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Have been doing this for a few weeks now and its getting better every week. A bunch of guys and gals come down with tamborines, guitars, flutes and whistles and find a song thay know or sometimes don't know, and just join in with each other. My one year old son loves it and is becoming a bit of a mover. It's a nice way to start the week so come one come all. We also have a poker league starting soon
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I take it you are the better half of Jayzee :-) What time do these jamming sessions start please?
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quote:Sounds OK and I hope it goes well, bearing in mind that previous incarnations of jam sessions locally have never worked well. Personally the last thing I would want to see in the pub at any time of day, and especially in the evening, is a one year old dancing along to anything. There's a big difference between achieving a balance of adults playing along together, and egos collectively doing their own thing, none of which should involve young children.
Originally posted by jayzee
Have been doing this for a few weeks now and its getting better every week. A bunch of guys and gals come down with tamborines, guitars, flutes and whistles and find a song thay know or sometimes don't know, and just join in with each other. My one year old son loves it and is becoming a bit of a mover. It's a nice way to start the week so come one come all. We also have a poker league starting soon
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MYSON lives in the pub are you saying that he should never go down stairs in the place that is his home
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quote:Surely the bar during opening hours does not consitute his living environment? However, I didn't realise that the thread about the jam session was an advertisement initiated by the licensee of the pub in question.
Originally posted by jayzee
MYSON lives in the pub are you saying that he should never go down stairs in the place that is his home
Reply ID 26631
Jayzee - those of us who've come along previously have all been down on different Mondays to each other with some variable attendance. So we decided if thats OK to have the jam every other Monday for now, with the next session in a weeks time , Monday 2nd October. I was there last week - I wouldn't call myself a great guitarist by any means so if you feel like borrowing mine and shutting me up just ask. Be great if some others brought along a different acoustic instrument as well - last week we had a home made banjo, uke, and various harps. Even you Gabriel, sounds like you could do with a laugh - you might just enjoy something without thinking too deeply about it.
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quote:An Advertisment? Oh dear - please read our [url="http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/policy.asp"]Policy[/url] regarding acceptable use of the forum.
Originally posted by gabriel
However, I didn't realise that the thread about the jam session was an advertisement initiated by the licensee of the pub in question.
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The Hertford Kazoo Club.....Hmmm No best not. Seriously, Forums are one thing.... adverts erm, in the local papers....? No?
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Whats all this talk of this thread being an advert? Presumably If it was me and not the pub landlord who started it and said "this is a fantastic evening which is a great end to the grimmest day of the week" that would be my opinion and not an advert. Lets get behind someone tying to make a go of something. I'm beginning to think this forum is a bunch of whingers - sorry! Plenty of other events have recieved publicity here e.g the RAM evening.
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quote:You may have a point, but the thread WAS started by the landlord and also advertises a new 'poker night'. Rules is rules as they say.
Originally posted by spooky
Whats all this talk of this thread being an advert? Presumably If it was me and not the pub landlord who started it and said "this is a fantastic evening which is a great end to the grimmest day of the week" that would be my opinion and not an advert. Lets get behind someone tying to make a go of something. I'm beginning to think this forum is a bunch of whingers - sorry! Plenty of other events have recieved publicity here e.g the RAM evening.
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quote:There's absolutely nothing wrong with people commenting good, bad or indifferently about various functions, which is completely different to the landlord or landlady of the venue in question using this forum to directly advertise events. I believe the forum was also used to advertise a poker league. Isn't the premise of this forum to be as a means to express opinions which may not always to the liking of you and me, as indeed will be the nature of many events? Surely it exists to involve, warn, advise, recommend, opine etc?
Originally posted by spooky
Whats all this talk of this thread being an advert? Presumably If it was me and not the pub landlord who started it and said "this is a fantastic evening which is a great end to the grimmest day of the week" that would be my opinion and not an advert. Lets get behind someone tying to make a go of something. I'm beginning to think this forum is a bunch of whingers - sorry! Plenty of other events have recieved publicity here e.g the RAM evening.
