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22/06/2007 by warren_peace

Would you ?Should we ?

Ive been looking at a property on Railway St, just opposite the pub in its own courtyard, you wouldn't know it was there. I remember there was a taxi rank opposite the carpet shop and halfords, which bothers me but also , being in the centre of town, well would you ? We are a family of 4, me , Mrs and two kids under 10. What say you wise and handsome people ?


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Reply ID 41916

22/06/2007 by sloopjohnb

If this is the property I am thinking of on the corner of Railway Street and Bircherley Green it has no parking space, nor any allocated parking space, not any likelihood of parking space; only a small concession for a brief period of time (if it can be renegotiated). If you don't have a car, no problem. On the other hand bollards will shortly be going in at this junction which will help make the area bit more pedestrian friendly.


Reply ID 41917

22/06/2007 by shaun

You may have fun getting in and out of the courtyard on a Saturday if it's where I think it is. Just to check which pub is it opposite?


Reply ID 41922

22/06/2007 by shunt

I know it well. It's a great property, beautifully re-furbished by a meticulous company. It is, however not easy to sell and won't ever be. The lack of parking is the obvious de-valuer, but there are also issues of shared areas with shops, which have lead to disputes over rubbish bins etc. It is otherwise, tops for chic town-center dwelling, if that is a lifestyle which would suit you. More of a luxury batchelor pad, than a family home perhaps?


Reply ID 41923

22/06/2007 by Steve

Aren't these the s****y new flats behind The Snug and Roberto Gerrard?


Reply ID 41926

22/06/2007 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Aren't these the s****y new flats behind The Snug and Roberto Gerrard?
I think it is opposite the pub and accessed via a gate on Railway street. If it is the one I am think of it has been on the market for a very long time and I think the price has dropped to reflect the difficulty in selling. You will know what your children need better than I do, but with a child under 10 myself I would not buy that house. There is very little outside space for them. I concur with the post that said it was more of a batchelor pad.


Reply ID 41928

22/06/2007 by Tigger

If it's the one I'm thinking of that has been on the market for a while I have never been able to place it's exact location. Off for a wander I think.


Reply ID 41930

22/06/2007 by sloopjohnb

As warren_peace says you wouldn't know it was there. Tucked in its own courtyard bounded by and disguised by Retail Therapy, Loftcat and the loading bay by the car park entrance to Bircherley Green.


Reply ID 41936

22/06/2007 by Ewoowar

Hertford has a number of odd locations like this. There are the small, modern houses tucked away off Bull Plain, opposite the Hertford Club. There are the houses down the access road next to Bairstow Eves. There is the house down the side of Ask Pizza. I think the house Warren_Peace is referring to is the most hidden though.


Reply ID 41938

22/06/2007 by DCI monkfish

Any chance of a photo of the well hidden house?


Reply ID 41945

22/06/2007 by Tigger

quote:
Originally posted by DCI monkfish
Any chance of a photo of the well hidden house?
If it is the one I am thinking of, check Shephers current properties in the Mercury.


Reply ID 41948

22/06/2007 by Leo Densian

It looks fantastic, but its a case of 'Location Location Location'. I certainly wouldn't pay £425k to live opposite the Duncombe Arms. With 4 bedrooms I don't exactly see it as a batchelor pad either.


Reply ID 41951

22/06/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Leo Densian
It looks fantastic, but its a case of 'Location Location Location'. I certainly wouldn't pay £425k to live opposite the Duncombe Arms. With 4 bedrooms I don't exactly see it as a batchelor pad either.
It depends who you have installed in the four bedrooms.[}:)]


Reply ID 41953

22/06/2007 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
I know it well. It's a great property, beautifully re-furbished by a meticulous company. It is, however not easy to sell and won't ever be. The lack of parking is the obvious de-valuer, but there are also issues of shared areas with shops, which have lead to disputes over rubbish bins etc. It is otherwise, tops for chic town-center dwelling, if that is a lifestyle which would suit you. More of a luxury batchelor pad, than a family home perhaps?
ditto [:)]


Reply ID 41954

23/06/2007 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
quote:
Originally posted by Leo Densian
It looks fantastic, but its a case of 'Location Location Location'. I certainly wouldn't pay £425k to live opposite the Duncombe Arms. With 4 bedrooms I don't exactly see it as a batchelor pad either.
It depends who you have installed in the four bedrooms.[}:)]
Bit of wishful thinking there I reckon...


Reply ID 41955

23/06/2007 by Frankie

Is this the place that was Offices and Design Studio in the late 80s early 90s.


