Topic ID 493
I went to The Hillside this week. I thought about using the ratings to review it.......but........it doesn't feel right. Everything comes out as '4' but only because I think there is a such a big difference between Good and Excellent. The Hillside falls between the two in many areas. I can't go as far as excellent but only because I've been spoilt, and recently. I'd drive back to Lake Vyrnwy in Wales just for a meal at the hotel there. Anyways.............this is about The Hillside. It was really good to see how it has changed since the Hooden Horse days. And it was good to be welcomed in to a friendly atmosphere. The food was very good. Very good. There was hardly a dish on the menu that I did not immediately want to try and those I chose lived up to expectations. Actually I found the menu rather more extensive than I had anticipated. I had the scallops to start (on cauliflower puree with bacon and black pudding - YES!) and the swordfish main. My wife had almost the exact same starter elsewhere in Wales last month only without the black pudding. I reckon the black pudding improves it! And Justin, if you're wondering who I was, well I'm the fussy guy who asked for no caviar. The desert menu was also good. And it was good to finish the evening off in the comfy sofa with a drink. The downside? The swordfish was a little colder than I expected, there was caviar on the menu (I struggle with it morally) and the red rose (okay so it was Valentines Day and the other diners liked it!). Cost? About £40 ph. I will definitely go back again. The whole experience was refreshing, it did not feel like I was in Hertford. There's enough variety on the menu to tempt me back soon and in the knowledge that I can expect the same standard. I would recommend The Hillside, and have already done so today. Well done and thanks.......... [^]
Reply ID 4397
quote:nice 1. i take u thought the rose was tacky? if you come back any other day of the year, you wont get any thing for free!!!hahaha. your comment about the swordfish, it should have been rareish, so it wouldnt be roasting hot in the middle. whats the moral prob with caviar? the scallop dish is a bit of a classic dish, the combination work really well. THe restaurant normally has a bit more space because it was all 2,s on the 14th we got rid of the large tables and got some more small ones, also we never use tablecloths, but did last nite cos the replacement tables were not friendly to the eye. like you say i dont think the hillside is excellent, i think it is a good quality local restaurant with great ingrediens , well chosen wines, and hopefully ran with TLC. oh yeah nearly forgot, a great looking chef. But how do you define excellent? id class Tom Aikens, Gordon Ramsey, PEtrus, Morgan M as excellent nowhere in hertford, i mean nowhere comes a shade near any of these places. I change the menu quite frequently, so there should always be something different when you return. ps , i see all of your comments, but the rose, i think you are nitpicking sir, and i mean that in the nicest possible way.[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I went to The Hillside this week. I thought about using the ratings to review it.......but........it doesn't feel right. Everything comes out as '4' but only because I think there is a such a big difference between Good and Excellent. The Hillside falls between the two in many areas. I can't go as far as excellent but only because I've been spoilt, and recently. I'd drive back to Lake Vyrnwy in Wales just for a meal at the hotel there. Anyways.............this is about The Hillside. It was really good to see how it has changed since the Hooden Horse days. And it was good to be welcomed in to a friendly atmosphere. The food was very good. Very good. There was hardly a dish on the menu that I did not immediately want to try and those I chose lived up to expectations. Actually I found the menu rather more extensive than I had anticipated. I had the scallops to start (on cauliflower puree with bacon and black pudding - YES!) and the swordfish main. My wife had almost the exact same starter elsewhere in Wales last month only without the black pudding. I reckon the black pudding improves it! And Justin, if you're wondering who I was, well I'm the fussy guy who asked for no caviar. The desert menu was also good. And it was good to finish the evening off in the comfy sofa with a drink. The downside? The swordfish was a little colder than I expected, there was caviar on the menu (I struggle with it morally) and the red rose (okay so it was Valentines Day and the other diners liked it!). Cost? About £40 ph. I will definitely go back again. The whole experience was refreshing, it did not feel like I was in Hertford. There's enough variety on the menu to tempt me back soon and in the knowledge that I can expect the same standard. I would recommend The Hillside, and have already done so today. Well done and thanks.......... [^]
Reply ID 4398
Swordfish WAS good. My wife comes from a family who traded at Billingsgate and she knows a darn sight more about fish than I ever will. So the scallops and swordfish ran the gauntlet! Re. the rose.....I agree.....not exactly a downside.....just not my thing. And TLC...............counts for a LOT.
Reply ID 4399
Re. your other post this evening......I take it you don't own The Hillside. And where would you move to given the opportunity?
Reply ID 4400
You weren't meant to eat the Rose! Ewoowar
Reply ID 4411
quote:i own a small part of it. hertford is ok, but i dont feel that in my experience of being here for 2 years is that the town cannot sustain a restaurant of similar quality, i just dont think enough people are interested to be honest
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Re. your other post this evening......I take it you don't own The Hillside. And where would you move to given the opportunity?
Reply ID 4413
i own a small part of it. hertford is ok, but i dont feel that in my experience of being here for 2 years is that the town cannot sustain a restaurant of similar quality, i just dont think enough people are interested to be honest [/quote] I disagree Justin, I know a large number of people that have been crying out for a selection of quality places to eat in Hertford, most of them have eaten in your establishment. I for one have been fed up with the lack of restaurant choice in Hertford in the past, with more or less only Italian chains or Indian/ Chinese. Once we get a number of decent independent places, people will not feel the necessity to travel to London to eat out. I have still not had the pleasure of eating at The Hillside and unfortunately will not be for a while, as the missus is 7 months gone and finds its uncomfortable to eat out these days.
Reply ID 4414
hang in there Justin believe me its the same for every industry at the moment[:(]
Reply ID 4415
I think people make assumptions about the quality of the establishment and never venture through the door. I, for example, had not been to The Hillside until this week. My neighbours would like it there too but they had not even considered going. The same with Elbert Wurlings.........I've still got it fixed in my head that it's a kids bar. Word of mouth is important in a place like Hertford, as well as using what little local media we have. Stick with it Justin.
Reply ID 4424
I agree Ewoowar, word of mouth is a very powerful weapon. As I said I have spoken to my pals that have eaten there and have said good things, if it were not for the fact that my missus is up the duff, I would be booking a table there and at the Waterside. I think we could do with a decent indpendant Italian in Hertford, one that sells more than Pasta and Pizza.
Reply ID 4461
Justin..Hertford needs a place like the Hillside, however I suggest that you sort the Website out, either get rid of it or update it..I'm sure you could include reviews from this site. I've been to the Hillside a few times(too few..kids!) and rate it highly but a couple of times i've accessed the website and found it unchanged, this gives one a sense of lack of attention to detail which I know is not the case with your cooking but may dissuade people from further afield visiting.
Reply ID 4462
I agree........a few empty and/or out of date pages. Doesn't detract from the quality of the establishment but might make the inquisitive potential customer think twice.
Reply ID 4465
i agree too. i have gone on about it til blue in the face. out of my durastiction, the other thing that annoys me is that the website says we are closed monday, when we have been open for a year.... its got to get sorted out, and quickly.
Reply ID 4545
Gone on about it to who? Websites is not tricky science in 2005. Steve..........some advice/help me thinks!
Reply ID 4555
quote:my boss, thats his prerogative .
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Gone on about it to who? Websites is not tricky science in 2005. Steve..........some advice/help me thinks!
Reply ID 4637
It's also about bringing people from out of town. I do like a good restaurant. I visited the Cabinet at Reed and enjoyed that experience but as stated above, the fact the website is not up to date and half the pages do not function is very off putting. Perhaps also some photographic examples of the food could help. I know someone that could provide this service for you - he often takes pictures for Paul Bloxhams articles. still I know you've heard all this before, perhaps your boss should start reading this page!!
Reply ID 5151
A question for those in the know about this fine establishment. What's the policy on kids for an early evening meal? The clan Fandango tends to travel en masse.
Reply ID 5156
I haven't taken wee ewoowar there yet. I'd be interested in how you found it for children.
Reply ID 5159
I seem to remember this being discussed on another thread a while ago - have a dig through the archive. If memory serves me, I seem to think that while children weren't unwelcome, they weren't particularly catered for (i.e. no kids menus etc.), and that lunchtime might be better than evening.
Reply ID 5167
It's just we normally have dinner out thurs or friday evening to break the week up for everyone. Kids menu not really a factor....my 5 yr old is hooked on masterchef at the moment!More concerned about horrified reactions from mine hosts...which we have had from some pubs that purport to do food.
Reply ID 5169
quote:hi carlos. the hillside will accomodate you if you plan to come early, we dont allow babys and as long as your kids are well behaved , no problem. We have to bear in mind our other customers , as the restaurant is small a baby crying or a kid mucking about can be off puting. Im on holiday next week so i will not be there.[:D]
Originally posted by carlos fandango
It's just we normally have dinner out thurs or friday evening to break the week up for everyone. Kids menu not really a factor....my 5 yr old is hooked on masterchef at the moment!More concerned about horrified reactions from mine hosts...which we have had from some pubs that purport to do food.
Reply ID 5170
I can perfectly understand your point of view and agree with it entirely. And I wont book next week then....have a good hols.
