Topic ID 1942
... coz I've got a cool car. [img]../images/pavement_vw.jpg[/img] Spotted opposite The Woolpack in Millbridge!
Reply ID 24807
Broken down and pulled off the road in vain attempt to avoid incommoding others. Not so cool. Fixed now, I believe and cool again.
Reply ID 24809
quote:Steve. Isn't it outside Anthony Davies on Millbridge?
Originally posted by Steve
... coz I've got a cool car. Spotted opposite The Woolpack in The Wash!
Reply ID 24814
quote:Yes. Thanks for correcting me.
Originally posted by Berbatov
Steve. Isn't it outside Anthony Davies on Millbridge?
Reply ID 24816
[;)] Fantastic..... so is this the 'secure' parking for the new hotel?
Reply ID 24832
At least it will stop bikes using the pavements. Perhaps this is a new initiative. Power to the people! Sorry, now I realise it is a new taxi rank to make way for the bikes that want to travel against the flow of traffic into Fore Street (see other thread) No I'm wrong. This is just another Hertfordian taking care of themselves without a thought for anyone else. Great photo. Shame we don't know who this 'parking moron' is...(unless you know differently)
Reply ID 24844
The driver would have been lucky to escape a fine for parking on the pavement, whilst accepting their thoughfulness in avoiding their vehicle becoming an obstruction to other traffic.
Reply ID 24846
Yep, I know this car and that the owner has had some reliability problems. I'll ask the owner, but as I said in my earlier post, the most likely scenario is the vehicle stalled in the queue for the lights and was pushed to this position with the assistance of passers by. I guess if she'd left it on the road you'd still have called her a "moron" for obstructing traffic. It is, however, a great photo and a funny caption. Knowing the owner, I'm sure she'll see the humour. Let's not get vicious or insulting over it, though.
Reply ID 24847
The alternative caption was "classic car - classic parking"
Reply ID 24932
I think that parking on the pavement like that is a police matter - not a parking attendants matter. Therfore as Herts Constabulary can't/won't enforce parking any more, this car is unlikely to get a ticket.
Reply ID 24979
Had the car been a Mercedes or BMW, or had a ridiculously large spoiler bolted onto it I would have assumed it was parked out of sheer bloody-mindedness. It's a great picture.
Reply ID 24999
Perhaps that's the answer - cars and bikes on the pavements, pedestrians on the roads![:D]
Reply ID 25008
Oh dear. Chatting with the owner tonight, I find my original guess was right. The poor gal has just bought the car and is now having to shell out for a replacement engine.
Reply ID 25009
Give her my regards. I just knew that the car must have failed.
Reply ID 25019
quote:She would have been very upset to have been penalised for parking on the pavement in addition to the cost of a new engine.
Originally posted by shunt
Oh dear. Chatting with the owner tonight, I find my original guess was right. The poor gal has just bought the car and is now having to shell out for a replacement engine.
Reply ID 25044
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25055
I am certainly not suggesting that a car that is broken down should be ticketed - especially as the owner moved the vehicle to a location where it would minimise obstruction. (I wouldn't put it past the TWs to issue a ticket anyway if it had been left on the road)
Reply ID 25057
quote:I thought Beetles had a spare engine in the boot [:D]
Originally posted by shunt
Oh dear. Chatting with the owner tonight, I find my original guess was right. The poor gal has just bought the car and is now having to shell out for a replacement engine.
Reply ID 25072
with a rugby team and no engine carrying it home may have been an option...! :D
Reply ID 25086
Nah, I used to do Discos for a rugby team. Offers to help re-load the van evaporated when it was found that not one of them could lift one of my bass bins!
Reply ID 25108
quote:Actually, you are wrong. There is a single yellow line at this location, and yellow lines apply to all of the highway, including the pavements.
Originally posted by shunt
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25123
quote:You are indeed correct in that the offense is not parking on the pavement, but the same offense as if the vehicle is on the road, but uninforcible in the case of a vehicle which has suffered a mechanical breakdown. A new style PA, would be required to ticket this car and not make an exception. The owner was, in this way, lucky to have escaped the paperwork. So, the offense of parking on the pavement is still non-existent and obstruction at the discretion of the police as my original statement, but does it really matter?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Actually, you are wrong. There is a single yellow line at this location, and yellow lines apply to all of the highway, including the pavements.
