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24/05/2012 by Marilyn

Where is this building? - Its Gilbertson and Page

I am asking admin to add a photo here for me to see if anyone can identify where it is. [img]../images/forum/Hertbury1202.jpg[/img] It is possibly the Old Rectory at Hertingfordbury but don't want to go down a private drive to look so wondered if anyone can help or any other ideas where it might be.. I can only guess at date and who they are, it may have something to do with Stephen Austin but we don't really know for sure Marilyn


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Reply ID 88062

24/05/2012 by Louis M

Could it not be the offices of east herts council, round the back of county hall?


Reply ID 88063

24/05/2012 by Marilyn

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Originally posted by Louis M
Could it not be the offices of east herts council, round the back of county hall?
Thank you admin It could be, Leahoe do you mean? will investigate that.


Reply ID 88064

24/05/2012 by Steve

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Originally posted by Marilyn
quote:
Originally posted by Louis M
Could it not be the offices of east herts council, round the back of county hall?
It could be, Leahoe do you mean? will investigate that.
I think he means Wallfields, which was exactly my first thought, although comparing it to a current photo of Wallfields I'd say not.


Reply ID 88066

24/05/2012 by Marilyn

I shall go through my books and see if I have any old photos of Wallfields to compare it to. I have found an old photo of Wallfields in one of the books, it is a different angle but the windows don't look the same so I think Steve is right and it is not there.


Reply ID 88072

24/05/2012 by James007

It looks like part of the main building at Goldings.


Reply ID 88085

25/05/2012 by Marilyn

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Originally posted by James007
It looks like part of the main building at Goldings.
Thats another thought thank you I will investigate. It is a shame there is nothing on it e dtae, what the occasion was or who it was and we have boxes of photos from an old lady's house that have come from 2 sides of her family but they are mixed up. Only thing we are pertty sure of is that it will be local as both families were local from the mid 1800's when photography started! Going to take it into the museum on Tuesday and compare with their photos of the places mentioned, thanks for the ideas


Reply ID 88087

25/05/2012 by dennismoore

How old is the Old Rectory? This building looks like mid 19th century, but of course it could be an extension. The style of dress looks Edwardian to me, just look at those ladies ankles - what brazen hussies!


Reply ID 88094

25/05/2012 by Darcy Sarto

Back row from right - Wayne Rooney, GBS, Elgar and Gary Neville!


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25/05/2012 by Leo Densian

I've looked at pictures of the building on the Goldings web site but can't seem to make the two fit. If it is the Old Rectory, could they be Addiss factory workers? Or - how about Panshanger and the people are estate workers?


Reply ID 88096

25/05/2012 by Marilyn

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Originally posted by Leo Densian
I've looked at pictures of the building on the Goldings web site but can't seem to make the two fit. If it is the Old Rectory, could they be Addiss factory workers? Or - how about Panshanger and the people are estate workers?
There is no association with Addis as far as I know but will check that out, not sure what years the Addis family bought it? Looks too many to be a donestic staff picture I think even by Panshanger standards! I know one of the family was in service at The Grove in Bengeo but I don't think it is there. They could be Stepen Austin staff but that being the case does it look like any of the Austin family houses? Thinking again it could well be a staff photo as there are no children and no really elderly people so maybe I need to see if I can identify the people in the centre in the wicker chairs who presumably would be the "bosses"


Reply ID 88102

25/05/2012 by dennismoore

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Originally posted by Darcy Sarto
Back row from right - Wayne Rooney, GBS, Elgar and Gary Neville!
Not sure about Rooney, but GBS, Elgar and Gary Neville would certainly indicate a date of about 1900 - 1910.


Reply ID 88243

06/06/2012 by ldaniels79

I could be completely wrong, but the first place that popped into my head was 'Scott's House' opposite the end of Amwell End (directly facing the level crossing). I think it used to be a school or offices. It's probably wrong, but popped into my head, so thought I would share!


Reply ID 88246

06/06/2012 by Marilyn

Thanks I have a few ideas now to check out..............the more the merrier. I will let you know if and when I make a positive ID of the place and the people.


Reply ID 88251

07/06/2012 by jez_p

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Originally posted by ldaniels79
I could be completely wrong, but the first place that popped into my head was 'Scott's House' opposite the end of Amwell End (directly facing the level crossing). I think it used to be a school or offices. It's probably wrong, but popped into my head, so thought I would share!
I seem to remember a similar picture in the "Book of Ware" by Cyril Heath (or perhaps one of the many other similar books about Ware)


Reply ID 88252

07/06/2012 by Marilyn

I have found a couple of pictures on line not sure if it is the same house though it is certainly similar and probaly same age. I will look for that book. Scott House/ Amwell House is now part of the college but was at one stage the building used for Ware Grammer School. It was lived in by the Scott family of Scotts Grotto fame! But it is in WARE!!


Reply ID 88326

12/06/2012 by Marilyn

Just to let you know I have now identified it with the same on in the museum. They have it as 1920 Gilbertson and Page staff at the factory in Tamworth Road. It would make sense as the Gt Grandfather of the person that owns the photo worked for them. I have now had contact with someone researching G&P and he thinks it may be the family home of the Gilbertosn's Mangrove House as Tamworth Road was as far as we know just the factory. Have managed to we think identify 3 people in the photo Mr George Mansfield who worked for the firm for many years 3rd from left front row, he died 1923 so it was def before that date. Mr Albert Stacey Gilbertson owner centre in the spats Possibly Mr Johnny Reason who worked for them for many years first young man sitting a chair on front row right next to 3 ladies. If anyone else can indentify anyone we would love to know. One of them ought to be Mr Page I assume?


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