Reply ID 5414
Justin, I came to the Hillside last night with my heavily pregnant wife to eat. Unfortunately, after reading the menu, my wife decided, although there were things on it that she would eat if need be, she did not fancy anything there. (Personally , I liked the look of everything)What she really wanted was a nice Chicken dish. Basically what I am asking is, why does the menu never seem to have chicken on it?? Its the same at The Waterside as well. (we went there after, left and ended up in Lussmans!) However, we will be back when she decides she wants a steak!!! 5 weeks to go and don't I know it!
Reply ID 5425
[quote]Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Justin,
I came to the Hillside last night with my heavily pregnant wife to eat. Unfortunately, after reading the menu, my wife decided, although there were things on it that she would eat if need be, she did not fancy anything there. (Personally , I liked the look of everything)What she really wanted was a nice Chicken dish.
Basically what I am asking is, why does the menu never seem to have chicken on it?? Its the same at The Waterside as well. (we went there after, left and ended up in Lussmans!)
However, we will be back when she decides she wants a steak!!!
5 weeks to go and don't I know it!
[/quot
ok, your wifes condition granted, but i feel that chicken is available in restaurants everywhere, and to be honest i cannot find a chicken i am happy to serve. Im working on it though, i used to do a french poullon noir chicken last year.
That aside, last night i had seven starters and 9 main courses, which is in my opinion quite a choice, and we had duck on the menu,i dont want to have duck and chicken.
I try to use wherever possible free range , organic and rare breeds, and try to find the best possible ingredients that i am happy to serve.
What i suggest to you is that you come to the hillside and not go for the usual steak and chicken experience, although its nice, but we offer so much more.
Funnily enough though i have some boneless poussin for tomorrow.
Reply ID 5430
duck is red meat and chicken white so why dont you like having both on the menu? not that i would complain as i like both even though i am a very fussy eater im sure i would have had the duck! i do love chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with pepers and basil one of my favorite dishes![:D] have not managed to visit you yet but i will soon and let you know what i think! just dont get defensive if im not happy, as i said im fussy! del hates going anywhere with me as there is uually only one dish or nothing i will eat so your pre warned![:I]
Reply ID 5433
quote:sorry but you wont get the 80s throwback dish of "chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with peppers and basil" yuk. If you like that sort of thing you cant be that fussy!!![:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by dawn
duck is red meat and chicken white so why dont you like having both on the menu? not that i would complain as i like both even though i am a very fussy eater im sure i would have had the duck! i do love chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with pepers and basil one of my favorite dishes![:D] have not managed to visit you yet but i will soon and let you know what i think! just dont get defensive if im not happy, as i said im fussy! del hates going anywhere with me as there is uually only one dish or nothing i will eat so your pre warned![:I]
Reply ID 5438
Justin of course you can be fussy - doesn't mean you have to be somebody that only eats the most freshest organic flown in from remote islands top class food! Some people like what they like and that's that - sure you may say 'go somewhere else then' but the point is Dawn can be as fussy as she likes and still like her chicken in white wine sauce [;)]
Reply ID 5443
quote:I must say, i do not understand the point you are trying to make[:0]
Originally posted by smileyoriley
Justin of course you can be fussy - doesn't mean you have to be somebody that only eats the most freshest organic flown in from remote islands top class food! Some people like what they like and that's that - sure you may say 'go somewhere else then' but the point is Dawn can be as fussy as she likes and still like her chicken in white wine sauce [;)]
Reply ID 5446
I must say, i do not understand the point you are trying to make Really!? I would have thought it was blatently obvious.
Reply ID 5447
My point is that you can be as fussy as you like and if that means you want egg & chips not egg & fries then that is still being fussy [:D][:D]
Reply ID 5448
Justin, Thank you for replying. As I said, I would have eaten everything on the menu. The point of the question was not if you menu was varied enough for most palates, but, why do you not have a chicken dish. Which you answered. You maybe interested to know, that all of the people I have spoken to this weekend re you menu, were in agreement, you food is very good etc etc, but they could not understand why you do not have a chicken dish. But at the end of the day, its your restaurant and your menu so............ But remember even most vegetarians eat chicken!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply ID 5451
quote:ok, your point taken. But im sure our customers wont die from chicken withdrawal symptoms, as is the unavailabilty of such birds...[:D] come and try my poussin Victor!
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Justin, Thank you for replying. As I said, I would have eaten everything on the menu. The point of the question was not if you menu was varied enough for most palates, but, why do you not have a chicken dish. Which you answered. You maybe interested to know, that all of the people I have spoken to this weekend re you menu, were in agreement, you food is very good etc etc, but they could not understand why you do not have a chicken dish. But at the end of the day, its your restaurant and your menu so............ But remember even most vegetarians eat chicken!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply ID 5453
Guess what!! The wife wont eat them! they look like baby chickens!!!!!!!! My pal chefed us up Huntmans Chicken last night with Sour Cream Mash, have you tried that? it was fantastic and not creamy!
Reply ID 5454
quote:But my point is, sureley if you go out to a restaurant, you go to eat the food that the chef has created, lovingly prepared and executed, or do people go to a restaurant, discard the menu and expect something else? You should always keep an open mind when reading a menu,and not make the quick assumption when reading,"oh, i dont like this" or " i dont like the sound of that". You go to a restaurant to eat the food on offer there, so allergys aside you shouldnt really be there if you are not prepared to eat off the menu. Trying, tasting , experimenting, experiencing, its what food is all about. Enjoy.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
My point is that you can be as fussy as you like and if that means you want egg & chips not egg & fries then that is still being fussy [:D][:D]
Reply ID 5455
quote:They are baby chickens. Dear o dear. Dinner at your house sounds like a drama![:D]
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Guess what!! The wife wont eat them! they look like baby chickens!!!!!!!! My pal chefed us up Huntmans Chicken last night with Sour Cream Mash, have you tried that? it was fantastic and not creamy!
Reply ID 5457
quote:You learn to work round things and eat out a lot.
Originally posted by justinquote:They are baby chickens. Dear o dear. Dinner at your house sounds like a drama![:D]
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Guess what!! The wife wont eat them! they look like baby chickens!!!!!!!! My pal chefed us up Huntmans Chicken last night with Sour Cream Mash, have you tried that? it was fantastic and not creamy!
Reply ID 5459
quote:Justin your original post was what I was referring to, not the quality of the food on your menu. You pointed out that Dawn couldn't be that fussy if she liked food like Chicken in White Wine sauce. This is not correct. [:)]
Originally posted by justinquote:sorry but you wont get the 80s throwback dish of "chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with peppers and basil" yuk. If you like that sort of thing you cant be that fussy!!![:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by dawn
duck is red meat and chicken white so why dont you like having both on the menu? not that i would complain as i like both even though i am a very fussy eater im sure i would have had the duck! i do love chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with pepers and basil one of my favorite dishes![:D] have not managed to visit you yet but i will soon and let you know what i think! just dont get defensive if im not happy, as i said im fussy! del hates going anywhere with me as there is uually only one dish or nothing i will eat so your pre warned![:I]
Reply ID 5460
except chicken in white wine is a big eighties isn't it? do people still eat that???
Reply ID 5461
quote:Chicken in white wine is a bit of a generalisation, considering the sauces in many great chicken dishes are white wine based. For instance I like to slowly roast a whole chicken in a bottle of white wine with herbs and garlic etc, finishing it off by reducing the stock and adding creme fresh. Would that classify as an 80's dish??
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
except chicken in white wine is a big eighties isn't it? do people still eat that???
Reply ID 5463
quote:sorry, i think you got the wrong impression.
Originally posted by smileyorileyquote:Justin your original post was what I was referring to, not the quality of the food on your menu. You pointed out that Dawn couldn't be that fussy if she liked food like Chicken in White Wine sauce. This is not correct. [:)]
Originally posted by justinquote:sorry but you wont get the 80s throwback dish of "chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with peppers and basil" yuk. If you like that sort of thing you cant be that fussy!!![:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by dawn
duck is red meat and chicken white so why dont you like having both on the menu? not that i would complain as i like both even though i am a very fussy eater im sure i would have had the duck! i do love chicken in a creamy white wine sauce with pepers and basil one of my favorite dishes![:D] have not managed to visit you yet but i will soon and let you know what i think! just dont get defensive if im not happy, as i said im fussy! del hates going anywhere with me as there is uually only one dish or nothing i will eat so your pre warned![:I]
Reply ID 5464
Have I set a cat amongst the pigeons? or Chickens?
Reply ID 5493
i was only joking... nothing wrong with a bit of poultry in chardonnay if that's what floats your boat...!
Reply ID 5510
quote:hahahaha. very nice. im not saying dont come, im saying you should try the chefs offering in any restaurant, then judge it. Because you warned me about your fusiness, i dont know what to do, but me, and this is purely me, i would never dream of going to a decent restaurant and asking if i could have tis dish without this in it or that in it, or can you do this instead! My point is that to an extent the menu is the reason you come, and if you choose something as it comes then you are seeing for yourself the true skill of the person cooking, and knowing that this is the best the chef can do with the ingredients. Only then you can comment.
