ride Sunday 5th November 9:30am. Who wants to join?
Reply ID 28833
Pencil me in for the 5th Bikeman
Reply ID 28862
quote:Will do. [8D] Depending on who comes I may make the route a touch more challenging.[:D]
Originally posted by Frenchie
Pencil me in for the 5th Bikeman
Reply ID 28895
i'm in at the moment..
Reply ID 28906
quote:[:D]Good. You will be able to handle something slightly more demanding. Anyone else?
Originally posted by codek2
i'm in at the moment..
Reply ID 28911
You could try the other way and if you are feeling energetic, ride to Canary Wharf, the towpath is virtually empty, apart from fishermen, and its a nice scenic route. I tried Broxbourne to Bishops Stortford but the towpath was closed at Roydon. The towpath there was very narrow and a bit slippery.
Reply ID 28912
Yes I would like to come. Where will you be meeting?
Reply ID 28915
Meeting point: Near Bottle Bank in the car park at Hartham Common
Reply ID 28921
What if its raining (I dont have a problem with rain!)will this still be going ahead?
Reply ID 28931
quote:Woo now that depends on how bad the rain is. I suggest closer to the time I'll check the forecast and make a decision
Originally posted by Biker
What if its raining (I dont have a problem with rain!)will this still be going ahead?
Reply ID 29421
so are we on? how's numbers looking. it'll defo be dry, but probably Mighty cold! ( be very picturesque i imagine! ) 9.30 was it?...
Reply ID 29422
I can't now make it on Sunday, i will be cycling but around Rutland water near the outlaws. Have a good ride.
Reply ID 29427
quote:Yes still on. Looks like you me and biker currently unless anyone else wants to join. The route will incorporate some quite muddy sections as there has been a lot of rain recently, so don't wear you Sunday best shoes. Waterproof socks may be useful but not necessary. Yes 9:30, the first part is up the Cole Green way to Letty Green so maybe you want to meet us on route or will you come to the bottlebank at Hartham?
Originally posted by codek2
so are we on? how's numbers looking. it'll defo be dry, but probably Mighty cold! ( be very picturesque i imagine! ) 9.30 was it?...
Reply ID 29462
May make this, how long would this ride be do you think - home for lunch?
Reply ID 29474
quote:Ah excellent :) yes i'll meet you at the railway bridge where it crosses the letty green road near the cowpers? what time do you reckon you'll get there, about 9:50? Can you email me your mobile no incase no one turns up?
Originally posted by bikemanquote:Yes still on. Looks like you me and biker currently unless anyone else wants to join. The route will incorporate some quite muddy sections as there has been a lot of rain recently, so don't wear you Sunday best shoes. Waterproof socks may be useful but not necessary. Yes 9:30, the first part is up the Cole Green way to Letty Green so maybe you want to meet us on route or will you come to the bottlebank at Hartham?
Originally posted by codek2
so are we on? how's numbers looking. it'll defo be dry, but probably Mighty cold! ( be very picturesque i imagine! ) 9.30 was it?...
Reply ID 29604
quote:Yes home about 11:30 ish.
Originally posted by Sargasso
May make this, how long would this ride be do you think - home for lunch?
Reply ID 29663
excellent! bah! whats happened to the gorgeous sunny but frosty mornings!!?!?!?
Reply ID 29670
I had everyitention of coming this morning but my bike let me down. I discovered (to every cyclists nightmare) a puncture. There was just no way i was going to be able to fix it in time.... so i will have to wait until the next venue - sorry about that
Reply ID 29682
Beautiful weather and a good ride. Only myself and codek2. See you all next time.
Reply ID 29693
yup excellent weather, and enjoyable ride too with some very nice down hill tracks coming out of little berkhamstead! So many other riders out and about as well!
Reply ID 29801
Biker, are you me ?!......exactly the same problem. all good intentions and then back tyre doom. next time guys
Reply ID 30489
Right Sunday 19th Nov 10:00am. Bramfield - Datchworth - Watton - Bramfield depending on what time we get there we may do a bit more. Approx 1:30 hrs may extend a touch depending on the group. Get your punctures fixed check your bike the night before. Who's on for it? This is mainly off road.