Reply ID 26667
If an interesting local event is happening some time in the future it's nice to hear about it. I don't think it matters if we are told by Jayzee, you, or uncle tom cobbly. Hearing the opinions of someone who has been along after the event is no use at all to anyone who might have enjoyed it. Yes there is a question of impartiality if the landlord mentions the event here, but you can't expect someone to take out an advert for what is essentially a small monday evening get together - it would be a real pedant who asked them to do so.
Reply ID 26704
I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but to be able to have a poker league, you need to have a full gaming licence. The only card game allowed in a public house is Cribbage for small stakes. This has been highlighted tonight on the 6 o'c BBC news. Incidentally, when more than two musicians play at once I believe you need the correct music/performance licence. I'm not sure if this applies to jam sessions and should be something to be investigated as I understand the fines are horrendous.
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quote:Move your pub to Ireland Jayzee, where the merriment of live music and ale is expected and accepted. That way, the PC brigade can't get to you! It's your only choice, they are on to you!! [8D]
Originally posted by Fish Wife
I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but to be able to have a poker league, you need to have a full gaming licence. The only card game allowed in a public house is Cribbage for small stakes. This has been highlighted tonight on the 6 o'c BBC news. Incidentally, when more than two musicians play at once I believe you need the correct music/performance licence. I'm not sure if this applies to jam sessions and should be something to be investigated as I understand the fines are horrendous.
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quote:I couldn't agree with you more in respect of live music. It's a sad state of affairs that a very expensive licence is needed to be able to stage events involving more than two performers at once. Nothing can compare to live music that is well played and well presented.
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Move your pub to Ireland Jayzee, where the merriment of live music and ale is expected and accepted. That way, the PC brigade can't get to you! It's your only choice, they are on to you!! [8D]
Originally posted by Fish Wife
I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but to be able to have a poker league, you need to have a full gaming licence. The only card game allowed in a public house is Cribbage for small stakes. This has been highlighted tonight on the 6 o'c BBC news. Incidentally, when more than two musicians play at once I believe you need the correct music/performance licence. I'm not sure if this applies to jam sessions and should be something to be investigated as I understand the fines are horrendous.
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quote:....such as at the RAM on every other Thursday or is that an advertisement? I'm so confused now.
I couldn't agree with you more in respect of live music. It's a sad state of affairs that a very expensive licence is needed to be able to stage events involving more than two performers at once. Nothing can compare to live music that is well played and well presented.
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Since the licensing laws changed there is no separate entertainment licence. It is incorporated in the one licence issued by EHDC. If entertainment is permitted on the said licence on stipulated days and within stipulated hours, only then can entertainment legally take place, regardless of how many performers are taking part. As for poker, a league PLAYING FOR POINTS and not money is allowed. If money is involved, then YES, a full gaming licence has to be in place. Poker cannot be played anywhere on the licensed premises i.e. upstairs, a back room etc., for money. Hope this helps.
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quote:Last week at the Nags Head they did [:D]
Originally posted by Rooster
Since the licensing laws changed there is no separate entertainment licence. It is incorporated in the one licence issued by EHDC. If entertainment is permitted on the said licence on stipulated days and within stipulated hours, only then can entertainment legally take place, regardless of how many performers are taking part. As for poker, a league PLAYING FOR POINTS and not money is allowed. If money is involved, then YES, a full gaming licence has to be in place. Poker cannot be played anywhere on the licensed premises i.e. upstairs, a back room etc., for money. Hope this helps.
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quote:Phew, that's a relief about the music as it has caused some confusion lately.
Originally posted by Rooster
Since the licensing laws changed there is no separate entertainment licence. It is incorporated in the one licence issued by EHDC. If entertainment is permitted on the said licence on stipulated days and within stipulated hours, only then can entertainment legally take place, regardless of how many performers are taking part. As for poker, a league PLAYING FOR POINTS and not money is allowed. If money is involved, then YES, a full gaming licence has to be in place. Poker cannot be played anywhere on the licensed premises i.e. upstairs, a back room etc., for money. Hope this helps.