Originally posted by dawn
i make my own chicken dish, organic chicken with roasted peppers home grown basil and jersy cream,[:)] i sometimes add a bit of ginger as well.[:D] im sorry if that makes me stuck in the eighties[:(]. i did say i would try your duck! i said i was fussy not because i only eat at the top establishments but because i dont like so many basic ingredients eg. fish, mushrooms, tomatoes, courgettes pineapple ect and yes i have, and still do try them to see if my tastes have changed. when i go to out i like to try something new! if by being stuck in the eighties you dont think i would like the hillside then please let me know and i will go else where for my birthday meal[:(] or just go and get very drunk and drown my sorrows for being stuck in a time warp!!!!![:D]quote:
Reply ID 5511
thankyou justin i will come along [:D]and i never ask for something off the menu then say but leave something out.[:)] as i said i will always try to have something new when im out and it if has ingredients in that i dont like i still try them in case they are cooked in a way i can come to enjoy.[:)] for example a pub in northumberland i ordered cajun chicken that came with rice i expected that it would be dry and i might not like it but it arrived the chicken was in a cajun sauce with baby veg and for the first time it my life i ate and enjoyed the baby sweetcorn that was among the baby veg[:D][:D]since then i have enjoyed baby sweetcorn in a veriety of dishes.........still dont seem able to stomach them on there own [xx(]but i cant say no to a dish just because there in it! [:)][:)]see fussy but i will try!
Reply ID 5555
2nd visit. 4 people, 3 courses, coffees, 3 bottles of wine and something warming to see us on our way............under £50 per head I say that's good value.
Reply ID 5854
quote:Have persevered with chicken recently and poussin, and tried doing it a number of ways, but, it just doesnt sell. The majority of our customers come to the hillside to try something a little different and i believe they find chiken boring, and i must say, so do i.[:D]
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Justin, Thank you for replying. As I said, I would have eaten everything on the menu. The point of the question was not if you menu was varied enough for most palates, but, why do you not have a chicken dish. Which you answered. You maybe interested to know, that all of the people I have spoken to this weekend re you menu, were in agreement, you food is very good etc etc, but they could not understand why you do not have a chicken dish. But at the end of the day, its your restaurant and your menu so............ But remember even most vegetarians eat chicken!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply ID 5938
Hmmmm... Tables are too close together, and too small. Food overpriced for what it is, and no atmosphere. Sorry, doesn't get my vote. I wouldn't go again.
Reply ID 5948
quote:Id be interested if you could elaborate Nora, just out of interest.
Originally posted by nora batty
Hmmmm... Tables are too close together, and too small. Food overpriced for what it is, and no atmosphere. Sorry, doesn't get my vote. I wouldn't go again.
Reply ID 5949
My partner and my friends partner are biggish blokes - 6ft 2" and 15 stone each and could not sit without half of their body off the table. The next table was inches away, meaning not only did we invade their personal space, we were also unwitting listeners to their conversations and they to ours. The food was fairly simple - i think we had swordfish, pheasant and can't remember what else (but not memorable says a lot really) and only 2 other small parties were in there - and it was Friday night. Does that help?
Reply ID 5950
quote:depends on what you expected on the food front. As for the size of the place, we cant do anything about that. You obviously thought the food was utter garbage. Interesting!!!
Originally posted by nora batty
My partner and my friends partner are biggish blokes - 6ft 2" and 15 stone each and could not sit without half of their body off the table. The next table was inches away, meaning not only did we invade their personal space, we were also unwitting listeners to their conversations and they to ours. The food was fairly simple - i think we had swordfish, pheasant and can't remember what else (but not memorable says a lot really) and only 2 other small parties were in there - and it was Friday night. Does that help?
Reply ID 5954
I have booked a table for 2 on Sat night My last visit was very enjoyable and I am hoping for a similar experience !
Reply ID 5960
But you can do something about where the tables go.......we went to a restaurant last Sat where it sounded very similar to Nora's experience and we didn't stay simply because of the same thing. We ended up at a restaurant we always go to which is great but we had wanted to try a different place for a change. My partner is also 6' and 15 stone which I wouldn't say was particularly huge but is large enough to need space to be comfortable. At 5'2, it still bothers me to be too close to another table.
Reply ID 5971
quote:we onlt have 7 tables as it is, anything less would not be worthwhile[?]
Originally posted by smileyoriley
But you can do something about where the tables go.......we went to a restaurant last Sat where it sounded very similar to Nora's experience and we didn't stay simply because of the same thing. We ended up at a restaurant we always go to which is great but we had wanted to try a different place for a change. My partner is also 6' and 15 stone which I wouldn't say was particularly huge but is large enough to need space to be comfortable. At 5'2, it still bothers me to be too close to another table.
Reply ID 5978
Surely worthwhile removing one table if it increases business? better to have 6 full tables and people coming back for more...
Reply ID 5980
quote:i think the tables are a bit chunky and the chairs dont fit, the decision on furniture was a wrong one. Funny enough we used to have 8 tables and took one away. Recently after over 2 years of trading we have had a few quiet friday nights, i doubt the reason but it is normally very difficult to get a table. Where do you recommend to eat out locally Nora? If you think the hillside is poor and overpriced, im extremely keen on your opinion, as i have trouble trying to find somewhere to go.
Originally posted by nora batty
Surely worthwhile removing one table if it increases business? better to have 6 full tables and people coming back for more...
Reply ID 5981
It's the Holy Grail, isn't it. (whoops! don't want to get mixed up in that story!) The last good local dining experience I had was at The Brocket Arms in Ayot St.Lawrence last month. Unpretentious, very friendly, good food and fairly priced. Dessert was crap actually, but everything else more than made up for it. I've heard Auberge du Lac is good, but I think a wee bit pretentious for me! The Beehive is pretty good too.
Reply ID 5982
I prefer the Brocket Arms for a drink on a winters evening.
Reply ID 5983
surely you don't mean the Beehive in WGC?
Reply ID 5984
Actually, Justin, there is an idea that i have always wanted to experiment with - a "local elebrity chef" night. By that I mean an ordinary Jo Schmoe like me gets to help you prepare my favourite recipes, yes - me in the kitchen, then I help serve it up to all my (paying) mates and anyone else interested in coming on "Local amateur cook" night. I reckon loads of my mates would come for the pleasure of having me serve up and talk them through my choices. The atmosphere would be great, nobody would blame the restaurant for the menu, and the novelty value would get publicity. I reckon amateur foodies all over Hertford would be queueing up and bringing in all their friends. It would of course be open to everyone (not just my mates) so it would be a varied dining experience. Who knows, some amateur chefs might build up a local following. (COOKING TONIGHT: NORA BATTY)
Reply ID 5985
No,Posted - 15 Apr 2005 : 17:04:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- surely you don't mean the Beehive in WGC? No, the one somewhere on the way to Cuffley.
Reply ID 5987
quote:its allright for pubgrub innit! I know you didnt actually compare auberge to the hillside but its a completely different kettle of fish, I went to midsummer house in cambridge on tuesday, and i dont often have great experiences in restaurants but, this was out of this world and amongst the best food i have ever eaten , well worthy of its 2 michelin star rating,
Originally posted by nora batty
No,Posted - 15 Apr 2005 : 17:04:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- surely you don't mean the Beehive in WGC? No, the one somewhere on the way to Cuffley.
Reply ID 5988
I don't know that one but nearly fainted when you said the Beehive! surely Cambridge is a bit far to go for a meal unless you're going to make a night of it?
Reply ID 5989
I don't know the Beehive in Welwyn, but it sounds as though it's one to avoid![xx(]
Reply ID 5999
I like the idea of a local Celeb chef, S**T is that my onion and port gravy i smell burning!!!! Hoewever, I would cook a chicken dish that even you would like Justin!
Reply ID 6003
quote:it's simply a chain pub/restaurant which is why I couldn't believe you were comparing it [:D]
Originally posted by nora batty
I don't know the Beehive in Welwyn, but it sounds as though it's one to avoid![xx(]
Reply ID 6005
quote:Well, for me i would travel miles to eat good food, and for me making a night of it is staying in the restaurant eating great food and drinking fine wine. Depends how important good food is to you, food and wine are 2 of the most important things in my life.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
I don't know that one but nearly fainted when you said the Beehive! surely Cambridge is a bit far to go for a meal unless you're going to make a night of it?
Reply ID 6006
sounds like you might have competition in the kitchen justin! but to tell you the truth once a month local guest chef sounds like fun, and as long as you advertise the fact its not you in the kitchens so your regulars cant complain, could well be a winning concept![:D]
Reply ID 6007
Hands up if you'd come to dinner at the Hillside if Nora Batty was cooking for Victor Meldrew!
Reply ID 6008
quote:I'd be a fool not to!
Originally posted by nora batty
Hands up if you'd come to dinner at the Hillside if Nora Batty was cooking for Victor Meldrew!
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quote:Believe it or not I also enjoy excellent food and we regular travel into London. I also rate the Cabinet at Reed as pretty good. My point being that to travel that far all the time is not ideal.
Originally posted by justinquote:Well, for me i would travel miles to eat good food, and for me making a night of it is staying in the restaurant eating great food and drinking fine wine. Depends how important good food is to you, food and wine are 2 of the most important things in my life.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
I don't know that one but nearly fainted when you said the Beehive! surely Cambridge is a bit far to go for a meal unless you're going to make a night of it?
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we onlt have 7 tables as it is, anything less would not be worthwhile Maybe I shouldn't post this, as I don't eat at the Hillside, but if crowded tables are a problem, why don't you eliminate the sofa area and put tables down there. The sofa area is very nice, but maybe the Hillside is too small to try to do everything.