Originally posted by shunt
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25145
All sympathy for breaking down - not fun and sounds expensive, though at least it's a nice town to break down in [:)] It's a shame she didn't leave it to one side of the pavement so pushchairs and wheelchairs could get through though.
Reply ID 25148
Heavy car, slight woman. I'd imagine that's where passing good samaritans or drivers, behind her at the lights, plonked it.
Reply ID 25179
quote:At the risk of being labelled "pedantic", please try to get your spelling right. The word is "offence" not "offense" and it is "unenforceable" not the way you spelled it Please! At the risk of being labelled "pedantic" can you try to get your spelling correct It is "offence" and "unenforceable"
Originally posted by shuntquote:You are indeed correct in that the offense is not parking on the pavement, but the same offense as if the vehicle is on the road, but uninforcible in the case of a vehicle which has suffered a mechanical breakdown. A new style PA, would be required to ticket this car and not make an exception. The owner was, in this way, lucky to have escaped the paperwork. So, the offense of parking on the pavement is still non-existent and obstruction at the discretion of the police as my original statement, but does it really matter?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Actually, you are wrong. There is a single yellow line at this location, and yellow lines apply to all of the highway, including the pavements.
Originally posted by shunt
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25180
quote:Is this man serious??
Originally posted by ian.ball
All sympathy for breaking down - not fun and sounds expensive, though at least it's a nice town to break down in [:)] It's a shame she didn't leave it to one side of the pavement so pushchairs and wheelchairs could get through though.
Reply ID 25181
quote:Back at you pedantic Buzz - the word is 'spelt', not 'spelled'. Like everyone else, I understood what Shunt was talking about. And... you have spelt the word 'unenforceable' in exactly the same way as Shunt. 'Jog on' please.
Originally posted by buzzquote:At the risk of being labelled "pedantic", please try to get your spelling right. The word is "offence" not "offense" and it is "unenforceable" not the way you spelled it Please! At the risk of being labelled "pedantic" can you try to get your spelling correct It is "offence" and "unenforceable"
Originally posted by shuntquote:You are indeed correct in that the offense is not parking on the pavement, but the same offense as if the vehicle is on the road, but uninforcible in the case of a vehicle which has suffered a mechanical breakdown. A new style PA, would be required to ticket this car and not make an exception. The owner was, in this way, lucky to have escaped the paperwork. So, the offense of parking on the pavement is still non-existent and obstruction at the discretion of the police as my original statement, but does it really matter?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Actually, you are wrong. There is a single yellow line at this location, and yellow lines apply to all of the highway, including the pavements.
Originally posted by shunt
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25182
The spelling thread is elsewhere. I am ADD and have often apologised for being unable to spell to those who can find nothing else to annoy them. I'm getting very fed up with this kind of one up-manship and boasting. Spelling isn't clever. The vast majority of the population can do it! A small minority, Dyslexics and ADD, can't because they are wired differently. Most of our population are white too. Do you have a pop at those who aren't?
Reply ID 25183
quote:Just ignore her Shunt. It's easy to take a swipe on here. At least you have a local opinion which we understand. Anyway, where were we....
Originally posted by shunt
The spelling thread is elsewhere. I am ADD and have often apologised for being unable to spell to those who can find nothing else to annoy them. I'm getting very fed up with this kind of one up-manship and boasting. Spelling isn't clever. The vast majority of the population can do it! A small minority, Dyslexics and ADD, can't because they are wired differently. Most of our population are white too. Do you have a pop at those who aren't?
Reply ID 25256
quote:I assume that lemonjelly has issues with owners of quality cars? although i have to agree with the Spoiler remark![;)]
Originally posted by lemonjelly
Had the car been a Mercedes or BMW, or had a ridiculously large spoiler bolted onto it I would have assumed it was parked out of sheer bloody-mindedness. It's a great picture.
Reply ID 25287
ah so mad mick has issues with performance cars then? :) what if it was an executive car with a spoiler?
Reply ID 25295
quote:Well, then it would be left in the middle of the road, causing Hertford Gridlock, whist its owner called up a taxi & the RAC would turn up later...... Sorry ...sterotyping again......
Originally posted by codek2
ah so mad mick has issues with performance cars then? :) what if it was an executive car with a spoiler?