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This is all too confusing - does the licence thingy apply to the RAM? Or is the RAM a Karaoke event - that should always require a MASSIVE licence for that - or can't we introduce some sort of fine system at the very least... Whisper it quietly or the killjoys will ban it - Mick the shears has a guitar on his wall and has been known to serenade the punters!
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quote:Perhaps you didn't get the 'entertainment permitted as long as the licence is in place' bit from Rooster's post. No separate licence is required unless you want 'gaming' for a cash driven poker league. Just to clear up any misunderstandings, the Ram entertainment as published on the board outside the pub : Every Monday - Dave's Karaoke Every other Thursday - Acoustic Open Mic with Double-Life Entertainment. I hope that helps.
Originally posted by spooky
This is all too confusing - does the licence thingy apply to the RAM? Or is the RAM a Karaoke event - that should always require a MASSIVE licence for that - or can't we introduce some sort of fine system at the very least... Whisper it quietly or the killjoys will ban it - Mick the shears has a guitar on his wall and has been known to serenade the punters!
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quote:They did what?? and where is the Nags Head?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Last week at the Nags Head they did [:D]
Originally posted by Rooster
Since the licensing laws changed there is no separate entertainment licence. It is incorporated in the one licence issued by EHDC. If entertainment is permitted on the said licence on stipulated days and within stipulated hours, only then can entertainment legally take place, regardless of how many performers are taking part. As for poker, a league PLAYING FOR POINTS and not money is allowed. If money is involved, then YES, a full gaming licence has to be in place. Poker cannot be played anywhere on the licensed premises i.e. upstairs, a back room etc., for money. Hope this helps.
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Shiela wrote: "Perhaps you didn't get the 'entertainment permitted as long as the licence is in place'" I did get that - I just don't know what constitutes entertainment - its a very grey area. Is the Karaoke stuff actually entertainment? If you enjoy it then maybe it is!
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quote:It's a pub on a popular tv programme starring David Jason.
Originally posted by Roosterquote:They did what?? and where is the Nags Head?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Last week at the Nags Head they did [:D]
Originally posted by Rooster
Since the licensing laws changed there is no separate entertainment licence. It is incorporated in the one licence issued by EHDC. If entertainment is permitted on the said licence on stipulated days and within stipulated hours, only then can entertainment legally take place, regardless of how many performers are taking part. As for poker, a league PLAYING FOR POINTS and not money is allowed. If money is involved, then YES, a full gaming licence has to be in place. Poker cannot be played anywhere on the licensed premises i.e. upstairs, a back room etc., for money. Hope this helps.
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quote:Yes, I feel much the same way about grunge rock! Karaoke is an acquired taste, one that I do not have, but it is very popular and enjoyed by many people, either to have a go or just listen to everyone else. The karaoke evening is run by someone called Dave every Monday night. Incidentally, he is well known locally and I believe he used to do the karaoke at The Woolpack. He brings a large following of supporters to the pub. Every other Thursday night there is an acoustic open mic night which is run and managed by Double Life Entertainment Management. This event also brings a large group of regular supporters to the pub, as well as new people. This is a live music event, backing tracks of any kind are not allowed. It gives people a chance to perform in public who might not otherwise do so, it also gives the professionals who attend a chance to try out new material. It covers all musical styles and the standard of performance is high. The evening is relaxed and informal. It is enitrely separate and unrelated to the karaoke evening. I hope this information helps to sort out any confusion. Pub entertainment will always boil down to how many people will turn up and you can never please all of the people all of the time. It might be worth noting that Nuala used to regularly turn up at open mic nights in the days before her rebranding, when they were held at The Three Tuns, The Ram (2002) and at The Haig.
Originally posted by spooky
Shiela wrote: "Perhaps you didn't get the 'entertainment permitted as long as the licence is in place'" I did get that - I just don't know what constitutes entertainment - its a very grey area. Is the Karaoke stuff actually entertainment? If you enjoy it then maybe it is!
