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04/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

New Bar

Just read in the Mercury that there are plans to turn what was or is Freedon Australia in the small arcade in Railway street in to a bar that caters for people over 25 as we do not have one that does??????? Anybody know any more?


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Reply ID 4091

04/02/2005 by del

only that it seems poinless![:D]


Reply ID 4093

04/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Why pointless? The more bars, the less crowded they become, the quicker it is to get a drink.


Reply ID 4094

04/02/2005 by del

oh i see;people over 25 years of age..bring it on


Reply ID 4096

04/02/2005 by carlos fandango

Another bar in Hertford? Another nail in the coffin etc. in my view.


Reply ID 4097

04/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Another bar in Hertford? Another nail in the coffin etc. in my view.
My my how you have changed!


Reply ID 4098

04/02/2005 by Frenchie

Sounds good if its a wine bar type thing, look forward to it.


Reply ID 4105

04/02/2005 by carlos fandango

Indeed yes.... so VM would you also be known as the voice of the stands?


Reply ID 4107

04/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Indeed yes.... so VM would you also be known as the voice of the stands?
Anonymity is a wonderful thing. Hoe Hoe Hoe!


Reply ID 4108

04/02/2005 by carlos fandango

mmmmm. i knew you had a connection there from other comments. just have to figure out who you are.


Reply ID 4109

04/02/2005 by del

vic was spotted in the sportsmam tuesday,we are on to you[;)]


Reply ID 4110

04/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by del
vic was spotted in the sportsmam tuesday,we are on to you[;)]
I told you all that I was in there in one of my messages!


Reply ID 4130

06/02/2005 by jez_p

quote:
Originally posted by del
vic was spotted in the sportsmam tuesday,we are on to you[;)]
I don't believe it!!!!!


Reply ID 4141

07/02/2005 by Dude

I think a wine bar is well over due. I'm amazed one hasn't already opened at either the old Tyre place, Your Move, or the building society opposite Baroosh.


Reply ID 4158

07/02/2005 by del

the old tyre place is to be another night club,it makes me so angrey im off to get very very drunk[xx(]


Reply ID 4163

07/02/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by del
the old tyre place is to be another night club,it makes me so angrey im off to get very very drunk[xx(]
Yeah.......I heard it was going to play garage all night and that the drink prices would be over-inflated. I think the need for such a place is wearing a bit thin. I certainly won't tread in there.


Reply ID 4164

07/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by del
the old tyre place is to be another night club,it makes me so angrey im off to get very very drunk[xx(]
Yeah.......I heard it was going to play garage all night and that the drink prices would be over-inflated. I think the need for such a place is wearing a bit thin. I certainly won't tread in there.
Like it! Whats the point in going somewhere like that, it would leave you exhausted!


Reply ID 4165

07/02/2005 by Ewoowar

Last time I went somewhere like that the atmosphere was completely flat. Or perhaps it was me......it hadn't been a good year and I was tired.


Reply ID 4166

07/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Last time I went somewhere like that the atmosphere was completely flat. Or perhaps it was me......it hadn't been a good year and I was tired.
Give us a brake! All you need is some lively music to Pump it up.


Reply ID 4676

21/02/2005 by maxrael

what this town needs is a good goth club... cheep beer and sticky floors


Reply ID 4681

21/02/2005 by del

I agree they all seem to be like sheep we need something alternative,could be my next project,fancy a wip round an do it?


Reply ID 4683

21/02/2005 by carlos fandango

A bit of Rammstein never hurt anyone...all together now links 2 3 4


Reply ID 4684

21/02/2005 by del

well thats three of us!


Reply ID 4686

21/02/2005 by Steve

It's not so much a goth club/pub that the town needs so much as an alternative that isn't a quaint establishment or mass-appeal alcopop shop. Anyone who remembers The Blackbirds circa Eric will recognise what the town's missing.


Reply ID 4689

21/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
It's not so much a goth club/pub that the town needs so much as an alternative that isn't a quaint establishment or mass-appeal alcopop shop. Anyone who remembers The Blackbirds circa Eric will recognise what the town's missing.
i agree,like i say these new owners act like sheep,they see it work for one and they jump on the plan,i for one am sick off it we have enough of these places,and soon to have at least two more! how the wip round going?


