Topic ID 3588
Does anyone know here I can get a special pass that allows me to park in the Set Down Area outside Tesco. I know they must be available because a few people seem to have them. [;)]
Reply ID 52424
You don't need a special pass........you just need to drive a big f**k off 4x4, a BMW or Mercedes. Alternatively a Fire Engine or Police Car
Reply ID 52425
quote:Instead of fire engine I think you mean ambulance buzz - the fire engine gets to park in the bus stop [}:)] Of course if you happen to own a security van that allows you special priviledges to exclusively park on the paved area outside the store preventing anyone getting to the trollies.
Originally posted by buzz Alternatively a Fire Engine or Police Car
Reply ID 52427
And where else are you suggesting a fire engine park? In a normal bay?
Reply ID 52433
quote:Does it really make a difference if you are parked there waiting for 5 minutes, or going inside the shop for 5 minutes? As long as it isn't a full weeks shopping I can't see the problem.
Originally posted by Steve
Does anyone know here I can get a special pass that allows me to park in the Set Down Area outside Tesco. I know they must be available because a few people seem to have them. [;)]
Reply ID 52434
But it is very interesting that they are, as Buzz points out, usually very expensive cars. Why? Any sociologists out there?
Reply ID 52435
Quote - Does it really make a difference if you are parked there waiting for 5 minutes, or going inside the shop for 5 minutes? As long as it isn't a full weeks shopping I can't see the problem. It does if there is an emergency and an ambulance needs to get to the door cause you think you're in there for five minutes but you won't be with the normal queue's and the store won't be able to find you to move your car. Its just selfish because if everyone who wanted to go inside for five minutes parked in the set down area then you wouldn't be able to get in the car park, normal people park in a bay. Its just the same as the rude people who park in the disabled bays and child bays when they don't have a child or a disability, so annoying!!
Reply ID 52437
quote:Parent and Child bays - must take Mother with me next time ...
Originally posted by Earthmother Its just the same as the rude people who park in the disabled bays and child bays when they don't have a child or a disability, so annoying!!
Reply ID 52438
quote:Why should a fire engine be there in the first place? It's an emergency vehicle not a large shopping trolley for firemen
Originally posted by Emma
And where else are you suggesting a fire engine park? In a normal bay?
Reply ID 52439
quote:If you've got money, you ain't going to be using Tesco for anything but a convenience;- paper, fags, cash machine or something that got forgotten. Proper shopping will be done elsewhere. Also, unless you've a Fiat 500, a child, or a blue badge, parking in a parking space traps you in the car and if you do get the doors open, your doors will be dented when you get back.
Originally posted by dennismoore
But it is very interesting that they are, as Buzz points out, usually very expensive cars. Why? Any sociologists out there?
Reply ID 52440
quote:Yes, it does make a difference. What gives anyone the right to redefine a "set-down area" as their own short-term parking space? Does it make a difference? It does to people who want to pick-up or "set-down" but are prevented from doing so by people who think the rules don't apply to them. It simply demonstrates a selfishness and lack of respect for the rules and needs of other people.
Originally posted by DCI monkfish
Does it really make a difference if you are parked there waiting for 5 minutes, or going inside the shop for 5 minutes? As long as it isn't a full weeks shopping I can't see the problem.
Reply ID 52444
i think we need a bigger tesco's to resolve this problem ;)
Reply ID 52447
quote:Firefighters work long shifts and have to provide their own food in the process. It is unfeasible for a firefighter to pop to tescos in their lunch break to buy food as they need to be available in case of an emergency. So they take the engine with them to Tescos and if a shout comes in they can jump straight into the engine and pick up their colleagues from the fire station. Otherwise they would have to walk/run back to the station before the engine is ready to go.
Originally posted by buzzquote:Why should a fire engine be there in the first place? It's an emergency vehicle not a large shopping trolley for firemen
Originally posted by Emma
And where else are you suggesting a fire engine park? In a normal bay?
Reply ID 52448
One told me that they try to park around the back of Tescos, infront of the delivery area whenever possible. This is only ever on the way back from a call-out and its only for 5 mins to grab lunch/supper etc. The reason they park around the back is because some members of the public call into complain when they are seen out near the front that " they are wasting tax-payers money, using the fire-engine as a taxi etc etc". ..! These comlaints are not only incorrect but im sure are a waste tax-payers money to process in themselves....
Reply ID 52449
quote:I find this comment offensive, I drive one of the fore mentioned cars and have never park there. Just because someone has a nice car it does not necessarily make them A-holes. Grow up.