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quote:thats my point too.
Originally posted by smileyorileyquote:Believe it or not I also enjoy excellent food and we regular travel into London. I also rate the Cabinet at Reed as pretty good. My point being that to travel that far all the time is not ideal.
Originally posted by justinquote:Well, for me i would travel miles to eat good food, and for me making a night of it is staying in the restaurant eating great food and drinking fine wine. Depends how important good food is to you, food and wine are 2 of the most important things in my life.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
I don't know that one but nearly fainted when you said the Beehive! surely Cambridge is a bit far to go for a meal unless you're going to make a night of it?
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quote:That is something i have been trying to do since day 1. Unfortunately the powers that be, disagree.
Originally posted by wizkid
we onlt have 7 tables as it is, anything less would not be worthwhile Maybe I shouldn't post this, as I don't eat at the Hillside, but if crowded tables are a problem, why don't you eliminate the sofa area and put tables down there. The sofa area is very nice, but maybe the Hillside is too small to try to do everything.
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get them to log on, justin.
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get them to log on, justin. Not just to solve the table problem, but to look in wonder at the amount of publicity generated for Hillside by Hertford Online[;)]
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quote:but you dont eat at the hillside, like u say
Originally posted by wizkid
get them to log on, justin. Not just to solve the table problem, but to look in wonder at the amount of publicity generated for Hillside by Hertford Online[;)]
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that's no way to gain a customer or publicise the Hillside Justin
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quote:obviously the publicity we gain is not enough because we have been open for over 2 years and like u say you dont eat there.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
that's no way to gain a customer or publicise the Hillside Justin
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I haven't eaten there yet, I am sure we will. It is just that we are poor empoverished people (teachers) on limited incomes, and eating out for us is more chicken (note chicken) vindaloo or fish and chips, and not swordfish or pheasant. Rest assured, when a special occasion arises, (like my imminent 60th birthday.......I will try not to smell of urine....) we will leg it to the Hillside. CU then!!![:D]
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so is that really a reason for us not to be able to say what we like about a restaurant etc?
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Are all you guys shareholders in The Hillside or what???? We went for a celebratory meal on one occasion and were seated at a tiny table backing onto the door to the lavatories. So far as the food went - we basically ended up with fantastically expensive fish, chips and mushy peas. The service was pleasant, but the eating area unbelievably cramped. Luckily I knew the lady at the table across the aisle and we had quite a nice chat, but given Mr Trimble and I had wanted an intimate meal, this wasn't quite what we had planned. Another reviewer said it was nice to relax on the sofas with a coffee after the meal - we would have loved to have given that a try, but by 9.00 o'clock the early diners were well and truly rooted in for the night so the rest of the restaurant did not get a look in. We've not been back. [:I] Terri Trimble
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quote:Ah well, cant please everybody. [:(] I believe we are fantastically inexpensive, but what do i know.
Originally posted by Terri Trimble
Are all you guys shareholders in The Hillside or what???? We went for a celebratory meal on one occasion and were seated at a tiny table backing onto the door to the lavatories. So far as the food went - we basically ended up with fantastically expensive fish, chips and mushy peas. The service was pleasant, but the eating area unbelievably cramped. Luckily I knew the lady at the table across the aisle and we had quite a nice chat, but given Mr Trimble and I had wanted an intimate meal, this wasn't quite what we had planned. Another reviewer said it was nice to relax on the sofas with a coffee after the meal - we would have loved to have given that a try, but by 9.00 o'clock the early diners were well and truly rooted in for the night so the rest of the restaurant did not get a look in. We've not been back. [:I] Terri Trimble
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I know these are 2 completly different types of restaraunt, but the steak menu is taken from the Goucho Grill which has several branches all over the city and is a fantastic Argentinian steak house. Although not a great difference in price the Hillside and to be fair, the Waterside are more expensive. Saying that the price of a resonable bottle of Sav Blanc in Baroosh is more expensive than All Bar One Butlars Wharf. So I guess we are getting stung everywhere in Hertford. The other thing is that people are still paying the pricein Hertford, so I guess its just a case of supply and demand. We all have the luxury to pick and choose where we eat, I personally have still not eaten here, but have heard good and bad reports (the bad being the space) But I will sample it as soon as the missus is ready after the impending birth of our 1st. And yes, as you may have guessed I am a right fussy bugger!!! Keep it up Justin! 225g 300g 400g BIFE DE CUADRIL 9.00 12.00 15.00 Rump - a uniquely lean and flavourful steak from Pampas grass-fed cattle. BIFE DE CHORIZO 10.50 13.50 17.00 Sirloin - the quintessential Argentine 'bife' identified by its belt of tasty crackling. BIFE DE LOMO 14.50 19.00 24.50 Fillet - the tenderest cut of all a true delicacy. BIFE ANCHO 10.50 13.50 17.00 Ribeye - a marbled sirloin steak with a rich centre and tender skirt. ALL STEAKS CAN BE SERVED IN LARGER SIZES
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quote:I would say that getting stung is the wrong term. If anything its cheaper to buy as a caterter in london than in the home counties. but i dont think the price reflects. as for the gaucho grill, i agree the meat is good, but this is a speciality for them, and obviously they have links with argentinian meat suppliers, but i will say to buy beef from argentina is extremely inconsistent and unreliable as i have encountered, and being a scotsman,from aberdeen. scotch beef is the best in the world
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
I know these are 2 completly different types of restaraunt, but the steak menu is taken from the Goucho Grill which has several branches all over the city and is a fantastic Argentinian steak house. Although not a great difference in price the Hillside and to be fair, the Waterside are more expensive. Saying that the price of a resonable bottle of Sav Blanc in Baroosh is more expensive than All Bar One Butlars Wharf. So I guess we are getting stung everywhere in Hertford. The other thing is that people are still paying the pricein Hertford, so I guess its just a case of supply and demand. We all have the luxury to pick and choose where we eat, I personally have still not eaten here, but have heard good and bad reports (the bad being the space) But I will sample it as soon as the missus is ready after the impending birth of our 1st. And yes, as you may have guessed I am a right fussy bugger!!! Keep it up Justin! 225g 300g 400g BIFE DE CUADRIL 9.00 12.00 15.00 Rump - a uniquely lean and flavourful steak from Pampas grass-fed cattle. BIFE DE CHORIZO 10.50 13.50 17.00 Sirloin - the quintessential Argentine 'bife' identified by its belt of tasty crackling. BIFE DE LOMO 14.50 19.00 24.50 Fillet - the tenderest cut of all a true delicacy. BIFE ANCHO 10.50 13.50 17.00 Ribeye - a marbled sirloin steak with a rich centre and tender skirt. ALL STEAKS CAN BE SERVED IN LARGER SIZES
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quote:Plus just think of all that environmental damage caused by improting beef from the other side of the world - especially when we have perfecty good beef on our small island. Plus how much Argentine Beef is grazed on land that used to be the best rainforest in the world?
Originally posted by justin
as for the gaucho grill, i agree the meat is good, but this is a speciality for them, and obviously they have links with argentinian meat suppliers, but i will say to buy beef from argentina is extremely inconsistent and unreliable as i have encountered, and being a scotsman,from aberdeen. scotch beef is the best in the world
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quote:Wow Justin you really know how to put off prospective diners! There are those of us that have put our views over to say that we don't like to be spending our hard earned cash in a restaurant that is cramped or uncomfortable to eat in. There also those of us that have admitted to never having visited but at the same time pointed out that we wouldn't like to go to visit a restaurant for the first time to find the conditions in this way. Your response to people's comments are not being taking particularly well - I find this strange. Surely you need the feedback....every business does. If you don't appreciate it then fine but you are really doing yourself no favours by responding in such a way.
Originally posted by justinquote:id like to point out, that the hillside is a local neighbourhood restaurant in a pub that is specifically meant to be a place where locals can gather socialise and eat good wuality food at a realistic price. As far as an intimite evening goes, we have never advertised ourselves as that, as is the size, so why did you expect that mrs trimble? Why didnt you go to auberge du lac or zodiac for an intimate celebritory dinner. I believe that the majority of people that believe the hillside is expensive and cramped are naive and extremely ignorant.
Originally posted by Terri Trimble
Are all you guys shareholders in The Hillside or what???? We went for a celebratory meal on one occasion and were seated at a tiny table backing onto the door to the lavatories. So far as the food went - we basically ended up with fantastically expensive fish, chips and mushy peas. The service was pleasant, but the eating area unbelievably cramped. Luckily I knew the lady at the table across the aisle and we had quite a nice chat, but given Mr Trimble and I had wanted an intimate meal, this wasn't quite what we had planned. Another reviewer said it was nice to relax on the sofas with a coffee after the meal - we would have loved to have given that a try, but by 9.00 o'clock the early diners were well and truly rooted in for the night so the rest of the restaurant did not get a look in. We've not been back. [:I] Terri Trimble
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I have to agree with Smiley. When I moved to Hertford from Islington I was made up to find a place like the Hillside. I went within the first week and went back several times, everytime we had different people to visit. I have had better for less at some top restaurants but that takes nothing away from what I agree is good quality food in a pleasant and original environment. The only thing that has put me off going back since is discovering this website...