Reply ID 30580
i can only say maybe at the moment, can confirm later on in the week..
Reply ID 30677
Anybody else? Biker Sargasso Frenchie?
Reply ID 30751
Sorry this sunday is no good for me. Have a good one
Reply ID 30756
Yes I am up for it - is the meet at Hartham?
Reply ID 30767
i'm out too. see you all next time!
Reply ID 30773
Bikeman - i too am unavailable but i will be back !
Reply ID 30800
quote:Looks like it's just you and me then. Forecast is for rain, should make things interesting. Yes Hartham Common near the bottle bank 10am.
Originally posted by Biker
Yes I am up for it - is the meet at Hartham?
Reply ID 30850
Bikeman, with many regrets I am not going to be able to make tomorrow morning's ride. As you can see from another post, some nice member of the public (not) tried to shove me in the river this afternoon for no reason. The police are coming to see me sometime tomorrow morning. With many thanks to the police they have been really helpful.
Reply ID 30857
Understood. Hope you are OK. There was a similar report about the same sort thing in the Mercury yesterday!
Reply ID 31300
Right Sunday 3rd Dec 10:00am. Bramfield - Datchworth - Watton - Bramfield depending on what time we get there we may do a bit more. Approx 1:30 hrs may extend a touch depending on the group. Get your punctures fixed check your bike the night before. Who's on for it? This is mainly off road
Reply ID 31320
OK, I'm a 'tentative' for the 3rd
Reply ID 31337
Me too.
Reply ID 31549
Is anyone a definate yet?
Reply ID 31683
Ride cancelled due to no interest.
Reply ID 31706
it's a bad time of year for organising anything groupwise i think - people are so busy at this time of year! also; appalling weather it looks like for sunday! Of course in the new year we can capitalise on everyone's resolutions to be good and exercise... :)
Reply ID 31708
Sorry Bikeman I was waiting to hear on something else. If its under a couple of hours and providing its not gale force winds then I am up for it. (Rain I dont mind)
Reply ID 31751
quote:Hi Sorry can't make it now, other plans. Cheers, Bikeman
Originally posted by Biker
Sorry Bikeman I was waiting to hear on something else. If its under a couple of hours and providing its not gale force winds then I am up for it. (Rain I dont mind)
Reply ID 31754
quote:This is not good. I have just pumped my bleeding tyres up in the rain and now this meesage!! What a waste of time!
Originally posted by bikemanquote:Hi Sorry can't make it now, other plans. Cheers, Bikeman
Originally posted by Biker
Sorry Bikeman I was waiting to hear on something else. If its under a couple of hours and providing its not gale force winds then I am up for it. (Rain I dont mind)
Reply ID 31759
Ah well next time then.
Reply ID 31761
quote:I had said it was cancelled. Always useful to have air in your tyres.
Originally posted by James007quote:This is not good. I have just pumped my bleeding tyres up in the rain and now this meesage!! What a waste of time!
Originally posted by bikemanquote:Hi Sorry can't make it now, other plans. Cheers, Bikeman
Originally posted by Biker
Sorry Bikeman I was waiting to hear on something else. If its under a couple of hours and providing its not gale force winds then I am up for it. (Rain I dont mind)
Reply ID 31765
I love cycling, but I wouldn't dream of giving up a Sunday morning to lead a mixed-ability group of strangers around the countryside near Hertford. I think Bikeman should be congratulated for his contribution to the community and I hope he is not put off by the difficulties of getting everyone together if he continues to organise these occasional rides. [8D][^]
Reply ID 31784
quote:Agreed!
Originally posted by Rachel
.. I think Bikeman should be congratulated for his contribution to the community and I hope he is not put off by the difficulties of getting everyone together if he continues to organise these occasional rides. [8D][^]
Reply ID 33797
So does anyone fancy a ride on the 21st? IF not when are people about? 9.30am?
Reply ID 34068
Would love to do it but am out of the country. Will definitely do the next one though. Yes and congrats to Bikeman for organising this.