Reply ID 4694

21/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

How many people would actually want to visit a place like that?? The idea of a business is to make money, not to necessarily make everyone happy. Although I am all for a mixture of establishments in the Town, surely they have to be profitable, or all we will end up with is empty units. Unfortunately you will just have to accept the fact that the general public now prefer to spend their time in more salubrious surroundings. Anything different in Town would not be profitable in my opinion. Sorry.


Reply ID 4701

21/02/2005 by OldCross

I think there should be a bar that caters for over 40 year olds as I anticipate a growing market, based upon what I have seen from Baroosh and Number 11.


Reply ID 4705

21/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
How many people would actually want to visit a place like that?? The idea of a business is to make money, not to necessarily make everyone happy. Although I am all for a mixture of establishments in the Town, surely they have to be profitable, or all we will end up with is empty units. Unfortunately you will just have to accept the fact that the general public now prefer to spend their time in more salubrious surroundings. Anything different in Town would not be profitable in my opinion. Sorry.Oh trust me,people travel miles for the alternative seen,ive been into it for 25 years and all these clubs/pubs do VERY well,no trouble in them etc.i can only think of one yhats gone in all this time.


Reply ID 4716

21/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Oh trust me,people travel miles for the alternative seen,ive been into it for 25 years and all these clubs/pubs do VERY well,no trouble in them etc.i can only think of one yhats gone in all this time. [/quote] Fair enough, I just feel that the population of Hertford and the surrounding areas would not be into that scene and they are the people that the town should be catering for if they want to be profitable. But as I have said before "variety is the spice of life" So why not give it a bash, I hear that the WH Smiths site might be up for grabs! [/quote]


Reply ID 4717

21/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Oh trust me,people travel miles for the alternative seen,ive been into it for 25 years and all these clubs/pubs do VERY well,no trouble in them etc.i can only think of one yhats gone in all this time.
Fair enough, I just feel that the population of Hertford and the surrounding areas would not be into that scene and they are the people that the town should be catering for if they want to be profitable. But as I have said before "variety is the spice of life" So why not give it a bash, I hear that the WH Smiths site might be up for grabs! [/quote] well as we can plainly see they dont give a toss about the people of Hertford,is greasy palms if you ask me.this town is growing too fast,maybe im wrong its my perseption. [/quote]


Reply ID 4737

22/02/2005 by A Grove

Is there a particular web site to go to or number to ring if you wanted to buy a find a property to open a pub/bar in Hertford?


Reply ID 4738

22/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
Is there a particular web site to go to or number to ring if you wanted to buy a find a property to open a pub/bar in Hertford?
Try Colin Kyle at Stephen Oates Estate Agents, he should know.


Reply ID 4740

22/02/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
Is there a particular web site to go to or number to ring if you wanted to buy a find a property to open a pub/bar in Hertford?
I really don't mean anything personal with my response but I think this post says a lot. I think A Grove has only just moved out to Hertford and already they are asking about where to go to progress with opening a pub/bar. Perhaps that was the plan all along. Or maybe the view of someone who moves out to Hertford is that the pub/bar line of business is where the money is.


Reply ID 4742

22/02/2005 by Steve

Try David Perkins, he handles alot of commercial property in the town http://www.david-perkins.co.uk/


Reply ID 4744

22/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

What we would all really like to know is what type of place they are considering opening??


Reply ID 4748

22/02/2005 by 2929paul

Before we all get too precious about all the pubs and clubs springing up in Hertford, about 20/25 years ago, Hertford was well known in the area for having numerous pubs. The difference was that they were mainly the old style, locals only pubs. Most were McMullens, some were Benskins. In Port Vale alone at one time there were 3 within about 400 yards (2 opposite Mill Mead school), with another just along the road, opposite the church, in Cowbridge. The change now is in the style of pubs and the attraction to those damn out of towners.


Reply ID 4751

22/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Isn't it the dam out of towners that are putting money in to the towns economy. I remember 10 years ago trawling the town for some life Monday to Wednesday evening to no avail. Now the town always has a thriving atmosphere what ever time of the week or time of day. Yes there are some fights, but unfortunately you will get this any where that you mix young people and alcohol. Take away people visiting from other towns and businesses will struggle to survive and we will end up with a sleepy back water again without all of our great restaurants and bars.


