Topic ID 2675
Can we keep tabs on this here?
Reply ID 38522
What did you have in mind?
Reply ID 38540
Well I bought my house for 240k last year and hopefully when i sell it next year it will be worth 300k+ I highly doubt it but we can all live in hope...
Reply ID 38542
quote:Just the impending economic black hole for local workers. There can't be a hope in hell for some of the younger shop and office staff to get on the property ladder here. The Mercury highlighted it today.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
What did you have in mind?
Reply ID 38546
quote:25% in one year. That's hopeful even by recent rises!
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Well I bought my house for 240k last year and hopefully when i sell it next year it will be worth 300k+ I highly doubt it but we can all live in hope...
Reply ID 38550
quote:Isn't this sort of attitude part of the problem? The "haves" relishing in their growing profit whilst the "have nots" lose sight of ever having somewhere to live.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Well I bought my house for 240k last year and hopefully when i sell it next year it will be worth 300k+ I highly doubt it but we can all live in hope...
Reply ID 38552
quote:How exactly is it part of the problem??? And are you comparing home ownership to the homeless?
Originally posted by Stevequote:Isn't this sort of attitude part of the problem? The "haves" relishing in their growing profit whilst the "have nots" lose sight of ever having somewhere to live.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Well I bought my house for 240k last year and hopefully when i sell it next year it will be worth 300k+ I highly doubt it but we can all live in hope...
Reply ID 38562
quote:Absolutely Steve. Yes, I am chuffed that having paid £68k for our house 15 yrs ago I have just seen the identical one next door change hands for the £250k asking price - buts its really all on paper unless I was contemplating moving to Doncaster or somewhere similar. However, the reality is that when my kids leave home, unless they come out of school/university and somehow land a job straight away paying about £70k or more per year they have got no chance of home ownership round here and that scares me.
Originally posted by Stevequote:Isn't this sort of attitude part of the problem? The "haves" relishing in their growing profit whilst the "have nots" lose sight of ever having somewhere to live.
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Well I bought my house for 240k last year and hopefully when i sell it next year it will be worth 300k+ I highly doubt it but we can all live in hope...
Reply ID 38637
No-one has ever explained to me why general inflation is bad ( I can understand that bit) but house price inflation is good (that's the bit I don't get).
Reply ID 38639
quote:The simple answer is, it isn't good from the social community point of view. However, since the eighties we live in a country which makes it's living in smoke and mirrors speculation, rather than manufacture. Basically, Britain buys and sell things which don't exist and turns a profit. Neat trick but confusing and reliant on investors feeling confident. The property prices all reflect an artificial bouyancy which, in turn allows successful trade in concepts. It's a bit like a bookmaker. You hand over cash and get a piece of paper which you wrote yourself. Only if you guessed correctly what to write, do you make a profit, but nothing is actually bought or sold. If you don't have the confidence that you might win, you wouldn't do it and the bookie goes bust. Damn! Now I've confused myself.[:I]
Originally posted by carlos fandango
No-one has ever explained to me why general inflation is bad ( I can understand that bit) but house price inflation is good (that's the bit I don't get).
Reply ID 38645
But you don't make a profit unless you leave the system or have the money to buy more than 1 house. eg. in 1990 i bought a house for £95,000. in 2007 I sell the house for £300,000. Profit £205,000. Now I need to find somewhere to live. Oh, shock horror. All i can afford to buy is the same house I want to sell.
Reply ID 38652
quote:Sadly, for most people, they live in the "investment". No profit in that!
Originally posted by carlos fandango
But you don't make a profit unless you leave the system or have the money to buy more than 1 house. eg. in 1990 i bought a house for £95,000. in 2007 I sell the house for £300,000. Profit £205,000. Now I need to find somewhere to live. Oh, shock horror. All i can afford to buy is the same house I want to sell.
Reply ID 38661
quote:Exactly! Its wooden dollars
Originally posted by carlos fandango
But you don't make a profit unless you leave the system or have the money to buy more than 1 house. eg. in 1990 i bought a house for £95,000. in 2007 I sell the house for £300,000. Profit £205,000. Now I need to find somewhere to live. Oh, shock horror. All i can afford to buy is the same house I want to sell.
Reply ID 38668
A useful site for what property has been sold for since 2000. http://www.houseprices.co.uk/
Reply ID 38700
quote:Yeah, it's only when you completely change your circumstances that you profit from it. That's what we're banking on for sure - we're looking to move to the States in 5 years or so and our flat will be a great investment to allow us to do that hopefully. BUt for most people in most cases it does nothing but stretch them to their financial limits.