Reply ID 35210
Hi I am a bit tied up doing pre season training at the mo. If anyone fancies 50 miles at 16+mph on road bikes sunday mornings please feel free to join. I think other people ie not me or codek2 need to say when they are available too as this will make it easier to plan. I have a nice ride out beyond Watton and back planned but need to make sure timing fits in with all.
Reply ID 35261
Just give me a week's notice - I am not up for the 16+mph! I need to get back in the swing of it.
Reply ID 35300
quote:I go out every Sunday 9:30 from bottlebank Hartham common let me know when you are coming so we don't leave without you normally back by 12:30 - 1 ish
Originally posted by Biker
Just give me a week's notice - I am not up for the 16+mph! I need to get back in the swing of it.
Reply ID 35362
Ok will do thanks.
Reply ID 35964
Hello all I'n new to Bengeo, just in the process of moving (taking forever, grrr) and I just discovered this forum. Bikeman - the rides you've organised sound ace, is there any chance you'll be organising some more any time soon, would definitely be up for it. (Easy pace ones, I think 50m at 16mph would break me!!)
Reply ID 35981
I'm still up for these but decided my bike isn't up for 50 miles in one go. I'm planning to upgrade it and with spring coming up, I'll be watching this thread.
Reply ID 35986
Bikeman - you say you leave every Sunday morning at 9:30 - is this the gentle pace or the 50 miler?
Reply ID 35995
What route do you take on a 50 mile ride? I moved to Bengeo last summer but my bike is still stuck in Enfield. Once i've got it up to Bengeo I'll defo. be up for riding somewhere. I usually spend my days in Epping Forest Mountain Biking and seeing as I've moved further away I'm looking for find some good riding around Hertford. I'm sure there is loads as I always see people out on their mountain bikes.
Reply ID 36007
I run (winter) & cycle the rest of the year in and around Bramfield Woods. A good way of getting over there from Bengeo, mostly off road is to head down Sacombe Road, take any path down through Waterford Heath to Bullsmill. Then take the footpath after the farm that runs alongside the River Beane towards Stapleford Church. If anyone is walking towards you, it's best to dismount, as you are not supposed to cycle this bit. When you get to the Church, turn left onto the road & over the bridge. At the main road, cross & head up a steep path almost immediately opposite (gets very muddy here). The footpath signs disappear, but if you keep heading upwards, you should pick them up again. Follow the path to the main road (house on corner) & stay on road for about 800 metres with Row Wood on either side. (If you are quiet you will see a herd of about 20 deer in there sometimes). Take the first path on right & follow this up to Sally Rainbow's Dell & you are now in Bramfield Woods. When I ran up this stretch on Sunday, there was a puddle about a foot deep (great fun) & the mud was intense. You've got to be really keen to cycle this stretch in winter, but half the fun of mountain biking is finding new routes & overcoming obstacles, and their are plenty of alternative navigable paths in these woods. As I said earlier, I don't venture over here on 2 wheels until springtime, when the ground is much firmer, but it's a great place to go for all grades of rides & you don't have to wait for the weekend, you can get over there & back in about 1-2 hours in the evening once the clocks have gone forward. When you've got your bearings, you'll discover lots of other great routes from the Woods via Tewin, Burnham Green & Digswell too.
Reply ID 36035
quote:'When you've got your bearings,' is a moot point. [:)] It's like the bloody Blair Witch Project in there! [B)] I've tried to get back to Hertford from Watton through Bramfield Woods loads of times and always get horribly lost, usually ending up back where I started! [:I]
Originally posted by Muddy
I run (winter) & cycle the rest of the year in and around Bramfield Woods. ... When you've got your bearings, you'll discover lots of other great routes from the Woods via Tewin, Burnham Green & Digswell too.