Reply ID 4752

22/02/2005 by Ewoowar

I have no problem with bars and pubs. And I am making no assumption about the type of bar A Grove is interested in. I go to plenty myself. It is more that someone new to Hertford (I assume) sees this trade as the most lucrative above other types. That's just a reflection of the town. And I didn't mention 'dam(n) out of towners'. I would be more than happy to have thousands of them brought in by the coach load. A succesful town cannot exist just by and for those who live in it. But you have to consider why they are coming. Walk around the town on a Saturday or Sunday morning and count the piles of vomit. And yes, the amount of money spent by them might outweigh the cost of cleaning their puke but it's everything else that goes with it.


Reply ID 4753

22/02/2005 by sloopjohnb

Bit of advice to A Grove. Walk around the town and look at the empty properties and some of the working ones as well. And ask yourself why some failed and some survive. Yesterday every pub in the town centre was busy (don't ask how I know - I do) - apart from one, The Stonehouse. The barge was shut. Most had some fire fighters but there was plenty of Joe Public as well. But The Stonehouse relies on the evening trade. Nothing better than a personal tour around town - in the morning, afternoon and evening. That will tell you exactly what does best when - and what the competition is up to as well. And if you're sober at the end of it all - you might be able to make a decision. On the other hand, my fees are quite reasonable.


Reply ID 4785

23/02/2005 by A Grove

For the record, I’m simply a youngish self employed business man looking at his options (I don’t wish to stay doing what I’m doing now for ever). Yes I am new to the area though I’m not sure why that should be an issue one way or another. I wouldn’t imagine everyone on here were actually born and bread and Hertford. Indeed I am sure I can remember Ewooar’s alibi for supporting Arsenal was that he was born near the stadium (though I may be wrong). I worked in bars when I was at university, have frequented them more than I should throughout my life and looking around Hertford I think there is room for one or two more. Its not that I see the bar trade in Hertford as being more lucrative than others its just it is something I know about and might consider getting into if the figures were right. So I will take people’s advice, look around and maybe speak to a few of the people mentioned. As for the type of bar Ewooar, I was thinking maybe one that only sold alocpops (at knockdown prices), was open till 4am, had no bouncers on the door, put on free coaches to and from North London.....oh......and maybe some strippers.....


Reply ID 4786

23/02/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
As for the type of bar Ewooar, I was thinking maybe one that only sold alocpops (at knockdown prices), was open till 4am, had no bouncers on the door, put on free coaches to and from North London.....oh......and maybe some strippers.....
Too late. We already have The Hertford Club.[:D]


Reply ID 4791

23/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

It was me that asked the Bar type Mr Grove. Free Enterprise is fine by me, be but warned you will have to get it right. Baroosh has the majority of custom in the town due to its location, style, size and the fact that they were the first in the town to do anything like it. No11 is on the same level as Baroosh, but has a slightly older clientele, most of regulars know the owners and have done for some years, this alone will prop up their P&L. The Sportsman "Bollypub" will have to come up with something completely different to the both of these as it location and size will, in my opinion not warrant it being another Baroosh/No11 type place. The Town is and always will be a tough place for bars and restaurants, everyone will tell you that where Lussmans is now has had several owners in the last 10 years most of which have fallen flat on their face. Cafe Pasta only lasted for as long as it did as it was part of the Pizza Express group. Opening a bar in Hertford may look like money for old rope, but you will be up against people that have years experience in the trade along with an existing client base. What you have to appreciate is, if you are opening another "trendy" bar, why should people stop going to Baroosh and start going to yours if its the sametype of bar? People are creatures of habit. If you want to be successful, you will have to look at a different USP. But who am I to say, I only drink in these places and have done for years!


Reply ID 4794

23/02/2005 by 2929paul

Realistically, your problem will be McMullens. Unless they are on your side, you probably won't get past the planning and lisence application stage. Macs own so much of Hertford and have so much influence that anything that might threaten their pubs or clubs either has to be in existence already or be very fortunate to escape them.


Reply ID 4836

24/02/2005 by Drama Queen

Well, there's only one club left that's both subversive, apolitical and will get under the Macs corporate radar.... The W.I. Anyone for knitting or jam?


Reply ID 4875

25/02/2005 by A Grove

What's The Woolpack pub like? I'm supposed to be meeting an old friend of mine tonight and am looking to initially meet in one of the 'quieter' pubs in the town.


Reply ID 4876

25/02/2005 by Steve

I wouldn't call the Woolpack 'quieter' - especially not on karaoke night.


