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26/09/2006 by Herbert Lemons

Bye bye Bengeo butchers...?

The Bengeo butcher's has a planning notice nailed to it citing a request to change it's use to an osteopath's. Where will I get my scrag end for my special soup now then?


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Reply ID 26732

26/09/2006 by Ewoowar

Is this the last butcher in Hertford? Where is the nearest independent butcher?


Reply ID 26734

26/09/2006 by Rooster

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Is this the last butcher in Hertford? Where is the nearest independent butcher?
Sele Farm?


Reply ID 26740

26/09/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
The Bengeo butcher's has a planning notice nailed to it citing a request to change it's use to an osteopath's. Where will I get my scrag end for my special soup now then?
Tiny's shop, hundred acre estate, hoddesdon. I travel there, best around!


Reply ID 26742

26/09/2006 by azzza

Mr. Romeo's in Ware.. they butchered my Barnet the last time I was in there.


Reply ID 26754

26/09/2006 by Fish Wife

quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
The Bengeo butcher's has a planning notice nailed to it citing a request to change it's use to an osteopath's. Where will I get my scrag end for my special soup now then?
From the osteopath of course! There will be an awful lot of it passing through his or her hands...........


Reply ID 26785

27/09/2006 by ian.ball

There are two butchers in Ware, Pickett's on the Kingshill parade and Gannon's in East Street. Both are excellent.


Reply ID 26830

27/09/2006 by nora batty

You can buy locally reared beef direct from Foxholes Farm and locally reared pork from Millennium Meats at Tewin. You can buy Braughing sausages at Farrow & Farrow.


Reply ID 27278

03/10/2006 by Avery

does any one know when it is closing?


Reply ID 27282

03/10/2006 by nora batty

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Originally posted by Avery
does any one know when it is closing?
When they get permission for change of use. Apparently, Aunty Olives is changing hands and the new owner wants to have a meat counter featuring locally produced meat. I think Brian (the current Bengeo butcher) is going to joint the beasts for them.


Reply ID 27752

09/10/2006 by andleicester

Is the Bengeo Butcher a relation of the Bengeo Bandit?


Reply ID 27843

10/10/2006 by Sheila W Heel

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Originally posted by andleicester
Is the Bengeo Butcher a relation of the Bengeo Bandit?
Second cousin, twice removed. Seriously, a shame that knee and back problems are a better use of commercial premises than a good butcher. Sign of the times I suppose? It all comes down to profit at the end of the day. However, does anyone use the speciality butcher in Baldock? He has lines of people out of the door every time I go over there and a huge amount of staff. Perhaps it's all about finding a niche market.


Reply ID 28003

11/10/2006 by Fish Wife

quote:
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
quote:
Originally posted by andleicester
Is the Bengeo Butcher a relation of the Bengeo Bandit?
Second cousin, twice removed. Seriously, a shame that knee and back problems are a better use of commercial premises than a good butcher. Sign of the times I suppose? It all comes down to profit at the end of the day. However, does anyone use the speciality butcher in Baldock? He has lines of people out of the door every time I go over there and a huge amount of staff. Perhaps it's all about finding a niche market.
Are these lines of people hung out for sale as speciality dried meats? Are they former shepherds, hanging about in case someone is going to make shepherd's pie? Wha'? [:p]



Reply ID 28031

12/10/2006 by Marilyn

Thats interesting, hopefully it will remain retail of some sort


Reply ID 28037

12/10/2006 by Avery

Good lets hope it stays as a bucher as where am I going to get my christmas dinner from.


Reply ID 28039

12/10/2006 by nora batty

I would really appreciate a chemist on the Avenue Parade, with a late duty pharmacist.


Reply ID 28043

12/10/2006 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by nora batty
I would really appreciate a chemist on the Avenue Parade, with a late duty pharmacist.
There was a chemist there originally before the hairdressers I think.



Reply ID 28368

17/10/2006 by lemonjelly

A 'photographic shop / showroom' - Seems a bit out of the way for such a shop. I presume the prospective owner has an established client base and a good reputation that customers will seek out, as he/she won't be able to rely on much passing trade. Mrs Lemonjelly and I will miss the butcher's shop, we've always had the best steak from there.


Reply ID 28370

17/10/2006 by Tigger

What a great shame. Off to Ware for my meat then [:(]


Reply ID 28372

17/10/2006 by Avery

Well I wonder what sort of photography it will be. Will they sell camera equipment? (we have a perfecly good shop already in hertford) Or will it be a Photographic Studio? (we also have one of these too on St Andrew Street) I wonder if the showroom part will be for local artists?


Reply ID 28377

17/10/2006 by Deveraux

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Originally posted by Avery
Well I wonder what sort of photography it will be. Will they sell camera equipment? (we have a perfecly good shop already in hertford) Or will it be a Photographic Studio? (we also have one of these too on St Andrew Street) I wonder if the showroom part will be for local artists?
Given that the application for the osteopath was turned down on the grounds "loss of retail unit", I would guess that there would be a similar objection if it were to become a photography studio? The new application specifically says photographic shop/showroom rather than photographic studio.


Reply ID 28380

17/10/2006 by Marilyn

Thats strange I had heard on the grapevine that the person taking over Auntie Olives is also taking the butchers and continuing as a butchers selling Halal meat as well. We will have to wait and see what turns out to be correct I guess.


Reply ID 28666

21/10/2006 by Exiled in Northants

I could probably use the osteopath....my back goes out more than i do...sorry,couldn`t resist...