Originally posted by buzz
You don't need a special pass........you just need to drive a big f**k off 4x4, a BMW or Mercedes. Alternatively a Fire Engine or Police Car
Reply ID 52450
quote:Wow, you must have a big garage for your fire engine [:D]
Originally posted by Victor Meldrewquote:I find this comment offensive, I drive one of the fore mentioned cars and have never park there. Just because someone has a nice car it does not necessarily make them A-holes. Grow up.
Originally posted by buzz
You don't need a special pass........you just need to drive a big f**k off 4x4, a BMW or Mercedes. Alternatively a Fire Engine or Police Car
Reply ID 52452
quote:Or then again perhaps they just want to be seen. And where better!
Originally posted by shuntquote:If you've got money, you ain't going to be using Tesco for anything but a convenience;- paper, fags, cash machine or something that got forgotten. Proper shopping will be done elsewhere. Also, unless you've a Fiat 500, a child, or a blue badge, parking in a parking space traps you in the car and if you do get the doors open, your doors will be dented when you get back.
Originally posted by dennismoore
But it is very interesting that they are, as Buzz points out, usually very expensive cars. Why? Any sociologists out there?
Reply ID 52453
quote:And getting out of the Mill Road junction in a fire engine and possibly having to turn it around once back at base would be that much quicker instead of just running across the Ware road back to the station would it? Taking it to its illogical conclusion, does taking an engine to Tesco's for your sarnies count as private use and therefore liable to tax? [:)] Maybe the sensible approach would be to buy your grub at Tesco before your shift started.[^]
Originally posted by jez_p Firefighters work long shifts and have to provide their own food in the process. It is unfeasible for a firefighter to pop to tescos in their lunch break to buy food as they need to be available in case of an emergency. So they take the engine with them to Tescos and if a shout comes in they can jump straight into the engine and pick up their colleagues from the fire station. Otherwise they would have to walk/run back to the station before the engine is ready to go.
Reply ID 52456
quote:The same could be said of the Police Officers & PCSO's who stop off there to go shopping.
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:And getting out of the Mill Road junction in a fire engine and possibly having to turn it around once back at base would be that much quicker instead of just running across the Ware road back to the station would it? Taking it to its illogical conclusion, does taking an engine to Tesco's for your sarnies count as private use and therefore liable to tax? [:)] Maybe the sensible approach would be to buy your grub at Tesco before your shift started.[^]
Originally posted by jez_p Firefighters work long shifts and have to provide their own food in the process. It is unfeasible for a firefighter to pop to tescos in their lunch break to buy food as they need to be available in case of an emergency. So they take the engine with them to Tescos and if a shout comes in they can jump straight into the engine and pick up their colleagues from the fire station. Otherwise they would have to walk/run back to the station before the engine is ready to go.
Reply ID 52459
quote:True, although the PCSO favoured the kebab shop yesterday evening [8D]
Originally posted by spitfire The same could be said of the Police Officers & PCSO's who stop off there to go shopping.
Reply ID 52466
quote:Unfortunately, Firefighters can not just wander across the road to feed themselves, they have to take the truck with them and I am sure you would be pleased of this if it was your house that was on fire. Are you suggesting they do not eat?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Why should a fire engine be there in the first place? It's an emergency vehicle not a large shopping trolley for firemen
Originally posted by Emma
And where else are you suggesting a fire engine park? In a normal bay?
Reply ID 52467
quote:Thank you Jez, however I will point out that the truck will not "go back to the station and pick up colleagues", a truck HAS to carry a full and available crew if it is out and about.
Originally posted by jez_pquote:Firefighters work long shifts and have to provide their own food in the process. It is unfeasible for a firefighter to pop to tescos in their lunch break to buy food as they need to be available in case of an emergency. So they take the engine with them to Tescos and if a shout comes in they can jump straight into the engine and pick up their colleagues from the fire station. Otherwise they would have to walk/run back to the station before the engine is ready to go.
Originally posted by buzzquote:Why should a fire engine be there in the first place? It's an emergency vehicle not a large shopping trolley for firemen
Originally posted by Emma
And where else are you suggesting a fire engine park? In a normal bay?
Reply ID 52469
I ask again - given the requirements for them to be available at all times during a shift, why not make food provision before they begin work?
Reply ID 52475
I take it you were a time and motion man back in the day Leo???!!!
