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17/04/2007 by jez_p

Lazy 4x4 Driver on Sele Farm

I have frequently noticed that a particular resident of a particular street on Sele Farm is so lazy that he can't walk the extra 20 yards from a parking bay to his house. I frequently see his oversized 4x4 pickup thing parked on the mud verge (used to be grass until his vehicle killed it all) rather than in the parking bays (which are never full!) Obviously this guy doesn't care as he has his website address on the back I had best not post it to protect his identity


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Reply ID 38754

17/04/2007 by hertford born and bred

You could report it to the council and they may put wooden bollards along the grass verge.


Reply ID 38755

17/04/2007 by James007

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Originally posted by hertford born and bred
You could report it to the council and they may put wooden bollards along the grass verge.
I bet they wouldn't. Herts Highways might though.


Reply ID 38760

17/04/2007 by JohnSmith

Would it be the decorator with the "fishy" name?


Reply ID 38802

18/04/2007 by jez_p

that might well be him


Reply ID 38829

19/04/2007 by Pez

He's lucky he can park in his road at all, let alone near his house. I got a parking ticket this morning for being on the single yellow line in Currie Street 10 minutes after the 8am cutoff. You'd have thought - well, I would anyway - that the warden would find it blindingly obvious that a car with cold tyres, cold engine, and condensation-covered windows would obviously have been there all night and therefore would belong to a resident who was unable to park anywhere else, and perhaps wait a bit longer before issuing a ticket, or perhaps not even patrol until after 9am, but apparently not. Such is the caring, friendly face of our local council these days. I can't park in Currie Street when I come home from work because of all the Hertfordshire Mercury workers that are still parked there at that time. And I wish I'd taken a photograph of the Herts traffic warden/community officer who parked on the same single yellow line at 9am on Tuesday to de-tank the speed camera on the corner of Currie and Ware Road. Will do next time, that's for sure..


Reply ID 38830

19/04/2007 by jez_p

Unfortunately Pez, You broke the rules and have no grounds for complaint[xx(] I got shot down on the Ware Forums for a similar parking problem in Ware a year ago. I completely understand your frustrations and sympathise with you. Especially as your car probably wasn't causing any obstructon. Another case of easy pickings for the wardens I am afraid. The afformentioned Fishy Decorator is unlikely yo get ticketed as 1. There aren't any yellow lines in H***** Close. 2. The traffic wardens never come to Sele Farm so you can park where you like anyway.


Reply ID 38831

19/04/2007 by shunt

Only conjecture, but being parked in earshot of one's vehicle alarm is an essential for tradesmen, assuming they want to still have any drills, sanders, vacuum cleaners etc. to go to work with next day. It doesn't sound an ideal parking spot, admittedly. Is it obstructing anything? If so, you might get it moved on those grounds. If it's just obscuring your view of a patch of grass, you'd have to check local bylaws. That it's a 4x4 is not an issue. Many tradesmen use them because they are multi-purpose, have high legal load capacity and are able to to access un-made-up new developements. What you feel is right to do next depends on how much it bothers you and why.


Reply ID 38833

19/04/2007 by JohnSmith

Here it is in it's usual place. http://home.btconnect.com/har130/images/pic013.jpg Basically, he puts two wheels up on the grass verge and has effectively killed off the grass. Parking where he does is no closer to his house than the parking bays just in front of where it is parked.


Reply ID 38834

19/04/2007 by 2929paul

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Originally posted by shunt
Only conjecture, but being parked in earshot of one's vehicle alarm is an essential for tradesmen, assuming they want to still have any drills, sanders, vacuum cleaners etc. to go to work with next day. It doesn't sound an ideal parking spot, admittedly. Is it obstructing anything? If so, you might get it moved on those grounds. If it's just obscuring your view of a patch of grass, you'd have to check local bylaws. That it's a 4x4 is not an issue. Many tradesmen use them because they are multi-purpose, have high legal load capacity and are able to to access un-made-up new developements. What you feel is right to do next depends on how much it bothers you and why.
Keeping within earshot of the alarm seems like a waste of time. By the time you've reacted, jumped out of the armchair and out the front door, shouting abuse at some urchin, they're on their way, electric tools in hand and off to the nearest car boot sale (or wherever.) My prejudiced guess is he's probably just another lazy and selfish individual.


Reply ID 38835

19/04/2007 by maggie

quote:
My prejudiced guess is he's probably just another lazy and selfish individual.
Well the type of car tells you most of what you need to know. 4x4 macho pickup - basically saying F**K You!


