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Topic ID 4586

03/08/2009 by Ewoowar

Early flights.

Are there time restrictions on flights? I was woken by a jet engined plane flying quite low over Hertford at 3:42 this morning.


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Reply ID 65759

03/08/2009 by Steve

There were four flights scheduled into Luton between 2am and 7am this morning. It was probably one of these, or possibly cargo. Flights into Luton pass directly over the town late in the evening and overnight if they're using runway 26. There are restricted on the number of overnight flights into the airport, but no overall ban.


Reply ID 65859

06/08/2009 by Daveyone

SSE has published a step by step guide to help people to respond to BAA’s Noise Action Plan consultation. BAA is required by law to publish a five-year plan to explain how it intends to reduce nuisance from noise and its impact on sleep disturbance, health and education caused by the airport’s operations and overflying. SSE has criticised the way some information has been presented by BAA and gaps in proposals to address noise issues. “This consultation is a start but there are no teeth in the guidance for delivering the plan that would ensure BAA did anything it wasn’t already doing,” said Peter Sanders. The consultation closes on 2 October 2009. http://www.stopstanstedexpansion.com/noise.html presumably this cold prove helpful for plans going to and from Luton![8D]


Reply ID 65879

07/08/2009 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by Daveyone
SSE has published a step by step guide to help people to respond to BAA’s Noise Action Plan consultation. BAA is required by law to publish a five-year plan to explain how it intends to reduce nuisance from noise and its impact on sleep disturbance, health and education caused by the airport’s operations and overflying. SSE has criticised the way some information has been presented by BAA and gaps in proposals to address noise issues. “This consultation is a start but there are no teeth in the guidance for delivering the plan that would ensure BAA did anything it wasn’t already doing,” said Peter Sanders. The consultation closes on 2 October 2009. http://www.stopstanstedexpansion.com/noise.html presumably this cold prove helpful for plans going to and from Luton![8D]
Have you worked out how to "cut and paste" ?


Reply ID 65912

07/08/2009 by steven

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew Have you worked out how to "cut and paste" ?
I think you mean "copy and paste".


Reply ID 66263

21/08/2009 by Daveyone

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
quote:
Originally posted by Daveyone
SSE has published a step by step guide to help people to respond to BAA’s Noise Action Plan consultation. BAA is required by law to publish a five-year plan to explain how it intends to reduce nuisance from noise and its impact on sleep disturbance, health and education caused by the airport’s operations and overflying. SSE has criticised the way some information has been presented by BAA and gaps in proposals to address noise issues. “This consultation is a start but there are no teeth in the guidance for delivering the plan that would ensure BAA did anything it wasn’t already doing,” said Peter Sanders. The consultation closes on 2 October 2009. http://www.stopstanstedexpansion.com/noise.html presumably this cold prove helpful for plans going to and from Luton![8D]
Have you worked out how to "cut and paste" ?
Yes after I finished my join the dot how about YOU?


Reply ID 66297

24/08/2009 by Victor Meldrew

Do you mean join the dots or dot to dot? Come on Davyone, your posts only ever make sense if they have been written by someone else.


Reply ID 66580

03/09/2009 by Paul

Easy Jet reduces 20% flights from Luton. Hurrah! From Bengeo sufferers of noisy late night/early morning air traffic. http://tinyurl.com/l7lej9 P


Reply ID 66584

03/09/2009 by Victor Meldrew

So job losses at Easyjet and price hikes or what were cheap airfares for the public. I cant see the upside, especially as I live on more or less the highest point in Bengeo and do not see what all the fuss over aircraft noise is.


Reply ID 66589

03/09/2009 by Bengeobabe

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Originally posted by Paul
Easy Jet reduces 20% flights from Luton. Hurrah! From Bengeo sufferers of noisy late night/early morning air traffic. http://tinyurl.com/l7lej9 P
what a bizarre photo to use in that article. why is that woman's leg there? looks like she's making a dive for it out of the emergency exit!


Reply ID 66593

03/09/2009 by cassie414

I cant see the upside, especially as I live on more or less the highest point in Bengeo and do not see what all the fuss over aircraft noise is. That's because the planes are flying over us at the bottom!


