Topic ID 6496
60163 Tornado (The newest steam locomotive on the rail network) will be calling at Hertford North hauling the Cathedrals Express to and from Salisbury on Wednesday 4 April at 10.01 and 21.36. http://www.steamdreams.com/Executables/GT436TourCalendar.exe?ActionCode=TP&WebBookno=3585814&SS=SDSVR01SQLExpress&DB=SteamDreams&Division=A&bookingtype=T&date5=41003&Tour=71471&Route=1&Adu
Reply ID 87138
Tornado is an amazing engine! We took the children on the Catherdal Express from London Kings Cross to York last week. We will no doubt be stading at HN tomorrow taking more photos!
Reply ID 87140
timings here : http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t12/t0404a.htm am planning to pop along en-route to the muppet movie at stevenage world of cine. Nostalgiatastic mate...
Reply ID 87142
I'm not really bothered about trains but I like steam engines. Anyone know what platform, and roughly where the engine itself will stop? Might go along with the camera and tripod.
Reply ID 87148
that would explain the hundreds of people with tripods set up between waterford and stapleford this morning (trying to catch it as it zips from stevenage to hertford) at 10am. wondered what that was all about.
Reply ID 87149
It was late which was a shame as unfortunately my wife and 2 year old consequently missed seeing it. Anyone know when it might be coming back? (apart from late this evening which isnt an option!)
Reply ID 87150
24 minutes late........quite a sight. Hundreds of people up at Hertford North too.
Reply ID 87151
It is stopping back at Hertford North at 21:33 this evening.
Reply ID 87152
Grateful thanks are due to the rail staff at Hertford North who not only let us all on to the platforms but also kept us informed of the progress of the train...Well done. [:)] Apparently fifty passengers joined the train at Hertford apart from the hundreds on the platform so hopefully more steam specials will stop there in future.
Reply ID 87154
Not hundreds but certainly 60-70, I took the 0953 into Moorgate.
Reply ID 87155
quote:Steven............the Tornado was scheduled to arrive at 10:01 and eventually arrived over 20 minutes late. There may well have been 60-70 people when you caught your train but there was almost that amount on platform 2 alone when the Tornado pulled in. Platform 1 was quite full and I was told that approximately 50 people were due to board the train from platform 1 in addition to those just there to see it. I know this as I was there when the train pulled in, which you weren't. It's like going to a football match, leaving 20 minutes before the kick off when the ground is only half full and then disagreeing when the club say the ground was full for the match.
Originally posted by steven
Not hundreds but certainly 60-70, I took the 0953 into Moorgate.
Reply ID 87156
http://steamdreams.co.uk/executables/GT410WebContent.exe?SS=SDSVR01SQLExpress&DB=SteamDreams&Division=A&ActionCode=HP This is the company who runs main line tours!
Reply ID 87157
quote:I don't go to football matches so I'd have no idea, but for your metaphor to mean anything, you mean leaving 8 minutes before kick-off, and then having kick-off delayed for 20 minutes, so most of the fans would arrive after the originally set time. Perhaps they all knew it was going to be late and those hundreds of people arrived after I left, but it's very common for people to exaggerate. Not that it matters.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
It's like going to a football match, leaving 20 minutes before the kick off when the ground is only half full and then disagreeing when the club say the ground was full for the match.
Reply ID 87158
now now... more importantly, did anyone actually get some good pictures?
Reply ID 87159
quote:You're right. Basically it doesn't matter. You weren't there when the Tornado arrived so you seem to accept the fallibility of your argument. I was there. I missed the 09:53 to Moorgate as I didn't give two hoots for it. Nor did the many others who arrived after the wonderful 09:53 had departed. No exaggeration here, I can assure you. And it is a trifle weak to suggest such for something you have no first hand knowledge of. When your argument is based on something stronger than not being there when the event actually took place please return. In the meantime......
Originally posted by stevenquote:I don't go to football matches so I'd have no idea, but for your metaphor to mean anything, you mean leaving 8 minutes before kick-off, and then having kick-off delayed for 20 minutes, so most of the fans would arrive after the originally set time. Perhaps they all knew it was going to be late and those hundreds of people arrived after I left, but it's very common for people to exaggerate. Not that it matters.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
It's like going to a football match, leaving 20 minutes before the kick off when the ground is only half full and then disagreeing when the club say the ground was full for the match.
Reply ID 87161
quote:That was just my train to work, what does that have to do with anything? There is something wrong with you.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I missed the 09:53 to Moorgate as I didn't give two hoots for it. Nor did the many others who arrived after the wonderful 09:53 had departed.
Reply ID 87163
Anyone got any pictures they can share with us?
Reply ID 87164
Not enough light to get anything meaningful this evening so went for some motion blur instead, [img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7211/6899972644_06fd4442f3_c.jpg[/img] Despite the announcement to not use any flash photography, seems everyone else did.
Reply ID 87166
Nice shot!
Reply ID 87168
Steven, excellent. I might be able to share some snaps from my son's camera.
Reply ID 87169
Thanks chaps. I think the odd effect most noticeable on the wheels is because of the 50Hz flicker of the fluorescent lighting to my left. Settings were 35mm, f/5, 0.25s, ISO 3200.
Reply ID 87170
nice! did it still have a diesel engine on the back? kinda ruins the experience for me!
Reply ID 87173
quote:Unfortunately, yes.
Originally posted by codek2
nice! did it still have a diesel engine on the back? kinda ruins the experience for me!
Reply ID 87174
hey ho. I had assumed that was incase of breakdown,, but thinking about it, it's always running. So that means it must be doing some or all of the work. If it was just "incase" then surely they could just drag it along and not have it running. Thinking further; Perhaps it's to reduce the amount of water/coal the steam engine uses, because presumably there arnt that many places they can top up any more!
Reply ID 87176
Just wondering if the diesel loco was providing heating to some or all of the carriages.....
Reply ID 87177
While we're on the subject I see that the Epping Ongar Railway is resuming services on 25th May... http://www.eorailway.co.uk
Reply ID 87178
maybe; Although, i went on a steam train at christmas, and it was waaay warmer than the modern commuter trains! and mighty steamy inside too, so i guess that was heated by the steam engine! funny how older technology is better in that respect!
Reply ID 87181
Just sorting through my photos, but need to do some editing. Here is one of Tornado coming into Hertford North. [img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6901361006_1cd9c8675a.jpg[/img]
Reply ID 87183
quote:A man I was talking to who was waiting to see the Tornado said that sometimes the steam trains are refilled with water from a fire engine just outside Hertford at a point where it can access the track.
Originally posted by codek2
hey ho. I had assumed that was incase of breakdown,, but thinking about it, it's always running. So that means it must be doing some or all of the work. If it was just "incase" then surely they could just drag it along and not have it running. Thinking further; Perhaps it's to reduce the amount of water/coal the steam engine uses, because presumably there arnt that many places they can top up any more!
Reply ID 87184
ah, so thats how they do it! clever idea, and I guess the fire brigade must make some good money from this.
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