Reply ID 38837

19/04/2007 by shunt

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Originally posted by maggie
quote:
My prejudiced guess is he's probably just another lazy and selfish individual.
Well the type of car tells you most of what you need to know. 4x4 macho pickup - basically saying F**K You!
Everything OK then if it were a Nissan Micra? Oh come on......[:D]


Reply ID 38838

19/04/2007 by exiled_in_Reading

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Originally posted by maggie
quote:
My prejudiced guess is he's probably just another lazy and selfish individual.
Well the type of car tells you most of what you need to know. 4x4 macho pickup - basically saying F**K You!
eh?


Reply ID 38839

19/04/2007 by maggie

Like it or not, choice of cars reflect the personality of their owner. How many Nissan Micras are driven by tattoed shaven headed men? How many old ladies drive 4x4 pickups. Think about it.


Reply ID 38840

19/04/2007 by Deveraux

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Originally posted by maggie
Like it or not, choice of cars reflect the personality of their owner. How many Nissan Micras are driven by tattoed shaven headed men? How many old ladies drive 4x4 pickups. Think about it.
How many old ladies are painters and decorators?


Reply ID 38841

19/04/2007 by shunt

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Originally posted by maggie
Like it or not, choice of cars reflect the personality of their owner. How many Nissan Micras are driven by tattoed shaven headed men? How many old ladies drive 4x4 pickups. Think about it.
By that method of identification, I'm a fat Texas oil worker or farmer and my partner is a middle-aged Golf Club Businessman and one of my friends(who is a tattooed and bald classical pianist) is a little old lady who's also possessed of a yob attitude. Perhaps I should go buy me a shotgun and an ol' brown dawg so I fit your generalisation.[;)]


Reply ID 38842

19/04/2007 by Steve

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Originally posted by shunt
By that method of identification, I'm a fat Texas oil worker or farmer and my partner is a middle-aged Golf Club Businessman and one of my friends(who is a tattooed and bald classical pianist) is a little old lady who's also possessed of a yob attitude. Perhaps I should go buy me a shotgun and an ol' brown dawg so I fit your generalisation.[;)]
Amazing - that's EXACTLY how I imagined you [:D]


Reply ID 38846

19/04/2007 by shunt

OK. So this "shaved head", "tattoed", "painter and decorator" who's named after a "fish" and drives satan's own vehicle of the apocolypse, has committed the foul crime against humanity to have parked on a bit of grass. Plainly the only solution is to drag him out of bed at four in the morning an string him up, throwing his family onto the street. You know it makes sense, otherwise he'll only bring down the good name of the neighbourhood. (Only joking Cletus) Does anybody actually know this guy, or is everybody just condemning blindly out of their own prejudice? Is he really so scary that nobody (nobody who gives a damn, that is) is prepared to ask?


Reply ID 38847

19/04/2007 by JohnSmith

In this day & age, confrontation with someone that you don't know is not the best way to deal with problems.


Reply ID 38848

19/04/2007 by maggie

He has an off road vehicle - he is simply proving the point by parking off road! (by the way how many painters and decorators need to traverse a mountain range to get to work? Surely a van would do the job)


Reply ID 38849

19/04/2007 by James007

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Originally posted by maggie
Like it or not, choice of cars reflect the personality of their owner. How many Nissan Micras are driven by tattoed shaven headed men? How many old ladies drive 4x4 pickups. Think about it.
Maggie, beware. Shunt has the biggest pick-up this side of The Far South. [:D]


Reply ID 38850

19/04/2007 by maggie

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Maggie, beware. Shunt has the biggest pick-up this side of The Far South. [:D]
Squeal Piggy Squeal![}:)]


Reply ID 38851

19/04/2007 by DCI monkfish

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Originally posted by JohnSmith
Here it is in it's usual place. http://home.btconnect.com/har130/images/pic013.jpg Basically, he puts two wheels up on the grass verge and has effectively killed off the grass. Parking where he does is no closer to his house than the parking bays just in front of where it is parked.
Until I saw the picture I assumed this bloke was driving across a large area of grass churning it all up. Its just a small patch hidden behind someone's fence with pleanty of other greenery around it - not in front of someone's front door.