Reply ID 36037
Come on Rachel, it's not that bad. As long as you are clear of the trees, Bengeo Water Tower can be seen from many places near Bramfield, so you can work out the general direction home following that. If you ever get lost in Bramfield Woods, just head for the former roadway (Perrywood Lane) where it crosses Back Lane. This used to be a shortcut from Bramfield Road (where the car park has been gated off) all the way down to Watton at Stone. Thankfully, the only motor vehicles you will see on it now are the occasional tractor & the odd rogue motor-biker. Head down the hill, passing open countryside on your right & Hazeldell Wood on your left (if you go on the parallel path called Long Walk, you've got a 75% chance of seeing a herd of deer in here too). Keep going downhill & over a stony bit to Perrywood Farm. After the farm buildings, take the first footpath on the right by the house. This leads virtually straight to Gobions Farm & the main road. Turn left onto the main road & it's all downhill to Stapleford. If you can afford to shell out about £10 for the Ordnance Survey County Street Atlas for Herts (they sell it in W.H Smiths), it will help you locate all the available bridlepaths & footpaths, though it's probably a bit bulky to take out with you when you are riding your bike.
Reply ID 36068
Hi All In answer to a few of the questions. Biker the Sunday rides I have been doing have been fast ones. I will however be doing my first race this Sunday, the North Road Hardriders, which covers the area between Brookmans Park and Hertford, it comes down Brickendon Lane then turns left along the Essendon Road. So if you want to see some of the countries top time trialers then from about 9am to 10:30 they will be coming by, note Sean Yates ex Tour de France Yellow jersey holder is racing. I may be able to fit an off road ride in on Sunday 4th March if people are interested. Please post so I know if there is interest ASAP. It will be about an hour and half to 2 hours up to Watton and back via Bramfield Woods. Lets see if we can get a group going regularly even if I can't make it all the time. Regards, Bikeman.
Reply ID 36094
Hi all Bikeman - hope that your race went well this morning - let us know how you did! I haven't actually moved to Bengeo yet, but I should still be able to make the 4th (just need to persuade my dad to lend me his car!) What sort of level would the riding be - I might be able to persuade my dad to come along...
Reply ID 36105
quote:Yes I went OK this morning not sure of my actual position yet. The rides tend to be relatively gentle. I'll probably have my son on the back and he doesn't like it too bumpy, which tends to happen when I go fast. It's just social pace.
Originally posted by Beth
Hi all Bikeman - hope that your race went well this morning - let us know how you did! I haven't actually moved to Bengeo yet, but I should still be able to make the 4th (just need to persuade my dad to lend me his car!) What sort of level would the riding be - I might be able to persuade my dad to come along...
Reply ID 36249
Hi Anyone else fancy a ride Sunday ? Bikeman.
Reply ID 36252
Not till you've bought me dinner first.
Reply ID 36259
quote:Your obvoiusly an old romantic type.
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
Not till you've bought me dinner first.
Reply ID 36336
quote:Thanks for that Muddy. I'm going to get out next weekend and check it out. I live quite near the Sacombe Rd so I should be able to find the woods, eventually. Getting lost Mountain Biking is half the fun, so long as you've not been out for 5hrs already though.
Originally posted by Muddy
I run (winter) & cycle the rest of the year in and around Bramfield Woods. A good way of getting over there from Bengeo, mostly off road is to head down Sacombe Road, take any path down through Waterford Heath to Bullsmill. Then take the footpath after the farm that runs alongside the River Beane towards Stapleford Church. If anyone is walking towards you, it's best to dismount, as you are not supposed to cycle this bit. When you get to the Church, turn left onto the road & over the bridge. At the main road, cross & head up a steep path almost immediately opposite (gets very muddy here). The footpath signs disappear, but if you keep heading upwards, you should pick them up again. Follow the path to the main road (house on corner) & stay on road for about 800 metres with Row Wood on either side. (If you are quiet you will see a herd of about 20 deer in there sometimes). Take the first path on right & follow this up to Sally Rainbow's Dell & you are now in Bramfield Woods. When I ran up this stretch on Sunday, there was a puddle about a foot deep (great fun) & the mud was intense. You've got to be really keen to cycle this stretch in winter, but half the fun of mountain biking is finding new routes & overcoming obstacles, and their are plenty of alternative navigable paths in these woods. As I said earlier, I don't venture over here on 2 wheels until springtime, when the ground is much firmer, but it's a great place to go for all grades of rides & you don't have to wait for the weekend, you can get over there & back in about 1-2 hours in the evening once the clocks have gone forward. When you've got your bearings, you'll discover lots of other great routes from the Woods via Tewin, Burnham Green & Digswell too.