Reply ID 41958

23/06/2007 by Kitty Kat

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Aren't these the s****y new flats behind The Snug and Roberto Gerrard?
They are not flats - 4 bed town houses I think! Also, not ****ty, have you been inside - very nicely done[:)]


Reply ID 41959

23/06/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Aren't these the s****y new flats behind The Snug and Roberto Gerrard?
They are not flats - 4 bed town houses I think! Also, not ****ty, have you been inside - very nicely done[:)]
I think you've misinterpreted the "censored" word - it was in fact s-w-a-n-k-y


Reply ID 41963

23/06/2007 by Kitty Kat

Oh - sorry! That's censorship for you hey?!


Reply ID 41966

23/06/2007 by furrybunny

Whoa! no way, remember, Hertford really buzzes On Friday and Saturday, you cananot ask the neighbours to turn down the volumn!!!


Reply ID 41968

23/06/2007 by James007

Well I think the décor and intrinsically developed areas are supuoib. Asking price? Not what I would pay, even in Mayfair. Where's the underground parking for the DB5? [V]


Reply ID 41970

24/06/2007 by maggie

I think I would find it claustrophobic if I lived there - feeling 'walled in'. There can't be much natural light and no views can there? Or garden for that matter. Do your kids a favour and look elsewhere. For that price I'm sure you could get a nice house in a nicer location with a decent garden. When you are buying a house, you should always think of how easy it would be for you to sell it...


Reply ID 41995

25/06/2007 by Drama Queen

Surely, I must be a bit stupid here, but surely YOU, your family and children should come to the conclusion as to whether you can live in the Centre of busy thriving night-life filled town and want to live in the property, not ask forum members what they like, they aren't going to have the same tastes or needs!...I myself think you either like a place or you don't.. if you don't keep looking... if it ticks all the boxes for you and your family great, if it doesn't keep looking..


Reply ID 42019

25/06/2007 by shaun

quote:
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Surely, I must be a bit stupid here, but surely YOU, your family and children should come to the conclusion as to whether you can live in the Centre of busy thriving night-life filled town and want to live in the property, not ask forum members what they like, they aren't going to have the same tastes or needs!...I myself think you either like a place or you don't.. if you don't keep looking... if it ticks all the boxes for you and your family great, if it doesn't keep looking..
Nothing wrong with asking around,but would hope the final decision would be their own!


Reply ID 42029

26/06/2007 by warren_peace

I used, sorry me and the missus used to live off Bull Plain, its a place called Odd Fellows Court, great location and really quite quiet. In response to you, Drama Queen (living up to type aren't you ;-) ) Im gathering evidence, its what you do before forking out almost half a mill to move down. I have found out more here than what ANY estate agent would give up.Thanks.Its is a really attractive property isn't it.But yeah, parking a problem, bins a problem.Any more advice ?Appreciated, it really is,thanks.


Reply ID 42030

26/06/2007 by Drama Queen

That's a bit unfair Mr Peace. Your original post didn't say " I am gathering information" at all in it - have a look, you asked "what do you think?" When you ask a question like that it begs for an answer.. I gave it.. so, did others, what's your beef?


Reply ID 42033

26/06/2007 by maggie

How about this house instead? Town centre location, Garage, Garden, Parking, 4 Beds... Ok it is opposite the railway - but still probably quieter than the one you are looking at? http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-15785072.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy and no - I am not the owner or an estate agent before you ask...


Reply ID 42035

26/06/2007 by warren_peace

Thanks Maggie, Ive got that one on my radar too. I know its a risky thing but I can't get the other house off myb radar, hence every bit of "information" usefull.So are peoples opinions , especially when Ive been away for so long. Chill out Mrs Drama Queen,Im a lovely , lovely man who has no beef with anybody.If I had Id tell you so.In a really constructive way.


Reply ID 42041

26/06/2007 by sloopjohnb

If you email me through my profile can possibly put you in touch with someone who can tell you all about this property.


Reply ID 42045

26/06/2007 by warren_peace

Have done sloopjohnb


Reply ID 42068

26/06/2007 by Marilyn

Had look today and am I right is the back wall of the house the side wall of the yard to Loftcat?


Reply ID 42075

26/06/2007 by James007

Who owns that area?


Reply ID 42084

27/06/2007 by warren_peace

I think it is by the loftcat, no idea who owns it , the area that is. But it is becoming a war of attrition between the parking and shared ownership issues.


Reply ID 42109

27/06/2007 by James007

I wouldn't bother then. There are other places if you have that sort of money. However, if town centre noise you want... go for it.