Reply ID 4877

25/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
What's The Woolpack pub like? I'm supposed to be meeting an old friend of mine tonight and am looking to initially meet in one of the 'quieter' pubs in the town.
Its a good pub,the current land lady is leaving soon[they hate children]Iwill be going back.


Reply ID 4878

25/02/2005 by A Grove

Cheers. Not too noisy etc?


Reply ID 4879

25/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
Cheers. Not too noisy etc?
should be ok,im not there tonight[:D]


Reply ID 4880

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Its a Kharzi! and is not a quiet pub. Depending on what side of town you live, pick one of the back street boozers if you want quiet, but atmosphere. Suggestions would be Millstream (bottom of Bengeo) Black Horse (West Street) Railway Tavern (Railway Street) White Horse (Castle Street) Or if you want a beer in town The Old Cross Tavern (St Andrews Street) Back bar of the Salisbury Arms Or start early in Baroosh get your important conversations in early when its quite. Position yourselves accordingly, get drunk and admire the view!


Reply ID 4881

25/02/2005 by del

you maybe right Vic i havnt been in there for months due to there attitude[:(]


Reply ID 4882

25/02/2005 by 2929paul

Good choices Vic. Proper pubs. Except Baroosh but you obviously don't go there for the beer.


Reply ID 4883

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

I really learnt how to drink in the Schoolpack, so have very fond memories of it, however I have never been back in there since they put that ridiculous flashing strobe light effect around the ceiling and anywhere that has a karioki night should be flattened!


Reply ID 4884

25/02/2005 by Drama Queen

I like the Salisbury, on a Friday/Saturday everywhere in the world is going to be busy, but you can think and there's no loud music playing etc, so you're not competing against Paul Oakenfold or worse!!! Try the Salisbury.. I like the big armchair best in the back bar!


Reply ID 4886

25/02/2005 by 2929paul

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
I really learnt how to drink in the Schoolpack, so have very fond memories of it, however I have never been back in there since they put that ridiculous flashing strobe light effect around the ceiling and anywhere that has a karioki night should be flattened!
Was that before or after the bikers left?


Reply ID 4887

25/02/2005 by del

no youre thinking of the black birds,they were sweet boys,misunderstood[;)]


Reply ID 4888

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

After the bikers left circa 1988 after the refurb. I


Reply ID 4889

25/02/2005 by del

will out drinking tonight be carefull;its pay day for alot of people and its a full moon![}:)]


Reply ID 4890

25/02/2005 by A Grove

So if I go in The Woolpack at about 7.30ish what am I likely to see?


Reply ID 4891

25/02/2005 by del

without turning this into a joke,[man am i teptted]it sould be fairly quiet


Reply ID 4892

25/02/2005 by A Grove

You've already misled me once Del, keep out of it.......


Reply ID 4893

25/02/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
You've already misled me once Del, keep out of it.......
misled? i like the pub.


Reply ID 4894

25/02/2005 by A Grove

You originally said it was good (I took your word for it and arranged to meet there), Vic said it was in fact a Khazi, you then said as you hadn't actually been there for 3 months he might be right. No problem, I just want to hear from someone who has been there recently....


Reply ID 4896

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Mr Grove, It sounds like you may value my opinion? From some of your recent quotes, I would hazard a guess that this pub may not be quiet your cup of tea. True I have not been in the place for serveral years, but looking through the windows and the very fact that they have a Karioki evening, I would not venture in there, unless on a major pub crawl. But you also strike me as the type of person that like to form there own opinions. Give it a try, let us know what you think and feel safe in the fact that if yu do not like it, the Old Cross Tavern is only down the road!


Reply ID 4897

25/02/2005 by A Grove

I will pop in there now as I have agreed to meet the person there already. I'm just hoping that its not a 'youth pub' and that its an alright place to meet an old friend and have a drink and a chat. I'll relay how it went on Monday...


Reply ID 4898

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by A Grove
I will pop in there now as I have agreed to meet the person there already. I'm just hoping that its not a 'youth pub' and that its an alright place to meet an old friend and have a drink and a chat. I'll relay how it went on Monday...
It always used to be, weather it is still will have to be seen. But where have all the youths that used to drink in Sloppy Joes gone??


Reply ID 4899

25/02/2005 by del

blackbirds.