Reply ID 52476
quote:Maybe because they eat as a crew rather than seperately, maybe because they do not get specific breaks or lunch hours like other workers, maybe before a 15 hour night shift they have better things to do (like sleep) or maybe it is just to annoy the hell out of people like your good self and others who live in this town who come on this board to complain about the most trivial of matters. So a fire engine parks in the bus bay. So what? A 4x4 parks in the waiting bay. Who cares? Are these small things that really do not matter a jot in the scheme of things really worth complaining about? Leo - please do not think this is a personal rant at you. It just seems to me (as an occasional poster but regular reader) that this forum along with the Mercury will not be happy until they have complained about anything and everything. Everyone on here goes on about how great this town is, so be thankful that these trivial things are the only things we have to complain about. I personally would not live here if I had other options but that is besides the point.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I ask again - given the requirements for them to be available at all times during a shift, why not make food provision before they begin work?
Reply ID 52479
You make very valid observations Emma - anyone outside of Hertford reading some of the posts could conclude that Hertford is full of 'anoraks' with nothing better to do than bang away at the keyboard and make silly comments. [;)]
Reply ID 52480
I would like to complain about Emmas post about pointless complaining.
Reply ID 52481
quote:Hertford fire station has 1 wholetime appliance manned by 4 watches. Watches have a min of 4 firefighters to 6 max. This can vary due to sickness and firefighters being deployed to to other fire stations so its not until they come on duty that the exact number of riders is available.Hence they do there food shopping during there shift.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I ask again - given the requirements for them to be available at all times during a shift, why not make food provision before they begin work?
Reply ID 52488
Many years ago I was a PC at Hertford Police Station. I knew roughly what hours I would be working, therefore made arrangements about food. IE brought sandwiches etc with me. Why do Police officers, PCSO's Firemen etc nowadays think that it's Ok to use part of the time (and use of vehicles) to do their food shopping?
Reply ID 52490
quote:No - I just have a bit of common sense. So rather than send someone with a shopping list, its preferable to load up the engine with the whole team and drive round the town centre so they can park up in a bus stop about 200yds from where they started just to buy sarnies. [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/persons/115.gif[/img]
Originally posted by nuts
I take it you were a time and motion man back in the day Leo???!!!
Reply ID 52499
quote:When I used to work in a supermarket in another life, and was supervising, I would always do my best to get them through the checkouts as fast as possible. It's because of the fact they're on duty, it wasn't uncommon for them to have to leave food while queuing because they suddenly got a call so anything we could do to help them get through as quick as possible, we did.
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Hertford fire station has 1 wholetime appliance manned by 4 watches. Watches have a min of 4 firefighters to 6 max. This can vary due to sickness and firefighters being deployed to to other fire stations so its not until they come on duty that the exact number of riders is available.Hence they do there food shopping during there shift.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I ask again - given the requirements for them to be available at all times during a shift, why not make food provision before they begin work?
Reply ID 52500
quote:.... and thats an observation based on common sense is it? [:(]
Originally posted by Leo Densian
[quote] No - I just have a bit of common sense. So rather than send someone with a shopping list, its preferable to load up the engine with the whole team and drive round the town centre so they can park up in a bus stop about 200yds from where they started just to buy sarnies. [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/persons/115.gif[/img]
Reply ID 52501
Errr..yes. Which bit was hard for you to comprehend?
Reply ID 52502
Oh I understand what you are saying - I just find it extraordinary that you can suggest that a fully trained fire watch, accountable to the public, will actually take out a fire tender just to go shopping. What evidence is this based upon? You actually know that they hadn't been on a shout?
Reply ID 52503
Others have suggested this really - I have merely chosen to comment on it. If we get back to the original point of the thread, we are debating vehicles using allocated space other than for which it was intended. A 4x4 in the set down area while the owner goes shopping (not my specific allegation) or a fire engine in a bus stop - the principle is the same in my book yet others seem to think there is a distinction.
Reply ID 52504
quote:Well sorry but one is amazing members of the community who take their lives in their hands each time they go to work, work long hours and is getting a few goods to cook themselves a meal as they work long shifts where they need hot meals not sandwiches!!The other is so selfish parking their Chelsea tractor in a space to do their shopping when they are supposed to park in a marked space!! Not the same principle at all!
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Others have suggested this really - I have merely chosen to comment on it. If we get back to the original point of the thread, we are debating vehicles using allocated space other than for which it was intended. A 4x4 in the set down area while the owner goes shopping (not my specific allegation) or a fire engine in a bus stop - the principle is the same in my book yet others seem to think there is a distinction.
Reply ID 52507
quote:Yes it is......it is actually worse that public servants using public emergency vehicles think they are beyond the rules. If they need hot food, fine. They have the facilities to cook it. They can buy it before they come on shift........after all Tesco is 24hours.And are they actually insured for using the vehicle for private purposes?