Reply ID 42111

27/06/2007 by warren_peace

Aye James, its a magnet to me tho.. It can't be that noisy ;-)


Reply ID 42114

27/06/2007 by James007

Believe me, if your magnet is noise, you'll love it.


Reply ID 42119

27/06/2007 by Drama Queen

Remember you are right slap bang opposite the Duncombe Arms and The Snug.. the taxi rank where all the revellers wait for the taxis and people queuing up to get money out of Barclays cash point.. its noisy all right!


Reply ID 42126

27/06/2007 by warren_peace

Even with earplugs in ?


Reply ID 42128

27/06/2007 by steven

Yes [:)] Don't forget market day when the stallholders will be out with metal poles from 5am, you'll hear all that too no doubt.


Reply ID 42137

27/06/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by warren_peace
Even with earplugs in ?
You really want this house, don't you?! [:D]


Reply ID 42138

27/06/2007 by James007

I get that feeling too Shunt


Reply ID 42144

27/06/2007 by maggie

It sounds to me a bit like when you want a new car that you really can't quite justify having but you have taken it for a drive and you are in love with it. Just think to yourself once you have bought it, it might not seem so appealling. You will begin to notice niggly things that need doing. The noise might start to annoy you. Th elack of view. The lack of parking. The lack of garden etc. The fact that you are asking people's opinion means you are not sure. If you are not sure the best thing to do is walk away. (In my opinion anyway). But it's up to you (and your wife!) at the end of the day.


Reply ID 42193

28/06/2007 by warren_peace

Its getting daft now, was even thinking about buying another place near, renting it, just for the car park space. I wonder if the owner would let me stay in it for the weekend ? Got used to the market when living in Bulls Plain, had a generator outside my house pumping away all last night, felt nowt.Saying that,it was at the front of the house, we sleep at the back. It IS a shared house option for young commuters isn't it really ? I suspect many shared access problems , parking is a legend, major rumpus at the weekends,bins a problem,shop alarms a problem, no garden as such,not exactly a bargain really. I think I'll arrange a viewing.


Reply ID 42198

28/06/2007 by shaun

Sounds as though the decision is already made really, just wanting a damn good reason not to do it now [:)]


Reply ID 42201

28/06/2007 by shunt

I actually sympathise with warren-peace on this one. I also really like this house. It's significant that, though I've known about it from before the restoration started, I haven't bought it. If I could have found any way to justify it's purchase, either as a home or an investment, I would have done.


Reply ID 42207

28/06/2007 by warren_peace

Thers plenty of those Shaun. Mesmerising almost isn't it Mr Hunt ? Like you I have that inhibition about it. Considering the amount of money & commitment involved shame there isn't a try before you buy. I wish something else would come on the market that would blow it away...


Reply ID 42209

28/06/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by warren_peace
Thers plenty of those Shaun. Mesmerising almost isn't it Mr Hunt ? Like you I have that inhibition about it. Considering the amount of money & commitment involved shame there isn't a try before you buy. I wish something else would come on the market that would blow it away...
I've come to the conclusion that what I want is this house, but with a proper access. They aren't many of those at any price which also have a central location (good for social development of older kids and teenagers).


Reply ID 42314

02/07/2007 by Bengeobabe

we looked at this house. it is fantastically done out, but with a young child, the noise, the parking problem (although Shepherds will tell you there is a potential parking solution - renting a space off the owners at another property the other side of Fore Street - very convenient!) we decided against it. It may be the "perfect property" but if you've got to walk through vomit stains to get to your front door, get knocked over by passers by leaving your front door, and can't sleep all night because of the noise from pubs, the novelty will soon wear off. The price keeps being lowered, to reflect the fact that they can't sell. And you have to ask yourself why noone else has bought it. Still, it's your decision at the end of the day!! (Also, aren't the bathrooms in odd locations? can't remember it exactly, but i've got a feeling there are only ensuites, no "normal" bathroom. Although I could have got it mixed up with another house - we saw so many!!


Reply ID 42329

02/07/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Bengeobabe Also, aren't the bathrooms in odd locations? can't remember it exactly, but i've got a feeling there are only ensuites, no "normal" bathroom.
Not so uncommon these days and the disadvantage is often missed by purchasers until they realise that visitors will all pass through your bedroom for a pee. Hide that gimp mask![:D]


Reply ID 42410

05/07/2007 by warren_peace

Thinking long and hard about this, much better options though I will always envy the person that can buy this place without having given it as much thought. For about 10 minutes.


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