Reply ID 4900

25/02/2005 by A Grove

I've only been here less than a month so I know very little. I've been to Baroosh (x3) which I really liked (though I can see from here its not to everyone's taste). The Dunscombe which I thought was ok because I like a live band and Bar Humbug which was a bit of a hole but it was ok for me because it was a Saturday afternoon and it had the football scores. Anyway, I'll report back monday...


Reply ID 4901

25/02/2005 by Drama Queen

Where have the youths gone? Hmmm as far as I can make out they're in the usual haunts, Stone House or whatever they call it (regent), Baroosh, Blackbirds and the streets!!!!!! I remember when there were proper bikers and Hells angels in the Woolpack and Blackbirds around late 1970's .. cool.. It was great, never a problem in the town, people too scared when they started up their bikes and speed off.. I was only a young thing.. Can we get them back , they're better than the cops for keeping law and order on the streets!!!


Reply ID 4902

25/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Drama Queen, When we are talking youths we are talking 16 to 21 year olds. As far as I have ever known the average age of the drinker in Baroosh I would say is about 30 years old. As a matter of fact I belive that they have a over 21 policy. Plus I don think theer are many young people that would want/could afford to pay £3.10 for a pint of Stella!


Reply ID 4905

25/02/2005 by Ewoowar

I thought the kids were in The Blackbirds, The White Hart and the Prince Stonehouse.


Reply ID 4906

25/02/2005 by Nicky

I think Baroosh is less of a young peoples bar and more of a "I want to be young" bar, full of Chav's and Mingers, and they make you que! I cannot help smiling to myself when I walk past a huge que of cold underdressed individuals looking like a line up for some poor catwalk. Before everyone starts on me, its just a personal opinion I do have friends that like the place, each to their own!


Reply ID 4912

28/02/2005 by Victor Meldrew

I know you said you did'nt want anyone to "have a go at you", but do you not think that this comment is a little offensive? "I want to be young" bar, full of Chav's and Mingers" My wife and I drink in Baroosh on a regular basis, I am not a chav and I certainly would not class my wife as a Minger! We also never queue.


Reply ID 4913

28/02/2005 by Ewoowar

I'm of the opinion that the word chav has already lost it's novelty. There's something offensive in those who need to call someone a chav.


Reply ID 4922

28/02/2005 by Nicky

ok I'm sorry I offended! I was having some fun moaning about a pub I don't like, it was not aimed at anyone in particular. As I said I have friends that love the place, we have friendly arguments about it all the time. Anyway did you see me get offended when someone stereotyped the people who frequent the OXT (my fav pub). I am still working on the beard! [}:)]


Reply ID 4926

28/02/2005 by Nicky

I was thinking about this walking home from work, and decided to try again as I don't think I sounded very sincere.[V] I really am sorry, and it was very childish of me to say such things. If we were face to face you would have seen the grin on my face and realised I was only messing around, infact please never take anything I say seriously, I am always on the wind up it is just the way I am. I would rather be childish then miserable.


Reply ID 4928

28/02/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Nicky
I was thinking about this walking home from work, and decided to try again as I don't think I sounded very sincere.[V] I really am sorry, and it was very childish of me to say such things. If we were face to face you would have seen the grin on my face and realised I was only messing around, infact please never take anything I say seriously, I am always on the wind up it is just the way I am. I would rather be childish then miserable.
Nicky..............no offence taken. Don't dwell on it.[;)]


Reply ID 4936

01/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Likewise and anyway it was more the Minger comment (protective hubby!)


Reply ID 4938

01/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

What did you think of the Woolpack then Mr Grove? Incindentally I had a couple of beers in the Bardge Saturday evening and was pleasently surprised. But I was Very, Very Drunk!


Reply ID 4945

01/03/2005 by A Grove

I thought it was ok Victor and served its purpose. As I was just meeting an old friend that I hadn't seen for a while I wanted a pub that were could hear each other speak, had a bit of music and wasn't too busy - it was all of them. I'd rate the pub as a good meeting point before moving on into the main bars - I prefer pubs with a bit more going on ie baroosh


Reply ID 4947

01/03/2005 by Drama Queen

I love the comments on this forum.. Its made my day! I know some who frequent Baroosh and their ages... nuff said they are younger than door policy, but you are all right, most of the Youff are in other places, or lurking in street corners.. I would like to be a chav, but haven't lost my class yet so as I don't think I am a minger, and if I was I don't have to look at me.. I'm off to the Barge, my old haunt, for a cracking night and no toddlers.. [;)]


Reply ID 4949

01/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Do you remember when the Bardge was the place to be on a Friday and Saturday night in the Summer??? FYI the majority of people that were drinking there then, are drinking in Baroosh and No11 now!! Spooky!