Reply ID 38857

20/04/2007 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
quote:
Originally posted by maggie
Like it or not, choice of cars reflect the personality of their owner. How many Nissan Micras are driven by tattoed shaven headed men? How many old ladies drive 4x4 pickups. Think about it.
By that method of identification, I'm a fat Texas oil worker or farmer and my partner is a middle-aged Golf Club Businessman and one of my friends(who is a tattooed and bald classical pianist) is a little old lady who's also possessed of a yob attitude. Perhaps I should go buy me a shotgun and an ol' brown dawg so I fit your generalisation.[;)]
Do you wear a stetson??


Reply ID 38865

20/04/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by maggie
He has an off road vehicle - he is simply proving the point by parking off road! (by the way how many painters and decorators need to traverse a mountain range to get to work? Surely a van would do the job)
I drive a very large vehicle because it's the only thing that will carry heavy items of 9 ft long. It's 2wd because I don't need 4wd. As an ex-contractor myself, there are few vehicles, commonly for sale in UK, which combine high load capacity, the ability to double as a family car and able to access an incomplete building site in winter, other than 4X4. Using a 4x4 purely to take kids to school is wasteful because of the extra drag caused by the transmission and the weight, but I'd say that it's a legitimate choice for a tradesman rather than buying a van and a car. One shouldn't get bogged down by car manufacturer's political hype, designed to make us do the most un-green thing of all (buy a new car). How the vehicle is used, it's age, and whether it is appropriate for the task makes far more difference to the environment than the type of vehicle.


Reply ID 38869

20/04/2007 by jez_p

There are some legitimate reasons for having large vehicles and 4x4 vehicles, but parking on the verge opposite your flat front door when there are plenty of parking bays 20 yards away is just lazy (The bays are 20 yards from the verge, but only a couple yards further from the guy's front door) Even worse, today there were 2 cars parked in the loading bay by the Sele Co-Op (presumably they couldn't find a parking bay because of the roadworks)the delivery lorry therefore had to park in the road opposite the bus stop - couple this with a bus stopped at the stop and no entry into Tudor Way then you get traffic chaos because some pepole are too lazy to walk from the very nearby car park in calton avenue. If you are the culprits - YOU LAZY SELFISH GITS!!!


Reply ID 38870

20/04/2007 by Mr P

jez_p: if he has a parking bay/can park in a parking bay then yes, agreed, he is being lazy; not to mention narrowing a road. Maggie, having a 4x4 does not mean that he needs to be taken out and shot and his 4x4 burnt on a pyre while 4x4-hating people dance around the flames in celebration (clothing optional[;)]). Have you considered that your vehicular predjudice needs to be addressed just as much as his choice of parking location? I drive a 4x4. I need it because in the course of work I go down farm tracks, load up the back till you can't see out, can car pool for up to 6 passengers at a time and save friends and family (one of which is sans car) the expense of hiring a larger vehicle for moving stuff around. A smaller car would be useless to our independent and collective needs. I am also affected by the Duncombe school parents who use 4x4's for a task that a smaller car would have no difficulty in managing. Yes, there are too many 4x4's on the roads, however, some of us actually use ours for the purpose they were designed for. PS: shunt, fancy meeting up for some tobacco-chewin', banjo-playin', squirrel-stew-eatin', shotgun-shootin', small-car-driver-lynchin', femur-huntin' fun? Yee-haw! Hot-diggety, ahm aaal fired urp nay-ow![:D][:D][:D] PPS: I think my personality would be best reflected by an Aston Martin...<wistful sigh>


Reply ID 38873

20/04/2007 by shunt

I'm pleased that jez-p has brought us back to the original parking point, rather than the 4x4 thing. I get a lot of stick for my vehicle amouting to almost lynch-mob hatred, but as an active environmental campaigner, it was not a whimsical choice. 2ltr Transits show better fuel figures on the tests when empty, but when loaded use almost double the fuel my 7.3ltr uses and emit almost 5 times the particular pollution. I researched this quite carefully before buying.


Reply ID 38877

20/04/2007 by maggie

I appreciate that it is dangerous to generalise about the types of people that drive certain types of car - but then again have you ever seen a courteous BMW driver for example? (Cue lots of people saying they drive a BMW but are courteous - it's only a company car etc etc - that's the trouble with generalising - everyone thinks they are the exception...)


Reply ID 38884

20/04/2007 by James007

You should be a politician Maggie. That was the worst possible 'get out jail card' I've seen dealt ever. Great entertainment though.


Reply ID 38887

20/04/2007 by maggie

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Originally posted by James007
You should be a politician Maggie. That was the worst possible 'get out jail card' I've seen dealt ever. Great entertainment though.
A politician called Maggie? Now there's a thought![;)]


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