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I wasnt comparing the quality of the meat and agreed we should always buy British. But if you really think that the fact that Gouchos charge £5 less for a Sirloin Steak than the majority of restaurants and Gastro pubs in Hertford not a rip off for local customers, then I have obviously got the wrong end of the stick, as I always thought that good City eateries were more expensive than local ones, Such as the Butlars Wharf Chop house, who incidentally charge £22 for a 10 oz Sirloin.
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quote:youve got the wrong end of the stick.
Originally posted by smileyorileyquote:Wow Justin you really know how to put off prospective diners! There are those of us that have put our views over to say that we don't like to be spending our hard earned cash in a restaurant that is cramped or uncomfortable to eat in. There also those of us that have admitted to never having visited but at the same time pointed out that we wouldn't like to go to visit a restaurant for the first time to find the conditions in this way. Your response to people's comments are not being taking particularly well - I find this strange. Surely you need the feedback....every business does. If you don't appreciate it then fine but you are really doing yourself no favours by responding in such a way.
Originally posted by justinquote:id like to point out, that the hillside is a local neighbourhood restaurant in a pub that is specifically meant to be a place where locals can gather socialise and eat good wuality food at a realistic price. As far as an intimite evening goes, we have never advertised ourselves as that, as is the size, so why did you expect that mrs trimble? Why didnt you go to auberge du lac or zodiac for an intimate celebritory dinner. I believe that the majority of people that believe the hillside is expensive and cramped are naive and extremely ignorant.
Originally posted by Terri Trimble
Are all you guys shareholders in The Hillside or what???? We went for a celebratory meal on one occasion and were seated at a tiny table backing onto the door to the lavatories. So far as the food went - we basically ended up with fantastically expensive fish, chips and mushy peas. The service was pleasant, but the eating area unbelievably cramped. Luckily I knew the lady at the table across the aisle and we had quite a nice chat, but given Mr Trimble and I had wanted an intimate meal, this wasn't quite what we had planned. Another reviewer said it was nice to relax on the sofas with a coffee after the meal - we would have loved to have given that a try, but by 9.00 o'clock the early diners were well and truly rooted in for the night so the rest of the restaurant did not get a look in. We've not been back. [:I] Terri Trimble
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It seems to me that The Hillside doesn't know what it is trying to be, or whom it is targetting. I personally think it takes itself too seriously. It is, after all, an ex-pub painted to look like a restaurant.
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Justin I really think you need to re-visit the way you write your posts then because most of the responses you have made to feedback that isn't as favourable as you would prefer, tends to be dismissive & quite frankly I find it rude. It's ludicrous to think you can call people naive & ignorant because they think your restaurant is cramped. People have the right to express an opinion & I find it amazing that you are choosing to publicise yourself in this way. If we have the wrong end of the stick then maybe you need to explain yourself a little more in your replies.
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Justin...if you can't take the heat....vacate the kitchen[B)]
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quote:Ok. To be fair, i was merely commenting and not incinuating that anyone was ignorant. It is not meant as publicising, but, of course, we dont please everybody and i want to set the record straight, if you like, to potential first time visitors who may read this forum. I want to make clear what type of establishment we are, and what to maybe evpect and not to expect. I personally do not have a problem with peoples opinions and welcome any feedback, but what i will defend is our reputation and make it clear our aim. We are here to cater for the people and i feel that the persons comments im targetting at are unfair, but accepted, as i believe they take us for something we are not. And also, i dont believe the comment that we take ourselves to serious, but i think that a few people on here do, to find my comments annoying, rude, upsetting etc. I would like to apologise to those people i have upset so badly. And i would be grateful to mr admin if he could delete this thread, and i think i shall refrain myself from mentioning food on hertford.net or maybe hertford.net itself.[:(]
Originally posted by smileyoriley
Justin I really think you need to re-visit the way you write your posts then because most of the responses you have made to feedback that isn't as favourable as you would prefer, tends to be dismissive & quite frankly I find it rude. It's ludicrous to think you can call people naive & ignorant because they think your restaurant is cramped. People have the right to express an opinion & I find it amazing that you are choosing to publicise yourself in this way. If we have the wrong end of the stick then maybe you need to explain yourself a little more in your replies.
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Justin runs a restaurant in Hertford and, I would say, serves the best quality food. He is entitled to comment on his restaurant on this forum and to reply to comments about his establishment and his work. I can only guess how I would react if my own work was castigated so publicly. Should we expect people to take personal criticism and be surprised when they respond in a manner we do not expect, appreciate or understand? Surely Justin's manner of response is purely up to him. If it impacts upon his business then, again, that is up to him. In the past I have traded posts with Justin on this forum. But then I took the trouble to phone the man, have a chat and go to his restaurant. Personally, I have been to the Hillside twice and will go again. I applaud those who speak their mind, even if I grate against them myself. This forum is full of people who voice their opinions. And it thrives on it.
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Justin, you are obviously a busy Chap - when do you find the time to make all these posts [?] It's not an advertising forum, but this is now 7 pages worth and I can understand you wishing to voice your opinion if slated. I think I'll have to pop along just to find out now. The adverse publicity might have done you some good. (Maybe not bring the other halff, he needs a lot more space than I do) Everyone has different tastes thankfully or it would be an odder world than it already is[:p]
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yes of course they do & everyone DOES have the right to speak their mind BUT there is no need for rudeness to peoples comments and I have to say that considering the response to my opinions by a local businessman (who's food we are NOT criticising may I add) I wouldn't wish to visit now. At the end of the day, everything you do when you are in business is an ad, and Justin has simply shown me that he doesn't really care when people have a unfavourable opinion.
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I do agree with you. Maybe Admin should now just lock this Topic. Although I think Justin will probably find another Forum to weedle adverts into, then all the in-fighting will start again [V]
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quote:you reckon? Isnt the weather lovely today folks?
Originally posted by Tigger
I do agree with you. Maybe Admin should now just lock this Topic. Although I think Justin will probably find another Forum to weedle adverts into, then all the in-fighting will start again [V]
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I will make my final comment on the matter, because I feel I have been rather hostile, and for that I am sorry. Justin, thank you for that lovely spread you prepared for the Hertford Online get together a few months ago. The food was lovely (especially the caramelised pickled onions.... really, they are delicious) The whole thing was great, but then you ruined it by virtually ignoring everyone, turning your back on people who were after all your guests, and being quite rude about the event afterwards on the forum. With a restaurant such as yours, it is not just the food, which I have heard is wonderful, (you clearly take a great pride in what you do) but it is the whole package. Don't be dismissive of your guests. If you are, you will upset them, and no matter how good your food is, people will not want to give you the business. It is also not good business insulting a huge segment of the population. I hark back to your comment about the over 60s. Unless you want to put an age limit on your clientelle to create a young, sophisticated, vibrant ambience. You may find, the very people you are insulting, are the very people who have the money to eat at your establishment. [;)] I would have posted this to your private email, but you haven't included it.
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come on children... let's not argue! Fact - the hillside is by far the classiest, yummiest restaurant in hertford. Fact - if you don't want to go there/think it's too small/too expensive you don't have to go there. Fact - there are loads of restaurants in hertford - surely that's to cater for different people having different tastes. Fact - That's enough david brent for one day.
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without wanting to prolong the debate, none of that has been disputed.
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Er… I’m disputing it because one of Bengeobabe’s facts – that the Hillside is the ‘yummiest, classiest’ restaurant in Hertford - is not a fact, it is an opinion and I disagree. The food & wine are great, for sure, but the place has the ambience of a B&B dining room. In fact I would've thought the urine-reeking oldies Justin respects so much would be the main section of the population to prefer it - it certainly had a few coffin-dodgers in on the night I dined there, some months ago. I think it’s overpriced because while the food is very good, the venue does not really provide a special dining experience, in my view. And do they still do those early and late sittings on Fridays and Saturdays? I understand why they have to do that but it doesn't suit me. Happily, the rest of Bengeobabes facts are quite correct - I don't have to go there and there's lots of other places to choose from in and near Hertford. As for the chef – well, aren’t they supposed to be rude and volatile? Imagine a young, good-looking and talented chef who was humble and courteous, it just wouldn’t be right, would it? [:)]
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Justin, Myself and the better looking half once again had a cracking evening at your establishment last Saturday and thanks for popping out to say a quick hello. Look forward to the next time.
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quote:you are being very harsh i think. I really cant be bothered with a reply to this drivel, but first of all if you have a personal problem with me then why didnt you write a letter or come and see me? TO at least clear the air. The evening in question. How can you say i ignored everyone? I was working that evening and the soonest moment i had, i came out and introduced myself wholely to the group.I dont know who you were but maybe you went to the toilet or something and missed that? i dont know[?]and also you of course could guess whom i was im sure, so if i missed giving you a personal greeting for that i am so,so,so sorry. But couldnt you have introduced yourself to me? I would like to think that i would bet some back up from other attendees on this issue. I also believe that the evening was organised as a get together of the forum group, i did not personally invite anyone to attend something that was organised by myself, what i suggested was that if a venue was needed, the use of our lounge would be offered, and i would lay on a few nibbles. thats all. Being rude of the event afterwards as well, sorry i dont have a scooby doo wot u mean, maybe you can archive my rudeness? I cannot believe people are getting hot up on this board about miniscule little things such as "the over 60s" comment. For gods sake , really, why are we getting all wound up about a tongue n cheek remark ? i dont understand! I was joking after all, but i sometimes forget how uptight people can be, and should maybe keep my sense of humour locked up. Wizkid, im intrigued by your post, and to be honest think you are being harsh. If it was such a problem, why didnt you contact me by phone even, its not as if im uncontactable. I would like to apologise for my supposed rudeness at the event in question to everybody who was present. I too would like to draw conclusion to this debate as i feel i am hertfords most hated man. I cannot believe how serious people take themselves on this forum, and thats not critcising, but a bit of banter now and again doesnt hurt.