Reply ID 4951

01/03/2005 by Ewoowar

As a Norf Londoner I used to drive out to the Barge on the occasional Saturday 18 years ago. The Barge has been through some quiet times but when I was there last weekend it was packed.


Reply ID 4952

01/03/2005 by Drama Queen

I was such regular in the Barge that when Don and Carol Blackett were landlord/lady in it, they knew me and had my drink on the bar!!! Then they broke the bad news.. they knew my mum and dad[V] Its been through a lot since then, but many a fond memory of sitting on the grass outside and it was THE spot for Balls Park College students and we completely smothered the road around the pub. I have had a lot of happy memories.. Does anyone remember old Dick who had a plate with a barge on it on the wall in the corner that said "Dick's Swim".. showing my age now!


Reply ID 5027

02/03/2005 by maxrael

Woolpack can be decent... i tend to find it's a much better pub if when you enter the door you sit at the tables on the raised section to the left, rather on the floor to the right... tho often i have to walk straight back out again due to a stupidly large screen showing some kinds of sports!! Oh and it's very nice in the summer when you can sit outside...


Reply ID 5028

02/03/2005 by del

quote:
Originally posted by maxrael
Woolpack can be decent... i tend to find it's a much better pub if when you enter the door you sit at the tables on the raised section to the left, rather on the floor to the right... tho often i have to walk straight back out again due to a stupidly large screen showing some kinds of sports!! Oh and it's very nice in the summer when you can sit outside...
i agree with the screen comment,and TVs in nearly every pub,it makes me so angry when i go out and have some idiot have a pop cos im in the way of the screen..naff off and watch it at home[}:)]


Reply ID 5034

02/03/2005 by maxrael

yeah is it really necessary for so many pubs to have the sport in them? even The Barge brings out a little telly sometimes!!


Reply ID 5035

02/03/2005 by del

when this new place opens it would be good to see an anti tv policy..i can only think of the salsbury that hasnt got one.....


Reply ID 5042

02/03/2005 by Ewoowar

The Salisbury has a great big telly in the front bar. I watched the football on it last Saturday evening.


Reply ID 5061

03/03/2005 by sloopjohnb

Purely co-incidental of course but the only two real ale pubs in town - the White Horse and OXT - do not have TV's, or music, or jukeboxes etc but do have real fires.


Reply ID 5062

03/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by sloopjohnb
Purely co-incidental of course but the only two real ale pubs in town - the White Horse and OXT - do not have TV's, or music, or jukeboxes etc but do have real fires.
Just out of interest? 1) What constitutes "in town"? 2) When did the Bardge and the Ram cease to be real pubs?


Reply ID 5072

03/03/2005 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I'm of the opinion that the word chav has already lost it's novelty. There's something offensive in those who need to call someone a chav.
I suppose it best discribes a "type". No one should feel offended, unless they don't like being one...[;)]


Reply ID 5073

03/03/2005 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by Nicky
I think Baroosh is less of a young peoples bar and more of a "I want to be young" bar, full of Chav's and Mingers, and they make you que! I cannot help smiling to myself when I walk past a huge que of cold underdressed individuals looking like a line up for some poor catwalk. Before everyone starts on me, its just a personal opinion I do have friends that like the place, each to their own!
[:D]I know what you mean. I used to go there a lot, but it is quickly becoming a cattle market. My biggest problem with the place is the amount of people they let in on a Friday and Saturday. Its still nice in the week. For the life of me, I can't work out why people queue outside a pub for half hour, and once in, fight to the bar, only to have to stand so close, you glass is virtually stuck to your chest.


Reply ID 5087

03/03/2005 by skanky

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
quote:
Originally posted by sloopjohnb
Purely co-incidental of course but the only two real ale pubs in town - the White Horse and OXT - do not have TV's, or music, or jukeboxes etc but do have real fires.
Just out of interest? 1) What constitutes "in town"? 2) When did the Bardge and the Ram cease to be real pubs?
He said real ale pubs. [;)]


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03/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Do they not sell real ale?? Im pretty sure the Bardge does Is AK not real Ale??


