Topic ID 2568
Anyone know of anywhere locally that will be celebrating St.Georges Day (April 23rd)?
Reply ID 36872
No idea Nora but it should be celebrated like St.Patricks day and St.Andrews etc etc. Why are we the only nation that don't actually celebrate our patrons day?
Reply ID 36879
There are usually parades locally but that's about it really.
Reply ID 36880
The Hertford Club normally have some event for St George's Day.
Reply ID 36885
quote:Perhaps because we are such a diverse culture. Any true English identity has been watered down by an acceptance of immigration and emmigration. Very generally speaking the English absorb, adopt and even celebrate the integration of other cultures. The English are also a bit embarassed by it. We're happy to see other nations' colours flying in England yet we cringe if we go abroad and see an ex-pat community with the flag of union or St George flying.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Why are we the only nation that don't actually celebrate our patrons day?
Reply ID 36892
Howzabout a forum pub crawl in town? Maybe Rooster, Dobbin and pub landlord can arrange something? [:D]
Reply ID 36911
Scouts often parade on St George's Day because St. George was adopted by Baden-Powell as the patron saint of Scouting.
Reply ID 36912
Celebrating being English or even worse British is not allowed. If you celebrate the fact that you are English then you are a Racist, Nazi Thug and should be imprisoned immediately. [:P] However if you are Scottish or Irish, then that is quite alright. Or do the Scots, Welsh and Irish just cherish their heritage a little more than the English?
Reply ID 36915
There is now a mainstream, non-racist English party campaigning for an English parliament with equal powers to the Scottish Parliament. They even stood in the last Euro Elections in this area. http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/
Reply ID 36936
quote:Maybe we are just too sensible. St George is a made up saint (because we didn't have one and everybody else seemed to have) who is most famous for slaying a made up creature. The Irish celebrating St. Patrick makes even less sense, since he did exist and was responsible for the genocide of most of the indiginous population on behalf of Rome (the snakes refered to were the then "heretic" people of Ireland).
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Perhaps because we are such a diverse culture. Any true English identity has been watered down by an acceptance of immigration and emmigration. Very generally speaking the English absorb, adopt and even celebrate the integration of other cultures. The English are also a bit embarassed by it. We're happy to see other nations' colours flying in England yet we cringe if we go abroad and see an ex-pat community with the flag of union or St George flying.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Why are we the only nation that don't actually celebrate our patrons day?
Reply ID 36957
quote:If I may, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick for further reading and clarification....
Originally posted by shuntquote:Maybe we are just too sensible. St George is a made up saint (because we didn't have one and everybody else seemed to have) who is most famous for slaying a made up creature. The Irish celebrating St. Patrick makes even less sense, since he did exist and was responsible for the genocide of most of the indiginous population on behalf of Rome (the snakes refered to were the then "heretic" people of Ireland).
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Perhaps because we are such a diverse culture. Any true English identity has been watered down by an acceptance of immigration and emmigration. Very generally speaking the English absorb, adopt and even celebrate the integration of other cultures. The English are also a bit embarassed by it. We're happy to see other nations' colours flying in England yet we cringe if we go abroad and see an ex-pat community with the flag of union or St George flying.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Why are we the only nation that don't actually celebrate our patrons day?
Reply ID 36961
Uncritical acceptance of the Annals of Ulster (see below) would imply that he lived from 373 to 493, and ministered in northern Ireland from 433 onwards So St Pat was 120 yrs old.....not bad considering the average age for that era was about 44!
Reply ID 36964
quote:They have Gary Bushell on their front page. Nuff said!
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane
There is now a mainstream, non-racist English party campaigning... http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/
Reply ID 36995
quote:Yep, that's the fella.
Originally posted by Landy If I may, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick for further reading and clarification....
Reply ID 37173
quote:Seems there were 2?.....Palladius and Patrick with the 1st not necessarily on a mission to convert the Irish, but more probably intended to minister to existing Christian communities in Ireland. (quoting from Wikipedia) The second came later?