Originally posted by carlos fandango
But you don't make a profit unless you leave the system or have the money to buy more than 1 house. eg. in 1990 i bought a house for £95,000. in 2007 I sell the house for £300,000. Profit £205,000. Now I need to find somewhere to live. Oh, shock horror. All i can afford to buy is the same house I want to sell.
Reply ID 38724
Prices in parts of the USA have been roaring ahead like here. Good luck.
Reply ID 38742
Absolutely. My own house here in the US has doubled in price in the last 8 years. Mind you, if the dollar stays weak that will help her. I don't understand how new buyers can possibly get started. Not everyone is getting paid bucket loads of money. I did read that banks will now lend up to 6x salary, but how do you handle the payments? When I bought in London 20 odd years ago I was lucky to get 2x my salary and I worked for a bank.
Reply ID 38746
I borrowed approx 4.5 times my salary to buy my flat in Bengeo 4 years ago - only one mortgage company would lend me this amount (well according to my local IFA). I don't have a lot of spare cash left over after bills, but it's manageable as I don't lust after an unnecessarily flash lifestyle. I could have bought a cheaper place elsewhere but I like Bengeo and it is within my means. Not sure I'd want to take out 6 times salary unless perhaps looking at a more risky interest-only route. If I hadn't got 'on the ladder' back then, I seriously wonder whether I would be able to now, as a first-time buyer. My flat has not risen significantly in value as far as I am aware (maybe by around £25k in the four years) but that matters not one hoot if I intend to continue living there, which I do because Bengeo's fab! :-)
Reply ID 38752
quote:Oh dear - considering that there have been over 100 lenders who have had countless products available for a very long while, it's worth noting for future reference that many of those lenders will lend on affordability, not just on income multiples, so from that point of view you were incorrectly advised. There were and still are - lots of lenders with products to suit you and your requirements.
Originally posted by SallyB
I borrowed approx 4.5 times my salary to buy my flat in Bengeo 4 years ago - only one mortgage company would lend me this amount (well according to my local IFA).
Reply ID 38765
quote:Where we will be moving to, we will be able to get something twice as big as our current place for half the cost of what we have paid for our flat. That sounds good to me [;)]
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Prices in parts of the USA have been roaring ahead like here. Good luck.
Reply ID 38779
Rewind back to 2003, 100’s of lenders basing their decision on affordability I don’t think so. The majority of lenders still used traditional income multiples regardless of affordability. It is likely, especially after assessing someone’s circumstances that there were only a handful of lenders back then (or indeed just the one) that was prepared to do an income stretch. So not sure from that point of view anyone was particularly incorrectly advised.
Reply ID 38875
Starting off on the housing market in Hertford has been a big problem for a long time. Ever since them there foreigners from the outer reaches of Hertfordshire and other strange lands started to settle here using this stuff called money. Odd concept money, these strangers from far off lands just kept using more and more of it to buy up our humble abodes and now us yocal locals cant afford live in our own town! Twitch, Twitch [;)] Seriously though the way Mr G and I got round it was to buy a mobile home on a residential site and live in that for a few years. When we sold it gave us a nice little deposit. Trouble is, there aren't as many sites around now and the prices of the homes on those that are left have also gone up, some of them cost as much as house would have a few years ago.
Reply ID 38986
I think it's about time that the Councils started investing in council housing for those less fortunate unable to buy houses, not everyone can afford or wants to buy! (yes, there are some people who do not wish to get into debt) I was one, that agreed with council house buying way back, but now I see that it was a bad move, it would have worked if the Councils put the money that they received from these purchases into re-investing in houses, but not like all fairy tales, no happy ending!
Reply ID 38987
quote:They do provide housing via registered social landlords (ie housing associations) http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=1397
Originally posted by furrybunny
I think it's about time that the Councils started investing in council housing for those less fortunate unable to buy houses, not everyone can afford or wants to buy! (yes, there are some people who do not wish to get into debt) I was one, that agreed with council house buying way back, but now I see that it was a bad move, it would have worked if the Councils put the money that they received from these purchases into re-investing in houses, but not like all fairy tales, no happy ending!
Reply ID 38993
I know that Steve, but I just feel there is not enough purpose built housing estates, like when I was growing up, I grew up on a council estate and thoughly enjoyed my childhood with lots of friends. Steve also can you enlighten me, have the councils stopped or are considering not selling off council houses, I thought they were going to cease this practice?
Reply ID 39000
Whatever happened to all the funds from the sales of council houses in the 80s?
Reply ID 39002
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Buy_Scheme "Proceeds of the sales were paid to the local authorities, but they were restricted to spending the money to reduce their debt until it was cleared, rather than being able to spend it on building more homes. The effect was to reduce the council housing stock, especially in areas where property prices were high such as London and the south-east of England." See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Buy_Scheme
Reply ID 39003
Please continue discussion about council housing at http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2711 id="green">