Reply ID 25413
quote:
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Back at you pedantic Buzz - the word is 'spelt', not 'spelled'. Like everyone else, I understood what Shunt was talking about. And... you have spelt the word 'unenforceable' in exactly the same way as Shunt. 'Jog on' please. According to the Oxford English Dictionary both "spelt" & "spelled" are equally correct. As for the spelling of "unenforceable", I suggest you go back and check Shunts' spelling
Originally posted by buzzquote:At the risk of being labelled "pedantic", please try to get your spelling right. The word is "offence" not "offense" and it is "unenforceable" not the way you spelled it Please! At the risk of being labelled "pedantic" can you try to get your spelling correct It is "offence" and "unenforceable"
Originally posted by shuntquote:You are indeed correct in that the offense is not parking on the pavement, but the same offense as if the vehicle is on the road, but uninforcible in the case of a vehicle which has suffered a mechanical breakdown. A new style PA, would be required to ticket this car and not make an exception. The owner was, in this way, lucky to have escaped the paperwork. So, the offense of parking on the pavement is still non-existent and obstruction at the discretion of the police as my original statement, but does it really matter?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Actually, you are wrong. There is a single yellow line at this location, and yellow lines apply to all of the highway, including the pavements.
Originally posted by shunt
There is no such offence and the police in the case of a broken down vehicle unlikely to consider "obstruction". They aren't quite that petty. What would you have done then? Picked it up and carried it home on your head?
Reply ID 25427
quote:"Shunts'"? Which one of his family should I ask? Or is Shunt a group somewhere? Doubt it as it sounds singular from the posts. Be careful with your own grammar please before you slate others on this forum.
Originally posted by buzzquote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
As for the spelling of "unenforceable", I suggest you go back and check Shunts' spelling
Reply ID 25428
Oh, well played sir [:D]
Reply ID 25429
quote:
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:"Shunts'"? Which one of his family should I ask? Or is Shunt a group somewhere? Doubt it as it sounds singular from the posts. Be careful with your own grammar please before you slate others on this forum.
Originally posted by buzzquote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
As for the spelling of "unenforceable", I suggest you go back and check Shunts' spelling
Reply ID 25430
quote:Sorry? which part of my grammar are you criticising?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:"Shunts'"? Which one of his family should I ask? Or is Shunt a group somewhere? Doubt it as it sounds singular from the posts. Be careful with your own grammar please before you slate others on this forum.
Originally posted by buzzquote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
[quote]Originally posted by buzz
[quote]Originally posted by shunt
As for the spelling of "unenforceable", I suggest you go back and check Shunts' spelling
Reply ID 25431
Your use of the apostrophe. Anyway, this lady parked her car in an appropriate place due to a break down and I am pretty sure that, under the circumstance that met her, we would all do the same until the situation could be resolved.
Reply ID 25432
Actually, she didn't park her car in an appropriate place. It is illegal, broken down or not.
Reply ID 25433
I would have done the same to allow the flow of traffic to continue, illegal or not. I think I might have a bit of common sense like she did and I am sure the police would agree Mr Smith.
Reply ID 25436
I would have sked someone to help me push it into a safe place. The police would have helped as well.
Reply ID 25437
quote:How far would you expect 'them' to push it? St Andrew Street Car Park? This would have caused total chaos. I'm sure that this did not cause much disturbance in an emergency.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I would have sked someone to help me push it into a safe place. The police would have helped as well.
Reply ID 25438
Pushing a car to St Andrew Street car park? Total chaos? Come on, get a grip on reality. How about the taxi rank across the road?
Reply ID 25440
quote:Glad to see that you are on the ball and can be just as pedantic as me[:)]
Originally posted by Berbatov
Your use of the apostrophe. Anyway, this lady parked her car in an appropriate place due to a break down and I am pretty sure that, under the circumstance that met her, we would all do the same until the situation could be resolved.
Reply ID 25442
quote:Hmmm.. I think your comment may well be slammed back over the net at you on this one John. If you imagine the situation, broken down, woman on her own (we assume) & you are expecting casual passers-by to help her reverse park without an engine. I think she did a good job to get the thing out of the way to be frank. A friend of mine broke down in St Andrews St some time ago & far from helping her passing motorists gave her a hail of abuse as she tried to get the thing working again & had to call up someone to help her move it.. And that was in winter &, as I recall, in the rain…. As you so eloquently put it yourself – get a grip….