Originally posted by wizkid
I will make my final comment on the matter, because I feel I have been rather hostile, and for that I am sorry. Justin, thank you for that lovely spread you prepared for the Hertford Online get together a few months ago. The food was lovely (especially the caramelised pickled onions.... really, they are delicious) The whole thing was great, but then you ruined it by virtually ignoring everyone, turning your back on people who were after all your guests, and being quite rude about the event afterwards on the forum. With a restaurant such as yours, it is not just the food, which I have heard is wonderful, (you clearly take a great pride in what you do) but it is the whole package. Don't be dismissive of your guests. If you are, you will upset them, and no matter how good your food is, people will not want to give you the business. It is also not good business insulting a huge segment of the population. I hark back to your comment about the over 60s. Unless you want to put an age limit on your clientelle to create a young, sophisticated, vibrant ambience. You may find, the very people you are insulting, are the very people who have the money to eat at your establishment. [;)] I would have posted this to your private email, but you haven't included it.
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Justin...........you have a good restaurant, the best in Hertford. Have a beer and chill. All those in vehement disagreement with the chap, stop by for a drink with him and have a chat. He's a local businessman, after all. I found him open and honest.
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Ewoowar that's just the point, Justins posts dont come over very well on this forum and some people are finding them a little rude - why waste precious time in meeting a man that appears this way....[V] Justin if as you say they are meant to be humorous then you need to re-visit the way you write them and maybe add in some smileys here and there! [;)][:D][:p] Don't feel like you are the most hated man in Hertford just because some people object to your posts and are giving you feedback you don't want.
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If you think that Justin has been a bit of hot head Chef, think again! Can you imagine if Gordon Ramsey owned the Hillside. I personally think that its good that someone takes a lot of pride in what they do. So what if he has made a few "knee jerk comments" we all say things we regret sometimes. I did it on the Yellow line thread. Keep the comments comming Justin, but maybe reflect on some of the constructive advice, such as you did regarding chicken dishes.
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quote:Bit of a harsh comment, wizkid - I didn't think Justin was at all rude that night or afterwards. In fact, my wife thought he seemed "a little shy". Justin - how about applying for the next series of Hell's Kitchen - with 10 celebrity pensioners as your apprentices of course [:D]
Originally posted by justinquote:you are being very harsh i think. I really cant be bothered with a reply to this drivel, but first of all if you have a personal problem with me then why didnt you write a letter or come and see me? TO at least clear the air. The evening in question. How can you say i ignored everyone? I was working that evening and the soonest moment i had, i came out and introduced myself wholely to the group.I dont know who you were but maybe you went to the toilet or something and missed that? i dont know[?]and also you of course could guess whom i was im sure, so if i missed giving you a personal greeting for that i am so,so,so sorry. But couldnt you have introduced yourself to me? I would like to think that i would bet some back up from other attendees on this issue. I also believe that the evening was organised as a get together of the forum group, i did not personally invite anyone to attend something that was organised by myself, what i suggested was that if a venue was needed, the use of our lounge would be offered, and i would lay on a few nibbles. thats all. Being rude of the event afterwards as well, sorry i dont have a scooby doo wot u mean, maybe you can archive my rudeness? I cannot believe people are getting hot up on this board about miniscule little things such as "the over 60s" comment. For gods sake , really, why are we getting all wound up about a tongue n cheek remark ? i dont understand! I was joking after all, but i sometimes forget how uptight people can be, and should maybe keep my sense of humour locked up. Wizkid, im intrigued by your post, and to be honest think you are being harsh. If it was such a problem, why didnt you contact me by phone even, its not as if im uncontactable. I would like to apologise for my supposed rudeness at the event in question to everybody who was present. I too would like to draw conclusion to this debate as i feel i am hertfords most hated man. I cannot believe how serious people take themselves on this forum, and thats not critcising, but a bit of banter now and again doesnt hurt.
Originally posted by wizkid
I will make my final comment on the matter, because I feel I have been rather hostile, and for that I am sorry. Justin, thank you for that lovely spread you prepared for the Hertford Online get together a few months ago. The food was lovely (especially the caramelised pickled onions.... really, they are delicious) The whole thing was great, but then you ruined it by virtually ignoring everyone, turning your back on people who were after all your guests, and being quite rude about the event afterwards on the forum. With a restaurant such as yours, it is not just the food, which I have heard is wonderful, (you clearly take a great pride in what you do) but it is the whole package. Don't be dismissive of your guests. If you are, you will upset them, and no matter how good your food is, people will not want to give you the business. It is also not good business insulting a huge segment of the population. I hark back to your comment about the over 60s. Unless you want to put an age limit on your clientelle to create a young, sophisticated, vibrant ambience. You may find, the very people you are insulting, are the very people who have the money to eat at your establishment. [;)] I would have posted this to your private email, but you haven't included it.
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I think it's unfair to say that we were Justin's guests and that he ignored us. He simply and very generously made the space available for us and supplied finger food. This was above and beyond the call of duty and I for one am very grateful. I never felt he ignored us. Let's not forget that he was working that night as well!
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Clearly I misinterpreted the situation..... you may not be one of Hertford's most hated men, but you are certainly up there with one of the most talked about along with the Hillside. [:o)] Sorry if I was being unfair.
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Went Friday night for the 1st time. Fantastic food, great service and well looked after by Justin. Yes a little more expensive that other Hertford eateries, but well worth it. Only critasism, I could have done with a couple more Scallops, but thats cos I'm greedy!!! Cheers Justin
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quote:no problem, you had more scallops than normal, they are expensive, cost me £1 each. when you say expensive, victor, tell me what are you comparing us with in Hertford?
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Went Friday night for the 1st time. Fantastic food, great service and well looked after by Justin. Yes a little more expensive that other Hertford eateries, but well worth it. Only critasism, I could have done with a couple more Scallops, but thats cos I'm greedy!!! Cheers Justin
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Morning, was working yesterday afternoon for a change!! I said a little more expensive, but well worth it. On normal occasions we would eat in Lussmans, where the bill is around £40/50 depending on what you have, but I have been known to hit £60 in there. We both had a fabulous evening on Friday an thoroughly enjoyed the food (even the wife!) I for one did not grimace at paying a little extra for what was a special occasion with better fare. So far I think I have recommended to 8 or 9 sets of friend that they go to the Hillside, some have already been but not for a while. I would imagine that most of them will show there faces soon. In fact I will definitely be returning with some of them in the near future. I just have to find a space in my hectic schedule.
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If anyone's going now/soon, I recommend both the gazpacho & the summer pudding.
Reply ID 9275
Great night had by all on Monday. My parents in law where very very impressed. MY mil had never been there before and expected just posh pub grub. Thank-you Justin for sorting me a fat free meal out, the pork was fantastic, even managed to have the watercress soup minus the cream. The service was top notch, very friendly and helpful. I only have one complaint...........the front door squeaked!!!!
Reply ID 9299
Is there parking at The Hillside?
Reply ID 9302
quote:If not, there's parking across the road (and) at Harthams.
Originally posted by BettyB
Is there parking at The Hillside?
Reply ID 9303
quote:There used to be a small car park to the rear. I believe it is still there.
Originally posted by BettyB
Is there parking at The Hillside?
Reply ID 9313
quote:small car park at rear, normally there is spaaces unless our neighbours illegally park.[}:)]
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:There used to be a small car park to the rear. I believe it is still there.
Originally posted by BettyB
Is there parking at The Hillside?
Reply ID 10441
This may have been covered before in the 9 pages that preceed this but.........I have just been on the website for The Hillside and there is nothing on there except 2 pictures...........am I missing a link somewhere????
Reply ID 10443
There are some "menu items" along the bottom... Menus, Wine, Openigs, Directions etc
Reply ID 10448
Not any more, it all seems to have dissapeard. Justin will fax you menus if you call him.
Reply ID 10449
I did actually check before posting that the menu items were there and I've just checked again.
Reply ID 10450
please ignore the website. I will fax or post menus to you. Thanks
Reply ID 10481
justin - when is the hillside going to sort out it's website? you must be losing loads of business...
Reply ID 10504
A little bird told me that The Hillside was mentioned in the recent edition of the Michelin Guide as a noteworthy place to dine in Hertford. Justin, can you corroberate this? It's good to have such a great place in Hertford that we can walk back home from without the need for a cab or an allocated driver. We like the layout, the design & presentation of the interior and find it charming (but is the trunk in the sofa area a mite large?). Justin already knows my comments on the saddle of rabbit (yum) and we'll certainly be going back.