Originally posted by Earthmotherquote:Well sorry but one is amazing members of the community who take their lives in their hands each time they go to work, work long hours and is getting a few goods to cook themselves a meal as they work long shifts where they need hot meals not sandwiches!!The other is so selfish parking their Chelsea tractor in a space to do their shopping when they are supposed to park in a marked space!! Not the same principle at all!
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Others have suggested this really - I have merely chosen to comment on it. If we get back to the original point of the thread, we are debating vehicles using allocated space other than for which it was intended. A 4x4 in the set down area while the owner goes shopping (not my specific allegation) or a fire engine in a bus stop - the principle is the same in my book yet others seem to think there is a distinction.
Reply ID 52508
I am struggling to come to terms with some of the comments on this thread. Maybe fire crews have it written in their contracts that they can use their appliances to shop for food. Maybe they have special dispensation to park at bus stops. But what the hell, let's just villify them without knowing the full facts. I hope that there aren't double yellow lines outside your house because if it was ever on fire they'd have a hell of a job putting it out from 200 yards away.
Reply ID 52509
The set down area is not marked up as being an emergency services bay and maybe that is what it should be for - emergencies only! The fire station is literally across the road from Tesco and the car park is notoriously difficult to get out of with the volumes of cars visiting! A Set Down bay is completely pointless, there is no reason why anyone needs to be picked up at the door. Whoever is collecting them should park in a normal space like everyone else and walk over to the entrance to meet them.
Reply ID 52510
Some very, very sad people.
Reply ID 52511
Curious psychology that leads people to accept instruction from a supermarket and be classified by them in a car park. It's part of what I find objectionable about the shopping experience. Apparently (according to all their notices) it's "your car park" and "your store", so park where you bleedin' like and refuse to be a sheep. It's a shop and you are the customer.
Reply ID 52513
I bet its Tesco's fault for leading the public down a path of damnation.
Reply ID 52516
quote:Come on John - as someone who has gone to the bother of creating a web-site with the specific intention of villifying lazy-bast**d parking, I am amazed you take this point of view. There may be perfectly valid reasons for the cars being parked where they are on your web site - did you check with the owners first before posting the photo's? Unless Tesco's is on fire there is no reason for the fire engine to be parked in that bus stop, pure and simple. People seem to be getting emotive over the fact that these are brave guys who save lives - that is obviously true but irrelevant to the point of the debate.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I am struggling to come to terms with some of the comments on this thread. Maybe fire crews have it written in their contracts that they can use their appliances to shop for food. Maybe they have special dispensation to park at bus stops. But what the hell, let's just villify them without knowing the full facts. I hope that there aren't double yellow lines outside your house because if it was ever on fire they'd have a hell of a job putting it out from 200 yards away.
Reply ID 52517
quote:Other way round. Tesco is an undemanding public's fault.
Originally posted by Dude
I bet its Tesco's fault for leading the public down a path of damnation.
Reply ID 52536
Pick Up Points are for people with shopping being picked up by car - which could either be a taxi - or an obliging husband/wife/partner/friend that has been to Focus while the other half does the shopping in Tesco. Yes said person could drive all the way round the car park and find a space - then lock the car and go and finds the person that needs picking up, but it is a lot simpler to pull up in the designated space and pick up the person that needs collecting.
Reply ID 52537
quote:There is a difference between an emergency vehicle parking in a bus stop because they have to be able to get away quickly if they are called upon. And a Lazy B***** in their car that parks on the grass because it is closer to their house/the shops than the free car park/parking spaces nearby. I presume that if there is a fire, the whole firefigting team is required to attend. I would be a little annoyed if a fire engine turned up missing a member of the crew because he had gone to Tesco to get the sarnies. Also, being imprisioned in the fire station for your entire 8 hour (or longer) shift can't be particularly pleasant.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Come on John - as someone who has gone to the bother of creating a web-site with the specific intention of villifying lazy-bast**d parking, I am amazed you take this point of view. There may be perfectly valid reasons for the cars being parked where they are on your web site - did you check with the owners first before posting the photo's? Unless Tesco's is on fire there is no reason for the fire engine to be parked in that bus stop, pure and simple. People seem to be getting emotive over the fact that these are brave guys who save lives - that is obviously true but irrelevant to the point of the debate.