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Just to clear up a few points: 1) The poker league is for points and not cash. It's a way for new people to the game to learn and not worry about losing cash 2)My son lives in the pub and the whole building is his home. My wife and I run the pub and as you may know, a pub is a long day trading and anytime my son is down stairs it's nice to see him, plus everyone loves him in here cos he is a little character (sorry I'm biased) 3)I have all the right licencing in place to do a number of events in The Bridge House, so that is not a problem either, and poker, karaoke and many other events will be here for people to enjoy. I hope this stops anymore of the misunderstanding of what goes on here. Oh, and Dave does my karaoke here - he is the best in the town by far so please join us at any stage and enjoy.
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oh and one other thing if you have a private game upstairs that is by invite only between freinds and not advertised to the public then you can play as long as it is in your living quarters only and does not involve the downstairs running of the pub itself
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quote:Wahay - there's nothing nicer than a squeezeable baby and nothing wrong with being biased either. That's what Dad's are for. I didn't realise Dave did your pub too, so he's obviously doing alright and good luck to him. I know he's popular at The Ram. Pub entertainment will always be hard work, so it's good to have something that brings in customers and cash. [;)]
Originally posted by jayzee
just to clear up a few points 1)The poker league is for points and not cash its a way for new people to the game to learn and not worry about losing cash 2)Myson lives in the pub and the whole building is his home mywife and I run the pub and as you may know a pub is a long day trading and anytime myson is down stairs its nice to see him plus everyone loves him in here cos he is a little charicter (sorry im biyest) 3)I have all the right licencing in place to do a number of events in the bridge house so that is not a problem either and poker karaoke and many other events will be here for people to enjoy I hope this stops anymore of the misunderstanding of what goes on here oh and dave does my karaoke here he is the best in the town by far so please join us at any stage and enjoy
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Just a reminder that the Jam is on tonight from 8:30. All welcome!!
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quote:http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/UploadDocs/Contents/Documents/Gambling%20Commission%20poker%20guidance.pdf Section 40 may help
Originally posted by jayzee
oh and one other thing if you have a private game upstairs that is by invite only between freinds and not advertised to the public then you can play as long as it is in your living quarters only and does not involve the downstairs running of the pub itself
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Where's Nuala O'Halpin next appearing? Anyone?
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thanks to those who attended monday sounded brill if we do get a few more in on the mondays I will lay on some nibbles for you thanks guys
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quote:blimey, don't you go overdoing it now! [:D]
Originally posted by jayzee
thanks to those who attended monday sounded brill if we do get a few more in on the mondays I will lay on some nibbles for you thanks guys
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quote:Hear hear. Getting a bit bored of seeing links to the "policy regarding acceptable use on the forum". Maybe Admin should setup a section of the forum for adverts??? Or maybe a list of what is going on at different places in Hertford - for gods sake - this is a Hertford website after all!!!!!
Originally posted by spooky
Whats all this talk of this thread being an advert? Presumably If it was me and not the pub landlord who started it and said "this is a fantastic evening which is a great end to the grimmest day of the week" that would be my opinion and not an advert. Lets get behind someone tying to make a go of something. I'm beginning to think this forum is a bunch of whingers - sorry! Plenty of other events have recieved publicity here e.g the RAM evening.
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They kept that site quiet!
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There's a big graphic on our home page
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quote:"Service unavailable" (is this just happening for me?) If the site is down, assuming it's only down temporarily it would be more constructive to post a link to that site with or without the standard "policy regarding acceptable use blah blah blah" whenever someone does the unthinkable of mentioning an event happening in Hertford.
Originally posted by Admin
http://www.askwatson-hertford.co.uk/
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quote:Have just sent information to the site. Very informative. Works fine with Firefox!
Originally posted by gregbquote:"Service unavailable" (is this just happening for me?) If the site is down, assuming it's only down temporarily it would be more constructive to post a link to that site with or without the standard "policy regarding acceptable use blah blah blah" whenever someone does the unthinkable of mentioning an event happening in Hertford.
Originally posted by Admin
http://www.askwatson-hertford.co.uk/
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Doesn't work with Maxthon. [:(!] Am checking it out now with IE. I'm still of the view it should be used as a pointer for relative topics/posts where adverts are inappropriately listed.