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Topic ID 3349

25/01/2008 by btj

dbs desira closing

just seen low loaders removing vehicles from the ware road car dealership


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Reply ID 48276

25/01/2008 by Frenchie

Does it say closing ? - More flats to follow, merging the Hertford/Ware boundaries...


Reply ID 48277

25/01/2008 by Steve

They went into administration on 15th January. It was reported in last week's Mercury.


Reply ID 48280

25/01/2008 by btj

i bought a vehicle from them last september.where do i stand in regards to warranty services etc?


Reply ID 48283

25/01/2008 by btj

just heard from a good source. they want to build an indian restaurant on the site


Reply ID 48286

26/01/2008 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by btj
just heard from a good source. they want to build an indian restaurant on the site
Really btj? That would be fantastic. I cannot wait!!


Reply ID 48287

26/01/2008 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by btj
just heard from a good source. they want to build an indian restaurant on the site
What is "a good source"? Who are "they"?


Reply ID 48299

26/01/2008 by thorny

Perhaps it came from a good sauce...[:)]


Reply ID 48306

27/01/2008 by Marilyn

There are various stories going around about the site, I think we just have to wait and see!


Reply ID 48308

27/01/2008 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by btj
i bought a vehicle from them last september.where do i stand in regards to warranty services etc?
Most used car warranties are insured type, not operated by the dealer directly. Check the warranty documents to see who operates yours. If it stipulates that you must use the dealer's service facilities, give them a call.


Reply ID 48365

28/01/2008 by Spear

If it was a new Fiat you will have to go an approved agent, the nearest is now Bishops Stortford.


Reply ID 48370

29/01/2008 by Jackanapes

The warranty is with FIAT not your dealer. You can get it warranty serviced at any FIAT dealer (I think). Glyn Hopkin has opened up a new FIAT dealership between Hatfield and St Albans as well as the one in Bishops Stortford. http://www.glynhopkinfiat.co.uk/locations.html?AutoLocateID=164B903507EFA0C2407142EF


Reply ID 48613

31/01/2008 by dannul

I don't seem to have much luck with car dealerships! Charvills went belly-up just before I was going to purchase from them. Now, having bought a car from DBS and it needing its 3rd year 'warranty' service to be done this month, I see they've gone into receivership! I think Motorsales in Harlow is probably the nearest FIAT dealership to Hertford/Ware now.


Reply ID 48614

31/01/2008 by btj

it is a pain.but i was told you dont have to dannul


Reply ID 48618

31/01/2008 by dannul

quote:
Originally posted by btj
it is a pain.but i was told you dont have to dannul
I will have to investigate further. However, the 3rd year dealer warranty is actually part of the original warranty package as purchased with the car so it might not be so clear-cut. I know the EU say you can go to any garage so long as they use genuine parts, but how do you know? What happens if you subsequently return to a FIAT dealership (say for the more obscure warranty work) and it is found that the previous garage you used had popped into Unipart/Halfords and used an own-brand oil filter (for example) - I bet FIAT will probably void the warranty there and then! Sorry if I sound paranoid!


Reply ID 48625

01/02/2008 by Joby

Heard a dbs desira advert on Hertbeat this morning, odd considering this thread...


Reply ID 48626

01/02/2008 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Joby
Heard a dbs desira advert on Hertbeat this morning, odd considering this thread...
Probably pre-bought and pre-paid.


Reply ID 48661

01/02/2008 by Spear

I think you'll find Fiat Motorsales in Harlow isn't there anymore.


Reply ID 48668

01/02/2008 by Rooster

There is a Notice of Receivership in the legal notices of the Mercury today for DBS Desira.


Reply ID 48743

02/02/2008 by btj

dannul i think you are right to feel like that. who knows what parts they are using.


Reply ID 48761

03/02/2008 by dannul

quote:
Originally posted by Spear
I think you'll find Fiat Motorsales in Harlow isn't there anymore.
Funny that their website is advertising the new FIAT 500, then! (launched 21st January 2008)......


Reply ID 48772

04/02/2008 by Spear

Sorry got that wrong, someone told me they had gone and when I did a search for the nearest dealer they didn't show up - they do now.


Reply ID 49702

27/02/2008 by Marilyn

I have heard there is a planning application going in for the site, keep your eye peeled!


Reply ID 49828

29/02/2008 by Kitty Kat

Maybe it's for a temporary supermarket [:D]


Reply ID 49838

01/03/2008 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
Maybe it's for a temporary supermarket [:D]
I had the same thought [:D] but no I belive it may be housing, we will have to wait and see, looking out for the planning application to go on line, not found it yet.


Reply ID 49896

03/03/2008 by Dude

Flats, flats and more flats?


Reply ID 49906

03/03/2008 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Flats, flats and more flats?
Possible we will see when the application is on line!


Reply ID 49908

03/03/2008 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Flats, flats and more flats?
From FIATS to FLATS? [:D]


Reply ID 49915

03/03/2008 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by aubend
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Flats, flats and more flats?
From FIATS to FLATS? [:D]
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Reply ID 52598

23/05/2008 by Old Charm

Noticed today (Friday 23rd) workmen putting up boarding all round the perimeter of Desira/F.Greens old garage in Ware Road. Looks as if the site is ripe for redevelopment?


Reply ID 52599

23/05/2008 by Kitty Kat

Site has been sold and expect to see a planning application for housing some time soon!


Reply ID 52600

23/05/2008 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
Site has been sold and expect to see a planning application for housing some time soon!
Does that mean you have bought the site?