Reply ID 10506
quote:We have been in michelin pub guide for the second year, quite a feat, considering we have only been opened 2 1/2 years. Im with you on the whole area by the sofas, its a waste of space in my opinion. We are looking to maybe use this area for dining with tables and chairs to enable us to gain an extra 12 covers, therefore not be under so much pressure to turn the tables over on friday and saturday. however we intend for this area too have more relaxed furniture type of thing to encourage people to also come for a drink, and maybe a charcuterie or cheese board with a bottle of wine, or whatever tickles. My boss hopefully will see sense.[8D] Ps. there are only 500 places in britain to be awarded in this guide. Im quite proud of this. However, we can still improve.
Originally posted by farrowandfarrow
A little bird told me that The Hillside was mentioned in the recent edition of the Michelin Guide as a noteworthy place to dine in Hertford. Justin, can you corroberate this? It's good to have such a great place in Hertford that we can walk back home from without the need for a cab or an allocated driver. We like the layout, the design & presentation of the interior and find it charming (but is the trunk in the sofa area a mite large?). Justin already knows my comments on the saddle of rabbit (yum) and we'll certainly be going back.
Reply ID 10532
Is it possible to book the use of the sofas to eat at? The wife's a bit too pregnant to fit at the tables and we're thinking of one last meal out there before it becomes difficult for a while.
Reply ID 10534
Ill answer for Justin, yes it is. But they do get booked up. BTW Just I will be back at the beginning of next month with some pals see you soon.
Reply ID 10537
quote:Yes ,of course the sofas can be booked. Im on holiday next week, but let me know when you come.
Originally posted by skanky
Okay, thanks.
Reply ID 10564
This has gone way off-topic and turned into a messageboard for Hillside customers past, present and future. I will shortly be reviewing this particular thread. In the meantime please limit your posts to reviews of The Hillside.
Reply ID 10568
Or looking at it another way, the fact that the chef has to use this website because the facility to answer questions and show menus does not exist on his own website, shows what an old-fashioned, unprofessional and customer-unfriendly establishment it is. Sorry admin, I know you want reviews on this thread so I'll quickly add mine. The Hillside serves good food but is dated, pokey and overpriced.
Reply ID 10569
quote:I disagree, so do many others. Are you basing your opinion on one or more visits or have you just had the one bad experience? FYI They actually cooked a meal for my wife that was not on the menu on request, now I would not call that unprofessional or customer-unfriendly. If you really think that an average of £15 for a main course is expensive, can you submit a list of the great places you frequent, that are cheeper???
Originally posted by Rachel
Or looking at it another way, the fact that the chef has to use this website because the facility to answer questions and show menus does not exist on his own website, shows what an old-fashioned, unprofessional and customer-unfriendly establishment it is. Sorry admin, I know you want reviews on this thread so I'll quickly add mine. The Hillside serves good food but is dated, pokey and overpriced.
Reply ID 10573
quote:Menus are on the website, just not updated. I d like to think that its more personal to answer to requests myself. Although the website thing is poor, i think you are a tad harsh by your comments. of course you are completely free to do so, but i believe the hillside is great value for money, and the folk who think that its overpriced,etc etc, are exactly the type of people we do not want. Those people in question prbably think that pizza hut is good value. ps Thanks Victor, hope to see you soon, any requests, please dont hesitate to ring, id be only too pleased to create something for you.
Originally posted by Rachel
Or looking at it another way, the fact that the chef has to use this website because the facility to answer questions and show menus does not exist on his own website, shows what an old-fashioned, unprofessional and customer-unfriendly establishment it is. Sorry admin, I know you want reviews on this thread so I'll quickly add mine. The Hillside serves good food but is dated, pokey and overpriced.
Reply ID 10823
This is my review on the Hillside. I went there on Saturday with my friends, first impressions were that it was very inviting and the staff were accomodating. Enjoyed a superb G+T on the big leather sofa (very nice touch, dont get rid of them!) Then was given the menu, which was the disapointing part, I am not a fussy eater but I found it difficult to find something from the starters and the main course which I found appertising. This was such that Three out of the four people at the table played it safe and had the steak. The menu is too fussy! I think keep it simple and dont mix too many strong flavours in one dish! The atmosphere was great and service friendly. DID NOT like the service charge being added to the bill, I think tips should be deserves and we are turining towards the american way of living. All in all I will return if the menu is changed!
Reply ID 10842
quote:Not keen on that myself, though I've seen it is increasingly common, these days. I doubt that the Hillside do this, but apparently tips (maybe paid in this way) can be legally counted towards wages, so enable some restaurants to pay below minimum wage (I would expect that to be reflected in the service, which is why I think the Hillside doesn't do it). Last Tuesday, we were given the bill without the service charge added, which pleased me greatly, and I had thought that it may have been discontinued - maybe it was because Justin was away...? [;)] We tipped separately beacuse, as usual we couldn't really fault any part of the night.
DID NOT like the service charge being added to the bill, I think tips should be deserves and we are turining towards the american way of living.
Reply ID 10843
The Hillside do add service charge on to bill it even says so on their web site!
Reply ID 10844
Every decent restaurant I have ever been to has added service charges. Im afraid if you want to eat in decent places you will have to get used to it. I went with 6 people to Locanda Locateli's last year and the service charge was more than most would pay per head which I found a little unsettling, but you have to expect it these days. At least we do not have to tip everything that walks and talks like in the states!
Reply ID 10849
We Dont have to tip everything YET! I think it has no baring on it being a decent resturant what so ever, as it is what the individual likes and if they choose to return. I still believe that tipping should be down to the service they recieve and not just taken for granted. Any way off subject-thats my review and my thoughts on Hillside.
Reply ID 10851
I have just taken this from the menu on the Hillside. An optional service charge of 12.5% will be added to your bill; if you have not experienced good service, please tell us So it would seem that you did not have to tip there if you did not want to. I have in past refused to pay a service charge as the meal did not warrant it.
Reply ID 10852
I have to admit I don't like places putting a service charge automatically on as I think it gives people the impression the restaurant thinks they will never fault. It's a pressure you put on your customer rather than them being made to feel they have the option. Yes of course we have the option to remove the service charge but the point is to make the customer feel at ease leaving a tip or not. Many people (including my partner and my father) feel uncomfortable at telling the staff they will be removing the service charge and causing a 'scene'
Reply ID 10853
I totally agree with everything you have said. I mearly wanted to point out that everyone has a choice.
Reply ID 10868
quote:I know they used to do. But they didn't that night, so thought that they had stopped. As the website is very out of date, it could still say that, even if they hadn't.
Originally posted by Sister
The Hillside do add service charge on to bill it even says so on their web site!
Reply ID 10871
They did on saturday!
Reply ID 10872
quote:Yes I know, I was responding to your post to (a) say that it has been inconsistently applied and so might be in the future and (b) that because of that I had thought that they'd stopped, but they obviously hadn't. [:)]
Originally posted by Sister
They did on saturday!
Reply ID 10876
quote:We charge a 10% optional service charge, but this has been discussed on here too many times too start it again. I find it hard to understand your view on the food being too fussy. Wild Mushrooms on brioche Confit Lamb with red cabbage Butternut squash and cumin soup Spiced squid with lime. Just a couple of dishes that for me could not be simpler, my philosophy has always been simplicity is genius, and i think that what we do is along there. YOu say you are not a fussy eater, but you sound like a difficult eater, and would love to know why, and what, you think is too fussy. I was not present that evening but im sure that my colleagues would be more than happy to prepare a more simplistic meal for you. Nevertheless this is your opinion, and grateful we are for it, but so many others enjoy and return again and again, to differing menus throughout, but to the same style. Its unfortunate that you shalln't be returning to enjoy the experience that so many others do.
Originally posted by Sister
This is my review on the Hillside. I went there on Saturday with my friends, first impressions were that it was very inviting and the staff were accomodating. Enjoyed a superb G+T on the big leather sofa (very nice touch, dont get rid of them!) Then was given the menu, which was the disapointing part, I am not a fussy eater but I found it difficult to find something from the starters and the main course which I found appertising. This was such that Three out of the four people at the table played it safe and had the steak. The menu is too fussy! I think keep it simple and dont mix too many strong flavours in one dish! The atmosphere was great and service friendly. DID NOT like the service charge being added to the bill, I think tips should be deserves and we are turining towards the american way of living. All in all I will return if the menu is changed!
Reply ID 10878
That was wild mushrooms with kidneys on brioche! Sorry if I have offended you, but I did not say I would not return at all (only if the menu was changed). I may pop in for a G+T.
Reply ID 10879
Justin tends to post late in the evening, probably after a hard night in the kitchin. Please forgive him if he appears a little short.
Reply ID 10880
Personally I though he was much more diplomatic than he has been in the past [8D] Proud of his work! Keep it up.
Reply ID 10882
The menu changes regularly
Reply ID 10890
quote:with or without actually, but you didnt offend me[:D]
Originally posted by Sister
That was wild mushrooms with kidneys on brioche! Sorry if I have offended you, but I did not say I would not return at all (only if the menu was changed). I may pop in for a G+T.
Reply ID 10922
Service charge is a total liberty. The majority will pay well for the service they get and probably getore if good. If the service is good, even if the food is C**P we should be able to be able to pay for the bit we apprecite,not for the others....
Reply ID 11739
4th or 5th visit to this restaurant at the weekend. Absolutely nothing I could fault about service, food, wine, coffee. Disappointed the service charge is added on automatically but that's another story. I would rather make my own judgement. I can recommend the venison to anyone who's visiting shortly. It was superb. Loved the horseradish mash as well. Next time we go, I think we'll share the cheeses. Someone else was having them and they looked fantastic. No watery, tasteless tomatoes to be seen at all. Would love to see you in bigger premises so you can show your skills off to more people - as long as you stay in Hertford so that we can still walk there.
