Topic ID 2176
Yet another letter, this time from HCC, Stansted Road by the triangle is going to be CLOSED from Monday 13th Nov for nearly 2 weeks for drainage work. Diversion is via Ware Road / London Road / A414 Any chance they could have done it during the summer holidays ????
Reply ID 29815
that is going to be absolute chaos :(
Reply ID 29820
quote:Think about it.[:D]
Originally posted by Hato Any chance they could have done it during the summer holidays ????
Reply ID 29861
Wow, does that mean that some of the parents will have to walk their children to school instead of parking on the yellow lines outside of the police station.
Reply ID 29874
quote:No they will park in Ware Road the other side of the police sation and cause even more chaos there, they wouldn't walk, whatever next[:0]
Originally posted by Tazz
Wow, does that mean that some of the parents will have to walk their children to school instead of parking on the yellow lines outside of the police station.
Reply ID 29880
The objection to road works, I find very strange. In some threads there are complaints of lack of action to combat flooding and yet here, people are bleating because work is being done on drainage. We had this with Bengeo Street. Somebody actually thought they should have their council tax reduced for nuisance because they were replacing the pot-holed road surface outside their property with nice fresh tarmac! As for school holiday working, what should we do? Employ thousands more road gangs to sit around all year, so that they can be ready to leap into action and repair every road in the UK during only 13 weeks? Does anybody really think that these road workers were sitting around all through school holidays and just waiting for the opportunity to inconvenience you now? (P.S. Yes, I am fully aware that I can't spell)
Reply ID 29884
quote:Easy tiger..........I have no objection to roadworks in the slightest, in fact I spend most of my working life involved in them. My point is that the B1502 is a main route into Hertford for a large number of people. It's not just the local people it affects, but people that have no choice but to drive into Hertford for work etc. This development hasn't just sprung up overnight so there should be no reason why it couldn't have been planned into the summer holidays or failing that half term (which was 10 days) or postpone it until the christmas break. This traffic now will have to use the A414 which will then back onto Rush Green roundabout before backing onto the A10 at both off slips.
Originally posted by shunt
The objection to road works, I find very strange. In some threads there are complaints of lack of action to combat flooding and yet here, people are bleating because work is being done on drainage. We had this with Bengeo Street. Somebody actually thought they should have their council tax reduced for nuisance because they were replacing the pot-holed road surface outside their property with nice fresh tarmac! As for school holiday working, what should we do? Employ thousands more road gangs to sit around all year, so that they can be ready to leap into action and repair every road in the UK during only 13 weeks? Does anybody really think that these road workers were sitting around all through school holidays and just waiting for the opportunity to inconvenience you now? (P.S. Yes, I am fully aware that I can't spell)
Reply ID 29888
I have a cunning plan....Lets not do anything in hertford in case it upsets someone!
Reply ID 29893
quote:Your point being...?
Originally posted by Mad Mick
I have a cunning plan....Lets not do anything in hertford in case it upsets someone!
Reply ID 29895
But the parents who do the school run and park in Stanstead Road seem to park wherever they feel the can abandon their car. But it seems as though distance is no object to add to this problem. I know of one parent who lives on the Foxholes estate who drives their children to school - Wheatcroft. The way they justify the use of the car - and I have seen this - is to drive to the A10 roundabout then back down to the school. But looking at some of the vehicles used in the school run, I see several 'Chelsea Tractors' and in the case of this particular school I can see the justification of these vehicles - it at the BOTTOM of a hill. Yet trying to leave Foxholes in the morning is a nightmare, as you can't see round all the parked vehicles until half of your car is on the main road. I'm strangely looking forward to the roadworks, as I'll be able to escape from Foxholes in safety
Reply ID 29897
Mad Mick. Do you work for the council? The reason I ask is that you seem to have a glorious anti-reactionary, hellfire & brimstone response to peoples complaints about local work and developments. You obviously embrace progress in all it's forms..... I ain't complaining - I think your vituperating is fabulous.
Reply ID 29910
Herbert, I wish i did work for the council, the only problem with that would be, no-one would live in hertford any more, because i would try every hair brained scheme anybody ever suggested including free hallucinagenic drugs for the over 40's so that everything looks as good to them as it does to me!
Reply ID 29911
I'd vote for ya Mick
Reply ID 29922
Maybe I'll Stand, what is it we are talking about here?? Oh yeah, the road thing! My point is steve, that clearly things need doing, but as Mr Shunt points out we cant employ the manpower to only do them when there are no school kids to get in the way of proceedings. You cant pplease all the people all the time, but some of the people some of the time would be nice....OK maybe i'll sit!
Reply ID 29946
All in favour say 'what's in it for us......' :o)
Reply ID 29948
A null response is good enough for me. Long live the King.... Has anybody actually sufferred from this development to the point where they feel motivated to comment?
Reply ID 29951
I have the answer! Wanted, full time combined teachers/tarmac layers. Package to include 21 days paid holiday per year.