Reply ID 52538
quote:There is no reason why one of the crew should have gone to Tesco to "get the sarnies"........should have bought them before starting the shift! Also, I don't think you'll find that they're "imprisoned" in the fire station. They carry out safety checks at various premises and practice drills..........hardly "imprisoned"
Originally posted by jez_pquote:There is a difference between an emergency vehicle parking in a bus stop because they have to be able to get away quickly if they are called upon. And a Lazy B***** in their car that parks on the grass because it is closer to their house/the shops than the free car park/parking spaces nearby. I presume that if there is a fire, the whole firefigting team is required to attend. I would be a little annoyed if a fire engine turned up missing a member of the crew because he had gone to Tesco to get the sarnies. Also, being imprisioned in the fire station for your entire 8 hour (or longer) shift can't be particularly pleasant.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Come on John - as someone who has gone to the bother of creating a web-site with the specific intention of villifying lazy-bast**d parking, I am amazed you take this point of view. There may be perfectly valid reasons for the cars being parked where they are on your web site - did you check with the owners first before posting the photo's? Unless Tesco's is on fire there is no reason for the fire engine to be parked in that bus stop, pure and simple. People seem to be getting emotive over the fact that these are brave guys who save lives - that is obviously true but irrelevant to the point of the debate.
Reply ID 52539
quote:I think the thing you are ignoring is that a sandwich – as well as many other ready-to-eat things from supermarkets – are something that is already ready to be eaten. My cousin is firefighter up north and the amount of times they would waste food if they cooked or ordered stuff in would be a real cause for an outcry. Hertford's Tesco is hardly out on one side town now is it. In fact, I'd bet it's easier for them to get to an emergency if they are at the bus stop to get anywhere in town than it is if they are at the station.
Originally posted by buzzquote:There is no reason why one of the crew should have gone to Tesco to "get the sarnies"........should have bought them before starting the shift! Also, I don't think you'll find that they're "imprisoned" in the fire station. They carry out safety checks at various premises and practice drills..........hardly "imprisoned"
Originally posted by jez_pquote:There is a difference between an emergency vehicle parking in a bus stop because they have to be able to get away quickly if they are called upon. And a Lazy B***** in their car that parks on the grass because it is closer to their house/the shops than the free car park/parking spaces nearby. I presume that if there is a fire, the whole firefigting team is required to attend. I would be a little annoyed if a fire engine turned up missing a member of the crew because he had gone to Tesco to get the sarnies. Also, being imprisioned in the fire station for your entire 8 hour (or longer) shift can't be particularly pleasant.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Come on John - as someone who has gone to the bother of creating a web-site with the specific intention of villifying lazy-bast**d parking, I am amazed you take this point of view. There may be perfectly valid reasons for the cars being parked where they are on your web site - did you check with the owners first before posting the photo's? Unless Tesco's is on fire there is no reason for the fire engine to be parked in that bus stop, pure and simple. People seem to be getting emotive over the fact that these are brave guys who save lives - that is obviously true but irrelevant to the point of the debate.
Reply ID 52542
quote:Not quite sure what point you're making. Yes sandwiches etc are ready to be eaten. You buy them on your way to work. If you are eating them and you get a "shout" they will still be edible when you get back. Still does not justify emergency vehicles being used for private purposes.Additionally if you've got members of a crew wandering around Tesco, it's my guess that it would take longer to get them all rounded up to respond to a call than if they were in the station
Originally posted by Brockmanquote:I think the thing you are ignoring is that a sandwich – as well as many other ready-to-eat things from supermarkets – are something that is already ready to be eaten. My cousin is firefighter up north and the amount of times they would waste food if they cooked or ordered stuff in would be a real cause for an outcry. Hertford's Tesco is hardly out on one side town now is it. In fact, I'd bet it's easier for them to get to an emergency if they are at the bus stop to get anywhere in town than it is if they are at the station.
Originally posted by buzzquote:There is no reason why one of the crew should have gone to Tesco to "get the sarnies"........should have bought them before starting the shift! Also, I don't think you'll find that they're "imprisoned" in the fire station. They carry out safety checks at various premises and practice drills..........hardly "imprisoned"
Originally posted by jez_pquote:There is a difference between an emergency vehicle parking in a bus stop because they have to be able to get away quickly if they are called upon. And a Lazy B***** in their car that parks on the grass because it is closer to their house/the shops than the free car park/parking spaces nearby. I presume that if there is a fire, the whole firefigting team is required to attend. I would be a little annoyed if a fire engine turned up missing a member of the crew because he had gone to Tesco to get the sarnies. Also, being imprisioned in the fire station for your entire 8 hour (or longer) shift can't be particularly pleasant.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Come on John - as someone who has gone to the bother of creating a web-site with the specific intention of villifying lazy-bast**d parking, I am amazed you take this point of view. There may be perfectly valid reasons for the cars being parked where they are on your web site - did you check with the owners first before posting the photo's? Unless Tesco's is on fire there is no reason for the fire engine to be parked in that bus stop, pure and simple. People seem to be getting emotive over the fact that these are brave guys who save lives - that is obviously true but irrelevant to the point of the debate.