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Pushing a car to St Andrew Street car park? Total chaos? Come on, get a grip on reality. How about the taxi rank across the road?
Reply ID 25450
Blimey, I didn't realise the residents of Hertford were so cruel and heartless. I've been in a similar situation several times in the past and always found people very helpful. I've also been in the situation where I've helped give someone a push. I guess I must have been lucky. It appears the coffin of the Dunkirk spirit has been well and truly hammered down wih 6 inch nails, dropped to the bottom of a mine shaft and encased in concrete.
Reply ID 25452
I reckon it probably happens both ways. In this case, there was help to get the vehicle out of the right hand lane, as it was blocking progress of those queued behind, but not enough to push it for any distance.
Reply ID 25454
quote:I'd say R.I.P., but as I do tend to look at a pint as being (most times ) half-full, rather than half-empty I'd like to think that the incident I referred to was an isolated one... particually in Hertford. So maybe the Dunkirk Spirit still has legs ....... no 6 inch nails, mine shafts or concrete required..
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Blimey, I didn't realise the residents of Hertford were so cruel and heartless. I've been in a similar situation several times in the past and always found people very helpful. I've also been in the situation where I've helped give someone a push. I guess I must have been lucky. It appears the coffin of the Dunkirk spirit has been well and truly hammered down wih 6 inch nails, dropped to the bottom of a mine shaft and encased in concrete.
Reply ID 25830
A breakdown is either a deeply embarrassing experience or not in the least, depending on your character. Getting a vehicle out of the way in consideration of other drivers is to be commended, but perhaps not so much if the pavement it ends up on just about accommodates it and clearly displaces pedestrians. (sometimes you can't win) However.....it's those drivers who put 2 wheels on a pavement, reducing its width and saunter off without a care that gets up my nose. And if it's a hulking great big 4X4 to boot... I'm a car driver so this isn't an anti-car moan, nor do I have anything against 4X4's as such but not when their drivers carelessly cause problems for others. Perhaps I should say that applies to all inconsiderate drivers.
Reply ID 25928
quote:My only comment to drivers of 4x4's is for them to learn the width of the vehicle. There is only so much of my lane I am prepared to give way to a Range Rover coming towards me in the morning, and quite a lot of that driver's own lane that he/she could use as he/she passes parked cars (as I experienced driving down Queen's Road this morning!).
Originally posted by 60sDJ
A breakdown is either a deeply embarrassing experience or not in the least, depending on your character. Getting a vehicle out of the way in consideration of other drivers is to be commended, but perhaps not so much if the pavement it ends up on just about accommodates it and clearly displaces pedestrians. (sometimes you can't win) However.....it's those drivers who put 2 wheels on a pavement, reducing its width and saunter off without a care that gets up my nose. And if it's a hulking great big 4X4 to boot... I'm a car driver so this isn't an anti-car moan, nor do I have anything against 4X4's as such but not when their drivers carelessly cause problems for others. Perhaps I should say that applies to all inconsiderate drivers.
Reply ID 25930
Could not agree more - if you have a chelsea tractor then please learn how to handle it.
Reply ID 25933
quote:I think this applies to many. As the driver of an excessively large vehicle and left-hand-drive too, it never ceases to amaze me how a Ford Fiasco can take up more of the road than I'm using.[:D]
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:My only comment to drivers of 4x4's is for them to learn the width of the vehicle. There is only so much of my lane I am prepared to give way to a Range Rover coming towards me in the morning, and quite a lot of that driver's own lane that he/she could use as he/she passes parked cars (as I experienced driving down Queen's Road this morning!).
Originally posted by 60sDJ
A breakdown is either a deeply embarrassing experience or not in the least, depending on your character. Getting a vehicle out of the way in consideration of other drivers is to be commended, but perhaps not so much if the pavement it ends up on just about accommodates it and clearly displaces pedestrians. (sometimes you can't win) However.....it's those drivers who put 2 wheels on a pavement, reducing its width and saunter off without a care that gets up my nose. And if it's a hulking great big 4X4 to boot... I'm a car driver so this isn't an anti-car moan, nor do I have anything against 4X4's as such but not when their drivers carelessly cause problems for others. Perhaps I should say that applies to all inconsiderate drivers.