Reply ID 36356
Hi Bikeman Bad news re Sunday I'm afraid - instead of getting to go out on my bike, I have to stay in and show potential renters round my current flat, so can't make it this time. Am definitely still keen though, perhaps another time? I should be moving to Bengeo 1st April which will make it a lot easier to get out!
Reply ID 36378
OK, that's a shame, although the weather forecast is for rain on Sunday. With no other takers I think I'll see what the weather is like and go out on my road bike instead. Now come on everybody who's interested let us know when you can make a ride?
Reply ID 36380
bikeman, I've been meaning to come along on one of these rides ever since you first started arranging them, only to be thwarted by plans made by Mrs.Joby that I was apparently "told about ages ago" every time. I am currently trying to compile a list of my free Sunday mornings over the next month or so - hopefully I should be able to make some of these.
Reply ID 36904
I might be up for this now that it's getting a bit less wet :) Saturdays are best for me, any time of day.
Reply ID 37142
Saturday will be better for me too as the racing generally happens on a Sunday. Anyone else do Saturdays? Come on put your name down.
Reply ID 37168
Saturdays are good for me too...starting from April
Reply ID 37190
Yes Saturdays are ok for me too.
Reply ID 37204
Will there be grass track racing on Hartham Common this year?
Reply ID 37205
Saturday would be good for me. Although Sunday's morning is also good for me. Where would we ride Bikeman?
Reply ID 37209
Nice to see so many cyclists and walkers out yesterday taking advantage of the good weather
Reply ID 37236
quote:Next one will be through Bramfield Woods up to Watton and back. There are a few tracks around the Bramfield area that can be used. Also did one along the Cole Green Way then through Essendon and Little Berkhampstead and back
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Saturday would be good for me. Although Sunday's morning is also good for me. Where would we ride Bikeman?
Reply ID 37243
quote:Not at Hartham, but there will be at St Andrews schoool on 17th June and Sele School 5th August.
Originally posted by Steve
Will there be grass track racing on Hartham Common this year?
Reply ID 37245
quote:It's a shame it is not an at Hartham. It always attracts passing interest. I took my son along to watch it in the past......it's a great spectacle.
Originally posted by bikemanquote:Not at Hartham, but there will be at St Andrews schoool on 17th June and Sele School 5th August.
Originally posted by Steve
Will there be grass track racing on Hartham Common this year?
Reply ID 37302
Bikeman - sounds good! Dates-wise, I could do Sat Apr 14 or 21. Any good for anyone?
Reply ID 37349
I am usually free most Saturdays(barring 31st March) so fine by me. All I need is confirmation that is going ahead via here.
Reply ID 37714
quote:Yup, i should be able to. Will watch on here for a confirmed date..
Originally posted by bikeman
Saturday will be better for me too as the racing generally happens on a Sunday. Anyone else do Saturdays? Come on put your name down.
Reply ID 37731
quote:Hi Codek2, I think that the 14th April will probably be the next possible date. Who's up for a ride that Saturday morning?
Originally posted by codek2quote:Yup, i should be able to. Will watch on here for a confirmed date..
Originally posted by bikeman
Saturday will be better for me too as the racing generally happens on a Sunday. Anyone else do Saturdays? Come on put your name down.
Reply ID 37741
Yep I am up for it 9:30 by the bins at Hartham?
Reply ID 37742
doh i'm in Amsterdam that weekend hey ho [:D] Keep me in the loop for the next one though! Dan
Reply ID 37744
Saturday 14th April is good for me. Was up at Bramfield woods last week and it's *very* muddy still - great fun (apart from the chain constantly coming off due to getting clogged up with mud). Also, watch out for the "Attention - new hedge" sign near Gobions. No idea what that is for.
Reply ID 37751
I'm moving house April 14th so I'm not going to make that one unfortunately [:(]
Reply ID 38061
Sorry to disappoint Joby, but I was running thru Bramfield Woods on Sunday 25th March & despite all the rain last week, nearly all the lovely mud has disappeared. In fact, the ground was so hard in places that I nearly turned my ankle, the only mud to speak of was in Barber's Close by Perrywood Lane.