Reply ID 66594

03/09/2009 by Steve

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Originally posted by Bengeobabe
what a bizarre photo to use in that article. why is that woman's leg there? looks like she's making a dive for it out of the emergency exit!
Tsk. Some people just don't understand art, do they! [:p] It's to break up the photo. It's also a conversation piece (and clearly an effective one, much to the photographer's credit).


Reply ID 66598

03/09/2009 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by cassie414
I cant see the upside, especially as I live on more or less the highest point in Bengeo and do not see what all the fuss over aircraft noise is. That's because the planes are flying over us at the bottom!
I live right on the line of the flight path and don't notice them. Traffic, yes. Aeroplanes, rarely.


Reply ID 66605

04/09/2009 by buzz

I'm with Shunt on this. When runway 26 is in use at Luton, aircraft on approach are being vectored onto the ILS and fly directly over my house and I seldom hear them. At this point in the flight, they will probably be at about 4000ft with engines set to idle. The only time I notice them is at night, if I look out of my window and see their lights. Similarly, with Stansted, I only see aircraft if they are taking off from runway 23. The majority turn left shortly after take-off. This takes them approximately over Ware, but aircraft are restricted to 250 knts on take-off and climb out until they have attained 10,000ft. This is for noise reduction purposes. Although I can see them, I rarely hear them. The aircraft which are noisy are the helicopters that appear to be flying a shuttle between (I guess, Stansted and either LHR or GTW), but don't generally hear them at night. I wonder how many people who complain about the noise from these airports are quite pleased that they live so near to them (relatively speaking), when it comes to flying off on holiday!


Reply ID 66612

04/09/2009 by cassie414

We all notice different things I suppose. The aircraft noise doesn't bother my husband, but my neighbour moved because of it! When we moved here 13 years ago it wasn't so bad, but I noticed it more from about 6 or 7 years ago. Some times of the day we have nothing, but it's the late landings that are noisy, especially when the airport is trying to get them all in about midnight. Being able to travel is a wonderful thing and most people, including me, love the opportunity to go to different countries and experience other cultures. Flights are a way of life, but maybe we all have a responsibility to think about the journeys we make. I wonder how many business meetings could use video conferencing instead on some occasions? Sometimes I think a wedding can only take place if there has been a stag weekend in Dublin and a hen weekend in Barcelona!! One thing for sure, the planes will not be going away just yet. I'll buy some better ear plugs and have an extra glass of wine in the evening.


Reply ID 66619

04/09/2009 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by buzz
...with Stansted, I only see aircraft if they are taking off from runway 23. The majority turn left shortly after take-off. This takes them approximately over Ware...
You might want to think about that. Heading SW away from Stansted then turning east - that takes you toward Braintree. If they turn right following a 23 departure they head north over Little Hadham to the VOR at Barkway. The only Stansted traffic that flies over Ware are the inbounds to Rwy 05.


Reply ID 66633

04/09/2009 by buzz

Ok, I'll give you that they're probably closer to Sawbridgeworth, but depending on the aircraft type, distance can be deceptive. A 747, would look to be closer than a Learjet. Aircraft departing Stansted on one of the six NPR's (Noise Preferential Routes) have to stick to these flight paths until they reach 4000ft (3000ft for one of the NPR's) However, these paths are 3km wide, so actual position of aircraft can vary. Once they have attained 4000ft ATC can direct them off the path towards their destination. Modern jets can reach 4000ft pretty quickly! I've never noticed any inbound to Rwy 05 at EGSS, but most of the time the wind is from the SW, so as aircraft need to land and take off into wind, RW 23 is used far more often, in fact 2/3rds of take-offs and landings use Rwy 23. Whilst there are defined flight paths for take-off the same does not apply to landings until aircraft are established on the ILS, or Localiser. ATC will determine the route that each individual plane takes until it establishes on the ILS.


Reply ID 66654

06/09/2009 by dytter

There are some very knowledgable people on this forum! Btw, Stansted's runway has changed designation to 22/04.


Reply ID 66655

06/09/2009 by Steve

If only the north pole would stay still! [:D]


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