Originally posted by shuntquote:Yep, that's the fella.
Originally posted by Landy If I may, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick for further reading and clarification....
Reply ID 37179
I think the modern saint Pat is a combination of the two, as far as I can tell and somewhat lost in Catholic mythology. St George is even more confusing as he is totally fictional. Since Pat is a Catholic icon, it's curious how many Brits celebrate. On the other hand, we also make a fuss over Mother's, Father's and St Valentines days, the first two being invented by Greetings card manufacturers!
Reply ID 37181
Actually Shunt, Mother's Day, as celebrated in the UK, is derived from Mothering Sunday and it always falls on the 4th Sunday of Lent. You are however quite correct to say that the modern celebration of Mother's Day is rather different to the original intention!
Reply ID 37184
I stand corrected. It remains that most of these events are commercial opportunities. However, there's nothing wrong with that as long as people don't condemn those who need no such need of an excuse for a party and choose to ignore these celebrations. There is no national duty to acknowledge St George, but it's fun to do so, just as it is to buy mum flowers at least once a year.
Reply ID 37186
Commercial opportunities, hmmmmm! Wish we had one a month! Maybe the patron saint of Romania is worth celebrating in Hertford given the current climate?
Reply ID 37188
quote:That happens to be St Andrew, the same St Andrews who is the Patron Saint of Scotland.
Originally posted by arkwright
Commercial opportunities, hmmmmm! Wish we had one a month! Maybe the patron saint of Romania is worth celebrating in Hertford given the current climate?
Reply ID 37192
As a matter of interest, how does one celebrate St George? I haven't seen a dragon in Hertford for months and suits of armour are expensive fancy dress, even if you can borrow the horse. All that chain mail chafes summat rotton too!
Reply ID 37193
quote:Good question! Best for you thou' not to wear the chain mail.
Originally posted by shunt
As a matter of interest, how does one celebrate St George? I haven't seen a dragon in Hertford for months and suits of armour are expensive fancy dress, even if you can borrow the horse. All that chain mail chafes summat rotton too!
Reply ID 37194
quote:It is an English celebration........therefore the English get drunk.
Originally posted by shunt
As a matter of interest, how does one celebrate St George? I haven't seen a dragon in Hertford for months and suits of armour are expensive fancy dress, even if you can borrow the horse. All that chain mail chafes summat rotton too!
Reply ID 37196
quote:In that case, it seems St George is frequently celebrated!
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:It is an English celebration........therefore the English get drunk.
Originally posted by shunt
As a matter of interest, how does one celebrate St George? I haven't seen a dragon in Hertford for months and suits of armour are expensive fancy dress, even if you can borrow the horse. All that chain mail chafes summat rotton too!
Reply ID 37442
Hertford Museum is celebrating St George's Day on Saturday 21st April this year (as we don't open on the Monday). There will be free, drop-in activities for families in our activity room.
Reply ID 37448
How about a public holiday? You can vote here. http://www.stgeorgesday.com/voting.asp
Reply ID 37479
quote:There was also a petition (now closed) on the 10 Downing Street web site. I eventually got back a weasley e-mail essentially saying "no chance".
Originally posted by James007
How about a public holiday? You can vote here. http://www.stgeorgesday.com/voting.asp
Reply ID 39170
Sounds like the Governments usual reply! same as the road tax site no joy there either!
Reply ID 39196
quote:Thanks for that, maybe I'll suggest a Romanian themed day in our Street next year. Keep all options open that way. Now, let's see, what Romanian products do we have?
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:That happens to be St Andrew, the same St Andrews who is the Patron Saint of Scotland.
Originally posted by arkwright
Commercial opportunities, hmmmmm! Wish we had one a month! Maybe the patron saint of Romania is worth celebrating in Hertford given the current climate?
Reply ID 39218
I put my St.George X flag out, how many did you, is that just for football?
Reply ID 39232
quote:We were going to fly ours, but Batty Minor decided to wear it as a super hero cape...
Originally posted by Dell Boy
I put my St.George X flag out, how many did you, is that just for football?