Reply ID 52601

23/05/2008 by Kitty Kat

ha ha ha ha - I wish I had that kind of money! No - just the word on the street [8D]


Reply ID 52625

26/05/2008 by Marilyn

I have head there was a break in last week, no idea what they thought they would find! I am also told the demolishion team is due in the next 2 weeks, not seen a planning application as yet though.


Reply ID 52630

26/05/2008 by Steve

Strictly speaking, the boarding needs planning permission. Personally I think it's quite unsightly.


Reply ID 52631

26/05/2008 by Kitty Kat

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Strictly speaking, the boarding needs planning permission. Personally I think it's quite unsightly.
I am yet to see an attractive hoarding at a building site. Better to be all boarded for when demolition starts than have bits of rubble flying over the road. I'm sure it will be painted a fetching colour eventually!


Reply ID 52632

26/05/2008 by Steve

But the [rumoured] demolition doesn't have planning permission either!


Reply ID 52633

26/05/2008 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
But the [rumoured] demolition doesn't have planning permission either!
Thats interesting as I had not seen any planning permission for demolition but was told they had it so just thought I had missed it. I have an interest in this site for various reasons so want to keep a close eye on what is happening! If the hoardings go right round it will be very difficult to get in and out of the next door properties inc SAM centre/ Bentleys/ Roy Carter etc. as the vision up Ware Road will be blocked.


Reply ID 52635

26/05/2008 by burmilla_turbo

quote:
Originally posted by Marilyn
I have head there was a break in last week, no idea what they thought they would find!
usually empty places like this are broken into in search of copper pipes, cables or any other metals as scrap prices are right up at the moment.


Reply ID 52636

26/05/2008 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
But the [rumoured] demolition doesn't have planning permission either!
Yeah - but as we know, buildings have a habit of demolishing themselves in Hertford [;)]


Reply ID 53055

23/06/2008 by Marilyn

I understand it is being taken down, no idea if that is with our without planning or even if it has been sold to developers, in the current climate I doubt much will happen very quickly!


Reply ID 53065

24/06/2008 by bikeman

These are the people doing the demolishing and here is a list of some of their clients, so flats or a supermarket seem the most possible. http://www.materialsmovement.co.uk/clifrm.htm


Reply ID 53066

24/06/2008 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by bikeman
These are the people doing the demolishing and here is a list of some of their clients, so flats or a supermarket seem the most possible. http://www.materialsmovement.co.uk/clifrm.htm
Given the current housing market I would be surprised if a developer would be interested in the site.


Reply ID 53068

24/06/2008 by bikeman

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by bikeman
These are the people doing the demolishing and here is a list of some of their clients, so flats or a supermarket seem the most possible. http://www.materialsmovement.co.uk/clifrm.htm
Given the current housing market I would be surprised if a developer would be interested in the site.
My guess is a Sainsbury's Local.


Reply ID 53069

24/06/2008 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by bikeman
These are the people doing the demolishing and here is a list of some of their clients, so flats or a supermarket seem the most possible. http://www.materialsmovement.co.uk/clifrm.htm
Given the current housing market I would be surprised if a developer would be interested in the site.
That would depend on the price. When the buying public is bullishly confident, property developers sell. When the public are all panicking and running round like headless chickens, they buy. It's the opposite of property investors, who hold existing portfolios and borrow against appreciation. Some will be able to sit on a property which is now generating no income and others will be forced to bring development plans forward. Whichever way, the one thing that doesn't generate income is a stable market. The money is made in the fluctuations.


Reply ID 53091

25/06/2008 by Kitty Kat

I believe the site owners are going to put in a planning application for flats/houses and then try to sell to a developer. Land with approval is worth more than a site without any planning at all Just what we need, a few more flats [8D]


Reply ID 53359

09/07/2008 by Marilyn

The buildings have now all gone, not sure they had permission to demolish but as ever it is too late now..............


Reply ID 53361

09/07/2008 by codek2

do you really need planning permission to demolish buildings that are not listed? Are you sure??? Thats insane if it's true.! I can understand requiring permission for the boarding or any other big alterations e.g. change of use of course. I can also understand having to comply with regulations for demolition, but again, not full planning permission?


Reply ID 53365

09/07/2008 by Marilyn

I think you do these days, you used to be able to take the roof off to make it unusable but now you can't as I understand it it is all to do with the owner having to pay business rates on empty properties once they have been empty for 3 to 6 months depending on the type of use. You have to notify them before you do it, so it is a form of permission you need. http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=5977


Reply ID 53366

09/07/2008 by SMT

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
do you really need planning permission to demolish buildings that are not listed? Are you sure??? Thats insane if it's true.! I can understand requiring permission for the boarding or any other big alterations e.g. change of use of course. I can also understand having to comply with regulations for demolition, but again, not full planning permission?
Demolition does not GENERALLY require planning permission, but there are more details at the following link:- http://www.planning-applications.co.uk/domesticpd4.htm#demolition


Reply ID 53379

10/07/2008 by codek2

ah i see ok thanks for enlightening me! it's not like thats a useful piece of information for me though, i dont have an ulterior motive and am not trying to knock down my own bit of hertford :)


Reply ID 53391

10/07/2008 by bikeman

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
ah i see ok thanks for enlightening me! it's not like thats a useful piece of information for me though, i dont have an ulterior motive and am not trying to knock down my own bit of hertford :)
I am sure I saw you in the hardware shop buying a sledge hammer[;)]


Reply ID 54303

06/08/2008 by Marilyn

Now all the buildings have gone a few walls are left as the services etc have not been disconnected surely they should not have demolished until that was sorted out?


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