Reply ID 38378
OK so we have me Biker and Joby for Saturday. Anyone else? Roll up roll up.
Reply ID 38526
I will be by the bottle banks on Hartham Common at 9:30am Saturday 14th April. I will see you there.
Reply ID 38534
Will be there, although may have to duck out part-way through the ride depending on time (I need to be back home by 12ish.)
Reply ID 38607
Joby and Biker hope you enjoyed the ride on Saturday. Hopefully we'll have a few more next time!
Reply ID 38638
Yep sure did will definitely be coming on the next one. Thanks again.
Reply ID 38650
Hi all.. anything planned for coming weekend?
Reply ID 38776
quote:No sorry I am not around. 28th April I am available, would anyone like a ride that day?
Originally posted by Sargasso
Hi all.. anything planned for coming weekend?
Reply ID 38804
Unfortunately cannot do 28th - have an airport run at some unGodly hour.
Reply ID 39083
Any takers? Please let me know by wednesday so I can make other plans otherwise
Reply ID 39094
Can't make Saturdays for a while - baby Joby has started "swimming" lessons on Saturday mornings. Would still be interested in any Sunday morning rides, though.
Reply ID 39224
Hi, is anyone riding this weekend? I'm new to the area and would love to join in although I haven't cycled for a while so can't promise I'll be all that fast! Is that a problem? Oh and I take it girls are allowed....? [;)]
Reply ID 39251
anyone around for a ride next weekend then? sat or sun.. If anyone went out today i hope they took plenty of water! it's roasting outside...
Reply ID 39284
Sorry will be at the other end of the country next weekend but am available after that.
Reply ID 39698
If any of you cyclists out there are offered any cycle lamps on the cheap, we have a group of our regulars who had theirs liberated outside the White Lion in Bengeo last Wednesday night whilst partaking of refreshments in the aforesaid public house. Many thanks. You can contact us through my profile, or direct at The Black Horse.
Reply ID 41311
I've just bought a bike. I'd forgotten what great fun cycling is and enjoying feeling physically knackered through exercise rather than mentally through work. I've had a few rides out with my 10 year old son. He prefers the off road routes like the Cole Green Way and along the River Lea rather than roads. Can anyone recommend something mainly off road between 5-10 miles around Hertford. Now that Google Earth has all of Hertford and the surrounding areas in high definition, I'd be prepared to map out any cycle routes. I can either put them on my webspace or maybe admin will host them on here.
Reply ID 41318
quote:If you go back to page 9 of this thread you will see a post by 'Muddy' that describes a lovely off-road route taking in Bramfield Woods. Take a compass [:)]
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Can anyone recommend something mainly off road between 5-10 miles around Hertford.
Reply ID 41542
Yes Bramfield and up to Datchworth if you see all the red line on the map they are bridal paths/ways that you can cycle on. Note you are not meant to cycle on footpaths. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=528500&y=216500&z=3&sv=528500,216500&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
Reply ID 44707
Hello all Was just wondering if anyone fancies meeting up for a bike ride - perhaps out to Bramfield or Broxbourne Woods? Maybe this weekend or next sometime? Got to get some more riding in before the evil weather starts!!
Reply ID 45367
Hi all, does anyone up for a bramfield ride or similar this weekend, preferably sunday? Via a pub if that gets more interest? :) Weather looks good - it'll probably be cold, but hopefully sunny and clear!
Reply ID 47412
anyone for a ride this sunday (6th?) the forecast again looks stunning - full sun, probably slightly nippy too.
Reply ID 52829
quote:There will be grass track at St Andrews schoool on 15th June 2008 and Sele School 3rd August 2008.
Originally posted by bikemanquote:Not at Hartham, but there will be at St Andrews schoool on 17th June and Sele School 5th August.
Originally posted by Steve
Will there be grass track racing on Hartham Common this year?
Reply ID 52855
Scuse my ignorance Bikeman, can you please explain what the grass track racing is? :-)