Reply ID 52543
quote:Do you actually know that they have?
Originally posted by Moulder
Oh I understand what you are saying - I just find it extraordinary that you can suggest that a fully trained fire watch, accountable to the public, will actually take out a fire tender just to go shopping. What evidence is this based upon? You actually know that they hadn't been on a shout?
Reply ID 52544
We seem to have drifted off-topic a little
Reply ID 52555
I visited the store at just before 7am on my way to work, and despite a near empty car park, the Set Down Area was full. The owners were obviously VIP's and in a rush.
Reply ID 52570
I don't know whether anyone's brought up this particular beef before but why is it that if you have a load of screaming brats you get special parking spaces nearest to the supermarket? Because if it's about distance you'll do a lot more walking round the aisles than from any point in the car park. I think people who have had the decency not to clog up the planet with their horrid little sprogs should get priority parking. I realise some will say that this isn't a commercially viable proposition - but with sponsorship from someone like, er... DUREX, it could work. Firefighters with kids would be exempt, obviously.
Reply ID 52574
Completely off topic Kev The main reason for P&C parking is that the bays are wider and have a trolley point nearby to make it easier to load your toddler/baby without damaging the vehicle parked next to you. There is no reason why they need to be closer to the store (in fact it may help prevent abuse if they were not) Never mind Kev - I hope that you remeber that when you retire - my "screaming brats" will be paying the taxes to keep you in your home etc. etc.
Reply ID 52575
I think Kev has had a few again...completely off topic and why bring kids into the equation?
quote:
Originally posted by kevsaunders
I don't know whether anyone's brought up this particular beef before but why is it that if you have a load of screaming brats you get special parking spaces nearest to the supermarket? Because if it's about distance you'll do a lot more walking round the aisles than from any point in the car park. I think people who have had the decency not to clog up the planet with their horrid little sprogs should get priority parking. I realise some will say that this isn't a commercially viable proposition - but with sponsorship from someone like, er... DUREX, it could work. Firefighters with kids would be exempt, obviously.
Reply ID 52577
Judging by the time at which his comment was posted I'd hazard a guess that Kevin is actually a parent of young children himself who is simply venting his spleen. Don't worry Kevin, a lot of us have been there. Hope you felt better in the morning.
Reply ID 52583
quote:Off topic I know, so I wont say too much. I'm also expecting a lot of stick for saying this, but I totally agree with kevsaunders. When myself and my brother were small children there were no special spaces for parent and child, and my Mum and Dad got along just fine parking in the normal spaces with everyone else!
Originally posted by kevsaunders
I don't know whether anyone's brought up this particular beef before but why is it that if you have a load of screaming brats you get special parking spaces nearest to the supermarket? Because if it's about distance you'll do a lot more walking round the aisles than from any point in the car park. I think people who have had the decency not to clog up the planet with their horrid little sprogs should get priority parking. I realise some will say that this isn't a commercially viable proposition - but with sponsorship from someone like, er... DUREX, it could work.
Reply ID 52587
I also agree with Kev, let them have their spaces by all means, but with concerns mounting over the rising levels of child obesity, place them at the far end of the car park so that the little darlings at least get a bit of exercise.
Reply ID 52588
Spot on buzz , b turbo & Kev. Thanx for venting MY spleen for me (& now.... relax...)
Reply ID 52592
quote:Nope - noone has been that pathetic... Oh.
Originally posted by kevsaunders
I don't know whether anyone's brought up this particular beef before but why is it that if you have a load of screaming brats you get special parking spaces nearest to the supermarket?
Reply ID 52593
Tesco should punish people that abuse the car park, but they seem not to bother, so I hold them responsible. It is very annoying to have cars jutting out of the full pick-up point into the car park entrance with no people in them, and makes me pretty angry to see disabled and M&C bays used by those that shouldn't be. Why don't Tesco enforce it? They enforce over-stayers.
Reply ID 52594
quote:They haven't the authority to enforce anything, they're a shop! If you get a notice demanding money, just ignore it. They are unable to enforce it in law. As`for all this "special" priveledge parking, if they just made spaces that are of useable size, then there would be no need for segregation. This is more about trying to make mummy feel precious, just because she chose to reproduce. Why should the rest of us struggle to get in and out of our cars? I've got kids, but I don't expect the rest of the world to bear the responsibilty for my decision.