Reply ID 11758
quote:Thank you very much. I wont comment on service charge. Saturday was an absolute nightmare, my fryer packed in at 7pm and my fridge blew up at 8pm. i had my sparky friend in my sweatbox tiny kitchen fixing fridges in the middle of service, i couldnt move! but glad you enjoyed everything, venison comes from a contact in puckeridge and all my cheeses are tryed before listed, and i rotate them as often as poss. You should have popped in to kitchen to say hi, please do next time. Justin
Originally posted by 2929paul
4th or 5th visit to this restaurant at the weekend. Absolutely nothing I could fault about service, food, wine, coffee. Disappointed the service charge is added on automatically but that's another story. I would rather make my own judgement. I can recommend the venison to anyone who's visiting shortly. It was superb. Loved the horseradish mash as well. Next time we go, I think we'll share the cheeses. Someone else was having them and they looked fantastic. No watery, tasteless tomatoes to be seen at all. Would love to see you in bigger premises so you can show your skills off to more people - as long as you stay in Hertford so that we can still walk there.
Reply ID 11940
i agree about the added on service charge. maybe the service would be better if the waiters got tips directly?(this issue has been voiced on more than one visit to the hillside-by the staff!) k
Reply ID 11948
people do love to rant on about the service charge in this place eh? Surely, if it's a discressionary charge, don't pay it if you don't feel the service was worth it. Or, take it off the bill and tip the waiter/waitress with cash. Problem solved.
Reply ID 11959
I think maybe Admin should put a sign up on this topic. "Do not feed the animals they bite" If you are not happy paying the service charge, speak up and dont pay it, you are allowed to. Unless of course you would rather retreat to Hertford.net to vent your displeasure. Can anyone babysit for me Friday, I wanted to come to the Hillside with some pals but cannot get a sitter!!![:o)]
Reply ID 11974
quote:staff shouldnt be discussing whether they do or dont with customers, and i shall look in to "service would be better".
Originally posted by spicy twiglet
i agree about the added on service charge. maybe the service would be better if the waiters got tips directly?(this issue has been voiced on more than one visit to the hillside-by the staff!) k
Reply ID 12058
Had my 4th visit to the Hillside last Wednesday, unlike most on here for me it is expensive but saying that you don't walk out of the place thinking you've been done its worth every penny! Me and my partner don't bother with any other resturant in town now unless its a curry, theres no point they never live up to the Hillsides standards. The staff are fantastic and so is the wine menu and it caters for us both (me being a vegetarian and my partner enjoying red meat and seasonal stuff like partridge and venison). Infact the only thing I dislike is the other customers who feel the need to project there voices when discussing what to order or how big there wallets are. I only wish I had a big enough wallet to go every week![:)]
Reply ID 12124
Received the Hillside's promotional letter the other day - very good, particularly with the example menu. Thought it represented the place well particulary in the design/marketing element; an obvious growth from the previous missives and fitting for the michelin-mentioned status. Well done. Will be back as soon as time allows, we promise...
Reply ID 12717
proudly went to pick up my copy of egon ronays 2006 guide today. Been awarded 1 star, which is fantastic, only 70 other pubs in england have this accolade , the only other in herts is the cabinet.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Ps victor, im thinking of a "duo of local pheasant, the leg confit, the breast stuffed with black pudding and wrapped in smoked bacon" havent thought of garnish yet!
Reply ID 12719
quote:Congratulations Justin. We are chuffed that we have just got the BH back in the Good Beer Guide after 18 years absence so we know how proud you must be. Linda and Tony
Originally posted by justin
proudly went to pick up my copy of egon ronays 2006 guide today. Been awarded 1 star, which is fantastic, only 70 other pubs in england have this accolade , the only other in herts is the cabinet.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Ps victor, im thinking of a "duo of local pheasant, the leg confit, the breast stuffed with black pudding and wrapped in smoked bacon" havent thought of garnish yet!
Reply ID 12724
Congratulations!
Reply ID 12727
quote:
Originally posted by Roosterquote:nice 1 . did u get the menu i sent? Congratulations Justin. We are chuffed that we have just got the BH back in the Good Beer Guide after 18 years absence so we know how proud you must be. Linda and Tony
Originally posted by justin
proudly went to pick up my copy of egon ronays 2006 guide today. Been awarded 1 star, which is fantastic, only 70 other pubs in england have this accolade , the only other in herts is the cabinet.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Ps victor, im thinking of a "duo of local pheasant, the leg confit, the breast stuffed with black pudding and wrapped in smoked bacon" havent thought of garnish yet!
Reply ID 12728
Justin Congrats..........If like most things in life that are worth while, I'm sure you've put a lot of blood sweat and tears into this achievement. PS.....can you slip me an extra spud or 2 when we come in....wink wink.....
Reply ID 12731
Well done Justin. Add a few more smilies for me![:D][:D][:D
Reply ID 12734
being rated ny michelin was probably a bigger achievement, but its fantastic all the same[:D]
Reply ID 12739
quote:How fantastic! That's really good news, much deserved and long overdue. Does this now mean we get those charming little amuse bouches and the prices go up a heavy percentage?[:D]
Originally posted by justin
being rated ny michelin was probably a bigger achievement, but its fantastic all the same[:D]
Reply ID 12754
quote:depends if i get a discount when shopping in your deli?[:D]
Originally posted by farrowandfarrowquote:How fantastic! That's really good news, much deserved and long overdue. Does this now mean we get those charming little amuse bouches and the prices go up a heavy percentage?[:D]
Originally posted by justin
being rated ny michelin was probably a bigger achievement, but its fantastic all the same[:D]
Reply ID 12756
quote:Sounds spot on, Well done on the accolade as well.
Originally posted by justin
proudly went to pick up my copy of egon ronays 2006 guide today. Been awarded 1 star, which is fantastic, only 70 other pubs in england have this accolade , the only other in herts is the cabinet.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Ps victor, im thinking of a "duo of local pheasant, the leg confit, the breast stuffed with black pudding and wrapped in smoked bacon" havent thought of garnish yet!
Reply ID 12764
Congratulations.......something to throw in the face of your critics! Please don't put the prices up I have to save up before I can afford to dine at the Hillside already, any further increase and I will getting a loan out! [:(]
Reply ID 12770
quote:Thank you. Crtisism is not a problem for me. Dont worry about the prices, nothing will change.[8D]
Originally posted by Nicky
Congratulations.......something to throw in the face of your critics! Please don't put the prices up I have to save up before I can afford to dine at the Hillside already, any further increase and I will getting a loan out! [:(]
Reply ID 12772
What's going on tonight at the Hillside? Fire engines and police cars as far as the eye can see. Note from Admin: Please post as a new topic
Reply ID 12779
quote:fryers electrics caught fire, big mess, had to close, not to major really, but should be open tomorrow night
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
What's going on tonight at the Hillside? Fire engines and police cars as far as the eye can see. Note from Admin: Please post as a new topic
Reply ID 12803
Justin, what's going on with your web site? There's nothing on there but the address & tel number, plus a clickable pic to 2 more photo's and the Ash www site. Can you also send me your current menu please? Jon dot Littlefair at gmail dot com SORRY ADMIN!!! There's no email address on their www site.
Reply ID 12804
Its all still there just out of date. If you do a google search it only brings up their header page. To view the whole site you need http://www.thehillside.co.uk
Reply ID 12807
quote:a new website is currently being made. honest. yes i will send you a menu copy, we do change bits and pieces every day.
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Its all still there just out of date. If you do a google search it only brings up their header page. To view the whole site you need http://www.thehillside.co.uk
Reply ID 12828
[quote]Originally posted by justin I'll swop you a F&F discount card* for a Hillside discount card. We can also drop your order off on the way home! * Details are being sorted out; just keep your till receipts.
Reply ID 12848
quote:I have just put a thread on-line about discount cards to keep small traders local by giving the customers and incentive to shop locally. Something that Hazlemere are starting. Would you consider this for dedicated customers as well as other businesses? Just thought Cafe Nero were doing a similar thing with coffee - buy 9 get one free!
Originally posted by farrowandfarrow I'll swop you a F&F discount card* for a Hillside discount card. We can also drop your order off on the way home! * Details are being sorted out; just keep your till receipts.
Reply ID 12857
quote:we have such thing in place, but on the whole, the incentive as you say should be quality and value for money. not discount in my opinion.
Originally posted by Tigger I have just put a thread on-line about discount cards to keep small traders local by giving the customers and incentive to shop locally. Something that Hazlemere are starting. Would you consider this for dedicated customers as well as other businesses? Just thought Cafe Nero were doing a similar thing with coffee - buy 9 get one free!
Reply ID 12860
quote:As my post of 23rd September appears to have been roundly ignored I am now locking this topic. This section is meant to be for restaurant reviews but this thread features everything from service charges to Justin's Fryer Fire.
Originally posted by Admin
This has gone way off-topic and turned into a messageboard for Hillside customers past, present and future. I will shortly be reviewing this particular thread. In the meantime please limit your posts to reviews of The Hillside.