Reply ID 29952
why didnt i say that, thats what i was thinking!!!
Reply ID 29954
Whats in it for us, well i thought i had made that clear in my earlier post! I know i probably spelt hallucinagenic wrong but hey! i think we all know what i mean!...Oh and Beer aswell....and if you're under 40 you can also apply but a small charge may have to be levied.
Reply ID 29998
quote:Madness - I would lurve you to work for County, especially where I'm located as I'm sure your laid-back, yet menacing persona, combined with the ability to instill the fear of the almighty into certain elements would be so very useful. Combine this with our mutual taste for the obscure and we could be a winning team. [:0]
Originally posted by Mad Mick
Herbert, I wish i did work for the council, the only problem with that would be, no-one would live in hertford any more, because i would try every hair brained scheme anybody ever suggested including free hallucinagenic drugs for the over 40's so that everything looks as good to them as it does to me!
Reply ID 30200
im half looking forward to even worse mayhem on the Rush Green roundabout :-( I live in the foxhalls and thats my only route on to the london bound A10 *sniffle* :(
Reply ID 30236
Is Foxhalls different from Foxholes? Honest Q. not taking the P.
Reply ID 30430
sorry I meant foxholes, waso n the phone when I was typing :)
Reply ID 30431
Well well, the 2 weeks of chaos started today, and it was chaos indeed, took me 25 minutes to get from my house (which is just off vixen drive in the foxholes) to get on to the A10, 25 minutes!!! people were doing u-turns all over the place....not letting people out, etc etc, absolute mayhem, what a joke Hertford's road layouts are! I cant believe what a joke this is....god knows what it would be like for anyone wanting to had into town at about 8/8.30am!
Reply ID 30445
quote:No it's not a joke, it's because HCC don't stop and think about the result of their actions. This will be compounded tonight as the M25 is closed between J23 and J26 due to a lorry crossing the central reservation.......
Originally posted by simcut
Well well, the 2 weeks of chaos started today, and it was chaos indeed, took me 25 minutes to get from my house (which is just off vixen drive in the foxholes) to get on to the A10, 25 minutes!!! people were doing u-turns all over the place....not letting people out, etc etc, absolute mayhem, what a joke Hertford's road layouts are! I cant believe what a joke this is....god knows what it would be like for anyone wanting to had into town at about 8/8.30am!
Reply ID 30447
apologies if Im being a bit dim (wouldnt be the first time) but, whats HCC?? Hertfordshire County Council? its a joke that they havent thought it through. Are you kidding about the M25? J23 to J26? oh brilliant :(
Reply ID 30448
Ouch, just looked at the BBC Travel site....nice :/ how did you know about the lorry bit? heard about it on radio or? just al ot of my work colleagues travel home that way, want to get an e-mail sent out.... :) Thanks for the info Hato!
Reply ID 30449
HCC is indeed Herts County Council...... Yep 'fraid most of North London is at a standstill............expect Hertford to start clogging up shortly if not already
Reply ID 30450
Ouch, just read an e-mail on it..... where did you haer about the lorry crossing the central reservation? hope its not very very serious.... :( Great (sarcastic) well I wont be leaving work for another hour or so.....fingers crossed it will clear up by then, I'm not that hopeful though.
Reply ID 30946
The road is still shut, the journey from Foxholes Avenue, around Rush Green roundabout and back down the A414 to Hertford TC is taking approximately an hour in the mornings. Another 4 days apparently of this complete madness. [:(!] (and before you all tell me to walk, I need my car for work visits!) I wonder if that time frame ends up being a reality....... Oh, and then we have traffic lights - whooopedy-do!
Reply ID 30972
I just heard a rumour that the bottom of Stanstead Road is to be closed for another two weeks. Does anyone know if that is true?
Reply ID 30994
quote:Bloody hope not - London Road to Presdales with daughter this morning - 30 mins!!
Originally posted by Tazz
I just heard a rumour that the bottom of Stanstead Road is to be closed for another two weeks. Does anyone know if that is true?
Reply ID 31005
Thanks nothing Foxholes Avenue to Rush Green roundabout - 50 minutes
Reply ID 31006
Doesn't this whole farce prove once again how desperately Hertford needs a by-pass?
Reply ID 31007
But somebody will only protest about it, won't they? What gets me is how the A414 Gascoyne Way backs up from the roundabout by London Road in the morning rush hour and again in the evening rush hour. How does this happen when all the cars went into Hertford in the morning?
Reply ID 31019
quote:I'm still waiting for The Man from HCC Highways to call me back and let me know true finish time of road closure. He has yet to return from lunch apparently.....
I just heard a rumour that the bottom of Stanstead Road is to be closed for another two weeks. Does anyone know if that is true?
Reply ID 31064
quote:How does one temporary road closure, however inconvenient it may be at the time, prove the need for a bypass?