Reply ID 30611

15/11/2006 by James007

Hot off the press! I have just found out that Auntie Olives and the Butchers have been bought by the same company. (Marilyn you were spot on). Auntie Olives will stay as it is with more of a mini-market/off licence type of thing going on. As for the Butchers, the new owner asked me whether a take away would go down well in The Avenue and I told him that he'd make more enemies than friends if he did that. So needless to say, he won't be applying to do that. He asked me what the residents would want as he wants a succesful shop to serve the community. Any ideas? I'll be seeing him over the next few days so now's your chance to make suggestions as he has no idea what to put in there.


Reply ID 30613

15/11/2006 by Tigger

quote:
Originally posted by James007
Hot off the press! I have just found out that Auntie Olives and the Butchers have been bought by the same company. (Marilyn you were spot on). Auntie Olives will stay as it is with more of a mini-market/off licence type of thing going on. As for the Butchers, the new owner asked me whether a take away would go down well in The Avenue and I told him that he'd make more enemies than friends if he did that. So needless to say, he won't be applying to do that. He asked me what the residents would want as he wants a succesful shop to serve the community. Any ideas? I'll be seeing him over the next few days so now's your chance to make suggestions as he has no idea what to put in there.
As far as a takeaway goes I think you are right. Nearly all deliver free anyway so may as well get it from Town and there is already one in Bengeo. Another Butchers, Fishmonger, something that sells fresh, good quality food. I don't live there but my Parents do and it is close to me and we used to get our meat there. Ware is the best option now [:(]


Reply ID 30616

15/11/2006 by nora batty

They've spoiled Auntie Olive's. It's not even called that anymore. The inside is like your average London corner shop now. I don't suppose the newsagent is very chuffed, as the new store owners are selling sweets and crisps.


Reply ID 30622

15/11/2006 by Joby

quote:
Originally posted by James007
Auntie Olives will stay as it is with more of a mini-market/off licence type of thing going on.
With nothing to distinguish it from the Co-op, I don't suspect it will do particularly well.
quote:

As for the Butchers, the new owner asked me whether a take away would go down well in The Avenue and I told him that he'd make more enemies than friends if he did that.
Yes - there was stiff local opposition to Brian's plans to provide takeaway meals from the butchers in the evening a couple of years ago.
quote:
He asked me what the residents would want as he wants a succesful shop to serve the community. Any ideas?
Probably a no-go due to the above, but I reckon Bengeo is crying out for a decent chippy.


Reply ID 30626

15/11/2006 by James007

My personal opinion is to keep it as a butchers. I'm not sure that it would survive though.


Reply ID 30654

16/11/2006 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by nora batty
They've spoiled Auntie Olive's. It's not even called that anymore. The inside is like your average London corner shop now. I don't suppose the newsagent is very chuffed, as the new store owners are selling sweets and crisps.
I suspect he is selling what he does in his other shops)no doubt he will discover what is required and stock accordingly. I hope he doesn't upset the newsagent, it would be awful to lose them.


Reply ID 37206

12/03/2007 by Marilyn

have heard on the grapevine that it is not going to be a hala butchers after all. I am told what is happening not sure if anyone else has heard the same or if it is confirmed so don't want to put me foot in it....... I know what it may be going to be do you?????????????


Reply ID 37207

12/03/2007 by James007

A butchers?


Reply ID 37211

12/03/2007 by Hugh

Best butchers by far is Reg Newman in Watton at Stone, cheerful and superb local meat. He never sells anything other than local produce.


Reply ID 37212

12/03/2007 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by James007
A butchers?
Nope I am told the hairdressers are expanding into it, not sure if its right yet though...............


Reply ID 37409

15/03/2007 by furrybunny

The hairdresers have it, are expanding into therapy rooms etc. should be May time I do beleive.



Reply ID 39158

25/04/2007 by Bengeobabe

not another beauty parlour???? "Change of use from A1 (retail) to mixed use (part A1, part beauty parlour and, part sui generis use), new shopfront and internal alterations. "


Reply ID 39169

26/04/2007 by furrybunny

Well not so much as a another beauty salon, but more of an extension, I they do need it, I have been with Headlines since it opened, way back when, some days the salon is quite hectic,it has a good parking area and other shops to use. I think the butchers struggled, I confess, I never used it, shame on me! The landlord must be happy with the move otherwise he would not have granted permission for Sue to lease, I know she has tried before, without success.It will smarten the row of shops up. I miss Olives I thought it was a good shop, they tried to lease the butchers but where turned down by the planning (I think).


Reply ID 39419

01/05/2007 by furrybunny

Went to Headlines today and the new salon extension is fabulous! it will be really swish, even has air con. Good luck to Sue and the girls, they should do very well!


Reply ID 41116

08/06/2007 by Marilyn

I see from to days mercury that they are still discussing if it is going to get permission, seems a bit odd as it has been up and running for a month, did Sue jump the gun and do all the alterations before the rubber stamp or have the mercury put in details of a March meeting rather than a June one?


Reply ID 41124

08/06/2007 by Drama Queen

I know the salon very well and the owners and her family, I am pretty sure that they wouldn't have started the work prior to any permission being granted. It doesn't seem to ring true... It was a complete eyesore for 18 months, with dirt, dust and a magnet vandals as it was... It has been operating using the extension for about a month now, so I cannot for the life of me think this is right in the paper.. I hope not!


Reply ID 41142

08/06/2007 by Marilyn

Knowing Sue I don't think it can be, much more likely the paper have got the dates wrong......... did stike me as odd when I read it, she is probably going to get asked a lot!


Reply ID 41143

08/06/2007 by furrybunny

Thought the same thing reading the Mercury over my morning cuppa, I feel sure Sue would have things about right


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