Originally posted by steven
Tesco should punish people that abuse the car park, but they seem not to bother, so I hold them responsible. It is very annoying to have cars jutting out of the full pick-up point into the car park entrance with no people in them, and makes me pretty angry to see disabled and M&C bays used by those that shouldn't be. Why don't Tesco enforce it? They enforce over-stayers.
Reply ID 52605
quote:Get a smaller car? [;)]
Originally posted by shuntquote:They haven't the authority to enforce anything, they're a shop! If you get a notice demanding money, just ignore it. They are unable to enforce it in law. As`for all this "special" priveledge parking, if they just made spaces that are of useable size, then there would be no need for segregation. This is more about trying to make mummy feel precious, just because she chose to reproduce. Why should the rest of us struggle to get in and out of our cars? I've got kids, but I don't expect the rest of the world to bear the responsibilty for my decision.
Originally posted by steven
Tesco should punish people that abuse the car park, but they seem not to bother, so I hold them responsible. It is very annoying to have cars jutting out of the full pick-up point into the car park entrance with no people in them, and makes me pretty angry to see disabled and M&C bays used by those that shouldn't be. Why don't Tesco enforce it? They enforce over-stayers.
Reply ID 52612
quote:Awwhttp://www... I'm sorry Shunt... He's got you there :p
Originally posted by Dudequote:Get a smaller car? [;)]
Originally posted by shuntquote:They haven't the authority to enforce anything, they're a shop! If you get a notice demanding money, just ignore it. They are unable to enforce it in law. As`for all this "special" priveledge parking, if they just made spaces that are of useable size, then there would be no need for segregation. This is more about trying to make mummy feel precious, just because she chose to reproduce. Why should the rest of us struggle to get in and out of our cars? I've got kids, but I don't expect the rest of the world to bear the responsibilty for my decision.
Originally posted by steven
Tesco should punish people that abuse the car park, but they seem not to bother, so I hold them responsible. It is very annoying to have cars jutting out of the full pick-up point into the car park entrance with no people in them, and makes me pretty angry to see disabled and M&C bays used by those that shouldn't be. Why don't Tesco enforce it? They enforce over-stayers.
Reply ID 52614
Hmmmph![:(!] My truck would be a bit excessive for shopping trips[:p], but I meant the saloon or the sports. Luckily, due a very successful diet of fags, stress and emotional turmoil, I'm still able to slither out of a half open car door. Any fatter and I'd confined in the car, or have to adopt the Gascoine Way carpark technique of climbing out and then pushing the car back into the bay.
Reply ID 52617
quote:I do know what you mean. The big problem is that government regulations on the minimum size of parking spaces were last set in the 1970s when the average width of a car was a lot less. Since then, cars have become a lot wider and as a result, the supermarkets and other places that maintain car parks – understandably – have always stuck to the regulations in order to get as many cars in a small space as is possible.
Originally posted by shunt
Hmmmph![:(!] My truck would be a bit excessive for shopping trips[:p], but I meant the saloon or the sports. Luckily, due a very successful diet of fags, stress and emotional turmoil, I'm still able to slither out of a half open car door. Any fatter and I'd confined in the car, or have to adopt the Gascoine Way carpark technique of climbing out and then pushing the car back into the bay.
Reply ID 52641
In an ideal world all the spaces would be P&C size - yes provinding the parking spaces is a cunning plan to make mum feel special so she spends her money in Tesco. the problem is that if Tesco make all the spaces wider then less people would be able to park at all - more complaines, less shoppers, less revenue for tesco.
Reply ID 52669
In an ideal world people would walk or cycle to pick up their half dozen or so items and leave parking spaces free for those who genuinely have to drive.
Reply ID 52670
quote:I would have thought that some of those picking up the odd item are more likely to be "en route" and passing in the car anyway. Better than a special car journey just to shop. Unfortunately, daily, co-incidental shopping would require a return to the pre-supermarket days. There is some evidence of a slow return (Bengeo Co-op has never been so busy) but even there the habit of taking the car is very deep set.
Originally posted by dennismoore
In an ideal world people would walk or cycle to pick up their half dozen or so items and leave parking spaces free for those who genuinely have to drive.
Reply ID 52672
I would like to shoot anyone parking in the parent and child places at Tescos without a child. How would they feel walking little Wrapper across the car park in the pouring rain cos some selfish so and so has no morals?
Reply ID 52676
I would hate to fall out over this Wrapper but...... don't forget that Tescos et al don't put P & C spaces in their carpark out of charity. They know that people bringing small child into their premises will spend more - its a cynical marketing ploy. (even my beloved Waitrose have those blasted children's trolleys - same principals apply..) There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it. Myself I may take to parking in those spaces even if a closer normal one is avaliable. Parking wrongly in a space reserved for a person with a disability, now that is a hanging offence.......