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03/03/2005 by Steve

Alot of this hinges on how you define "real ale" and consequently "real ale pub". The only "real ale" pubs in town, as far as I'm concerned, are those that sell a variety of beers from different (often small) breweries, and regularly feature guest ales. They also have beer festivals. The Barge and Ram are simply outlets for their owners product (no disrepect intended).


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03/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Agree with the comment about "real ale pubs" selling a range of different guest beers, obviously the Ram is a Mac pub, but I am sure I have seen a chalk board of guest ales in the Bardge and have drunk Adenams and Old Speckled Hen. Does this not make it a real ale pub?


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03/03/2005 by Frenchie

B-A-R-G-E


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03/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

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Originally posted by Frenchie
B-A-R-G-E
We all make spelling mistakes, but not all feel the need to point it out. Your point exactly is??


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03/03/2005 by Frenchie

Err..no point at all. After seeing it for the third time i thought i'd point it out. I will go back to my corner.


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03/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Thank you.


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04/03/2005 by sloopjohnb

Purely personal Victor. Never have been able to drink Macs beer unless needing urgent medical attention for digestive complaint. Despite the many pumps Barge not best known for the quality of; lager still main seller (or cellar?). And Tom well known for love of televised rugby. On the other hand one of few pubs that still hosts regular live music for which he does deserve a big pat on the back - possibly on March 17.


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04/03/2005 by smileyoriley

Does Tom still have his Rottweiler? I remember the days when they were in Hoddesdon and the dog kept attacking people, always was surprised nothing was done about it


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04/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

quote:
Originally posted by sloopjohnb
Purely personal Victor. Never have been able to drink Macs beer unless needing urgent medical attention for digestive complaint. Despite the many pumps Barge not best known for the quality of; lager still main seller (or cellar?). And Tom well known for love of televised rugby. On the other hand one of few pubs that still hosts regular live music for which he does deserve a big pat on the back - possibly on March 17.
Same here, I was brought up on AK (a**e killer) drinking game sessions after many Colts rugby games. But some people rave about it and I belive it has won many awards.


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04/03/2005 by Steve

A-D-N-A-M-S


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04/03/2005 by dawn

didnt know we were back at school. spelling was never my strong point what i enjoy about this site is that everyone seems to ignor the mistakes and just answer the issues!!! if thats to change i best get my dictonary out!totally agree with you vic i have enjoyed a few good pints in the barge including some of adnams seasonal beers, as a real ale drinker i think oxt, black/white horse, and the barge are the places to go. personally dont like AK no matter how many times i've tried it never been able to finish the drink.


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04/03/2005 by Victor Meldrew

I know, its a bit pathetic that someone feels the need to pick up on spooling mistooks! We could all sit here all day picking people up if we so desired.


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04/03/2005 by Frenchie

Steve, best you come and sit over here..


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04/03/2005 by carlos fandango

I was always told that AK doesn't travel well. Tis a damn long way from the brewery to the town centre.


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04/03/2005 by Bobajob

Rather than make any [off-topic] comment I'll just go and sit in the corner with the other people who think literacy is important


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04/03/2005 by smileyoriley

Whhhaaaaaat???? [xx(]


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04/03/2005 by carlos fandango

Is that with an AK BobH?


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04/03/2005 by smileyoriley

sometimes the illiteracy of a conversation is what makes it amusing on this forum hahaha!!!


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04/03/2005 by del

i agree smileyoriley it does make it more fun and as long as we all understand what the other people are trying to portray to us wot doz it matta ? mrs del.


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04/03/2005 by Nicky

Funny how local people seem to dislike local ales. Hertford people seem to have a distaste for AK, but up north where my other half comes from it is almost a delicacy. Then his local ale Hartleys is hated by the locals but whenever we have it on tap it seems to be popular.[?]


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05/03/2005 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by Nicky
Funny how local people seem to dislike local ales. Hertford people seem to have a distaste for AK, but up north where my other half comes from it is almost a delicacy. Then his local ale Hartleys is hated by the locals but whenever we have it on tap it seems to be popular.[?] Because a lot of real ale drinkers are ale snobs and AK isn't cool!


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05/03/2005 by Admin

This thread seems to have lost it's way and gone variously off-topic. Would someone like to start a new topic about the merits of McMullens beer?


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