Originally posted by hertfordian
Doesn't this whole farce prove once again how desperately Hertford needs a by-pass?
Reply ID 31073
55 minutes to get out of Mead lane last night. Its getting worse by the day. This gives us a glimse of the not so distant future without a bypass, when more cars are on the road.
Reply ID 31076
Why does Hertford need a bypass - the A414 provides all the proof needed. Gascoyne Way in the morning rush hour can back up from the roundabout at London Road to the Hertingfordbury roundabout and again in the evening. The way in from Waterford can back up from the town centre all the way to the North Road Cemetary. Andrew is right - one road closure does not warrant a bypass, but general everyday traffic does. As to the Gallows Hill closure, the sign at the junction with Ware Road now states that the road will be closed for 4 weeks
Reply ID 31093
quote:Hertfordshire Highways have told me that the road will be open on Monday, with temporary traffic lights in force from 9-4:30 for two weeks.
Originally posted by Tazz
Why does Hertford need a bypass - the A414 provides all the proof needed. Gascoyne Way in the morning rush hour can back up from the roundabout at London Road to the Hertingfordbury roundabout and again in the evening. The way in from Waterford can back up from the town centre all the way to the North Road Cemetary. Andrew is right - one road closure does not warrant a bypass, but general everyday traffic does. As to the Gallows Hill closure, the sign at the junction with Ware Road now states that the road will be closed for 4 weeks
Reply ID 31100
We shall see. Although there is a fair amount of work done, it doesn't look like they'll be able to remove the barriers by monday
Reply ID 31151
quote:There is of course a bus route from near London Road to the bottom of the hill near Presdales - perhaps if less parents felt the need to drive their children to school, then the traffic wouldn't be so bad. [}:)]
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Bloody hope not - London Road to Presdales with daughter this morning - 30 mins!!
Originally posted by Tazz
I just heard a rumour that the bottom of Stanstead Road is to be closed for another two weeks. Does anyone know if that is true?
Reply ID 31153
quote:A bus route my daughter takes most days - except said bus is often getting into Presdales late because of the current traffic chaos. Or maybe I should just let an 11 yr old walk up the dual carriageway? [:(!]
Originally posted by jez_pquote:There is of course a bus route from near London Road to the bottom of the hill near Presdales - perhaps if less parents felt the need to drive their children to school, then the traffic wouldn't be so bad. [}:)]
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Bloody hope not - London Road to Presdales with daughter this morning - 30 mins!!
Originally posted by Tazz
I just heard a rumour that the bottom of Stanstead Road is to be closed for another two weeks. Does anyone know if that is true?
Reply ID 31154
I've just had a walk past, and from my experience I would say that the carriage way will be finished within 2 days. All the kerbs and frames are in place so is needs a bit of top coat and job done. Whether the road will be open or not is another question.
Reply ID 31156
quote:Couldn't she get the earlier bus?
Originally posted by Leo Densian
A bus route my daughter takes most days - except said bus is often getting into Presdales late because of the current traffic chaos. Or maybe I should just let an 11 yr old walk up the dual carriageway? [:(!]
Reply ID 31161
quote:No
Originally posted by JohnSmithquote:Couldn't she get the earlier bus?
Originally posted by Leo Densian
A bus route my daughter takes most days - except said bus is often getting into Presdales late because of the current traffic chaos. Or maybe I should just let an 11 yr old walk up the dual carriageway? [:(!]
Reply ID 31163
quote:why?
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:No
Originally posted by JohnSmithquote:Couldn't she get the earlier bus?
Originally posted by Leo Densian
A bus route my daughter takes most days - except said bus is often getting into Presdales late because of the current traffic chaos. Or maybe I should just let an 11 yr old walk up the dual carriageway? [:(!]
Reply ID 31166
Don't think there is an earlier one going direct to Presdales
Reply ID 31168
Most bus routes to Ware and beyond have some kind of delay, due to getting caught in traffic when trying to get into Hertford. I counted 6 buses in the jam between Tesco's and the police station the other day. I agree to driving kids to school if the school is not in walking distance or on a bus route. You try getting 2 kids to school in Hertford Heath without driving
Reply ID 31254
quote:I really wish someone would answer this as it has always puzzled me! [?]Why is it always the Eastbound (Harlow direction) side that's backed up at both ends of the day, while the Westbound (Hatfield direction) flows more freely, even though it has that single lane bottleneck under the railway bridge by the Esso garage? Is it something to do with the A119 (from Stevenage) loading in Eastbound traffic? (Please, no sneering answers inviting me to get a life. [:)] If the thread doesn't interest you, move on. Nothing to see here.)
Originally posted by Tazz
What gets me is how the A414 Gascoyne Way backs up from the roundabout by London Road in the morning rush hour and again in the evening rush hour. How does this happen when all the cars went into Hertford in the morning?
Reply ID 31365
Good news........ Closure has been lifted and normal service has been resumed.