Reply ID 52680
quote:Paragraph 1 - ??? Paragrpah 2 - To give my other half a rest as she looks after him all week and he likes going round the supermarket. Is that OK with you? Paragraph 3 - Why? Are you not being extremely inconsiderate? Is this your attempt at a wind up or does the whole world revolve around you?
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
I would hate to fall out over this Wrapper but...... don't forget that Tescos et al don't put P & C spaces in their carpark out of charity. They know that people bringing small child into their premises will spend more - its a cynical marketing ploy. (even my beloved Waitrose have those blasted children's trolleys - same principals apply..) There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it. Myself I may take to parking in those spaces even if a closer normal one is avaliable. Parking wrongly in a space reserved for a person with a disability, now that is a hanging offence.......
Reply ID 52682
Para 1 - Ahh... the innocence of (I presume) youth. Tesco regn charity no. ####. I suspect you thought they used to put sweets by the tills for convienience.. Para 2 - No Para 3 - No - but it will wind up parents who attend the Tesco Children's theme park Last point - Yes
Reply ID 52683
quote:Crawl back under your stone
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
Para 1 - Ahh... the innocence of (I presume) youth. Tesco regn charity no. ####. I suspect you thought they used to put sweets by the tills for convienience.. Para 2 - No Para 3 - No - but it will wind up parents who attend the Tesco Children's theme park Last point - Yes
Reply ID 52684
quote:If you continue posting in this manner your membership will be reviewed.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Crawl back under your stone
Reply ID 52685
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Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
Para 1 - Ahh... the innocence of (I presume) youth. Tesco regn charity no. ####. I suspect you thought they used to put sweets by the tills for convienience.. Para 2 - No Para 3 - No - but it will wind up parents who attend the Tesco Children's theme park Last point - Yes
Reply ID 52689
quote:I think Capitalist piglet is trying to be funny and failing miserably. I am surprised Admin cant see how offensive his comments are.
Originally posted by Adminquote:If you continue posting in this manner your membership will be reviewed.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Crawl back under your stone
Reply ID 52690
quote:Many's the time I would have forgotten to buy lollies and chewing gum if the supermarket hadn't have reminded me by putting them by the tills.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
Para 1 - Ahh... the innocence of (I presume) youth. Tesco regn charity no. ####. I suspect you thought they used to put sweets by the tills for convienience.. Para 2 - No Para 3 - No - but it will wind up parents who attend the Tesco Children's theme park Last point - Yes
Reply ID 52691
quote:What do you suggest parents do with their children whilst shopping? Leave them at home on their own to look after themselves? I must say there seems to be a unhealthily intolerant attitude by Hertford's Bachelor community on here towards children, who are, afterall, human beings just like the rest of us.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it.
Reply ID 52692
quote:I think its cruel to drag a screaming child round the supermarket, not only to them, but to the rest of the shoppers.
Originally posted by aubendquote:What do you suggest parents do with their children whilst shopping? Leave them at home on their own to look after themselves? I must say there seems to be a unhealthily intolerant attitude by Hertford's Bachelor community on here towards children, who are, afterall, human beings just like the rest of us.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it.
Reply ID 52693
We seem to have lost sight of the topic here
Reply ID 52694
quote:Interesting one aubend. As I didn’t actually make the point but alluded to it perhaps it's presumptuous to comment ... but do you take your children to work on regular basis? In the main not. So why take them to shops - you presumably make arrangements for the former but not the latter. And could I suggest that your second paragraph could be slightly amended. Replace "by" to "to" & delete "towards children". The Hertford Parent Brigade are a majestic sight when in full gallop. I’m sure that Sir David is writing “Life on the school run “ as we debate ….
Originally posted by aubendquote:What do you suggest parents do with their children whilst shopping? Leave them at home on their own to look after themselves? I must say there seems to be a unhealthily intolerant attitude by Hertford's Bachelor community on here towards children, who are, afterall, human beings just like the rest of us.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it.
Reply ID 52695
quote:Not a bachelor and a father four times, experience is what puts me off children.[:D] Seriously though, part of growing up is learning to fit into the world. Special provision for children (or parents of) negates that lesson and leads to entitlement syndrome in both.
Originally posted by aubendquote:What do you suggest parents do with their children whilst shopping? Leave them at home on their own to look after themselves? I must say there seems to be a unhealthily intolerant attitude by Hertford's Bachelor community on here towards children, who are, afterall, human beings just like the rest of us.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
There is also a point to be made about why parents DO bring said small, screaming,ankle biters into a busy supermarket.. but I'll let someone else make it.
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