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Topic ID 7224

12/06/2013 by Marilyn

Wild Bird Cafe........

....has gone, it was there last week and no sign it was going but this morning people in there setting up some other outlet anyone know what?


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Reply ID 94238

12/06/2013 by Arty

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but in these times of austerity and retail decline, did the owners really believe that there was a market for a high street shop selling bird seed? Completely cuckoo if you ask me?


Reply ID 94239

12/06/2013 by Marilyn

I believe it was the people with the garden centre at Cole Green........................it seems to have meant that Riverside are stocking less so will have to see what happens now. Yes there is a market for wild bird food probably not enough to sustain a town centre stand alone unit though.


Reply ID 94240

12/06/2013 by Louis M

A friend at Van Hages (a buyer) told me that they were meant to be doing very well. Shame to see another empty unit and am sad that it didn't work for them.


Reply ID 94241

12/06/2013 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Louis M
A friend at Van Hages (a buyer) told me that they were meant to be doing very well. Shame to see another empty unit and am sad that it didn't work for them.
The shop is not empty. The existing owners are expanding their stock. They now have boots, garden lighting and watering cans, although I'm not sure about the greetings cards and reading glasses (or are they "gardening glasses")


Reply ID 94242

12/06/2013 by Louis M

Positive.


Reply ID 94243

12/06/2013 by mdja

I for one would welcome a place in town to buy gardening bits and bobs, to save having to drive out to garden centres all the time, so it sounds like a good move. I did buy some bird seed there once, but the birds refused to eat it. I think they preferred my neighbour's fat balls.


Reply ID 94247

12/06/2013 by Mr fixit

quote:
Originally posted by mdja
I for one would welcome a place in town to buy gardening bits and bobs, to save having to drive out to garden centres all the time, so it sounds like a good move. I did buy some bird seed there once, but the birds refused to eat it. I think they preferred my neighbour's fat balls.
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Reply ID 94256

12/06/2013 by Darcy Sarto

quote:
Originally posted by mdja
I for one would welcome a place in town to buy gardening bits and bobs, to save having to drive out to garden centres all the time, so it sounds like a good move. I did buy some bird seed there once, but the birds refused to eat it. I think they preferred my neighbour's fat balls.
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Reply ID 94257

12/06/2013 by Mark MG

quote:
Originally posted by i_support_no_team
I have taken over the shop from the previous occupier who as rightly pointed out has the garden centre. I originally hoped to just make it home and garden items and toyed with the idea of Gn'h'omes and Gardens as I do love a gnome. I do however have a huge quantity of greetings cards so I wanted to put them in although I accept they are a little out of place. I sell toys on the internet so may well add them in as well at a later stage. We aren't expecting to take fortunes in the outlet but a little support would be nice, when we had the old woolworths the negativity on this forum nearly put me off returning to hertford.
Good luck to you and I will come along and see what's on offer, and I hope others will support you too!


Reply ID 94600

11/07/2013 by Spice

quote:
Originally posted by i_support_no_team
I have taken over the shop from the previous occupier who as rightly pointed out has the garden centre. I originally hoped to just make it home and garden items and toyed with the idea of Gn'h'omes and Gardens as I do love a gnome. I do however have a huge quantity of greetings cards so I wanted to put them in although I accept they are a little out of place. I sell toys on the internet so may well add them in as well at a later stage. We aren't expecting to take fortunes in the outlet but a little support would be nice, when we had the old woolworths the negativity on this forum nearly put me off returning to hertford.
Again hats off to you, in these difficult times and with the crippling business rates, that the council charge. you should be encouraged, hope it works out. I myself will not be buying bird seed because my cat would so welcome any additional birds into my Garden I shall however be keeping an eye open for other goods that you sell so come on people of Hertford,show support for an indepent retailer or do you want another charity shop......


Reply ID 95803

24/09/2013 by Steve

Sadly the premises is now vacant again


Reply ID 95907

30/09/2013 by BugBear

Sign is up... Church Farm, Ardeley will be installing a farm shop. Best news for Hertford in some time!!


Reply ID 95918

30/09/2013 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by BugBear
Sign is up... Church Farm, Ardeley will be installing a farm shop. Best news for Hertford in some time!!
Great news and a long time needed. This will definitely be a success I am sure. I have been to this place before and their website is very professionally run.


Reply ID 95926

30/09/2013 by buzz

sounds good,but its Ardeley Hertford :)


Reply ID 95935

30/09/2013 by newboy

Don't really understand. What's the difference Buzz?


Reply ID 95937

30/09/2013 by Ted Badger

quote:
Originally posted by newboy
Don't really understand. What's the difference Buzz?
It's a Hertford forum, not a Stevenage one perhaps?


Reply ID 95939

30/09/2013 by buzz

Bang on Ted


Reply ID 95941

30/09/2013 by Taxing

I presume Bugbear meant a sign is up in the vacant Wild Bird Cafe premises, so it will be in Hertford?


Reply ID 95942

30/09/2013 by Steve

The sign in the window says "farm shop opening here"


Reply ID 95943

30/09/2013 by Marilyn

Will be interesting to see how a farm shop works in a town centre.


Reply ID 95957

30/09/2013 by codek2

it's the place in stevenage who also do veg boxes. Hope it doesnt have any negative effect on foxholes!


Reply ID 95958

30/09/2013 by Quatermass

quote:
Originally posted by James007
quote:
Originally posted by BugBear
Sign is up... Church Farm, Ardeley will be installing a farm shop. Best news for Hertford in some time!!
Great news and a long time needed. This will definitely be a success I am sure. I have been to this place before and their website is very professionally run.
I guess the websites more professional then the farms live in vet? http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Banned-vet-fails-to-get-restrictions-lifted-20130926151008.htm High welfare food indeed.


Reply ID 95983

01/10/2013 by Darcy Sarto

quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
quote:
Originally posted by James007
quote:
Originally posted by BugBear
Sign is up... Church Farm, Ardeley will be installing a farm shop. Best news for Hertford in some time!!
Great news and a long time needed. This will definitely be a success I am sure. I have been to this place before and their website is very professionally run.
I guess the websites more professional then the farms live in vet? http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Banned-vet-fails-to-get-restrictions-lifted-20130926151008.htm High welfare food indeed.
On the basis it was the Farm's owner who effectively "dobbed him in" I would say this is proof of an ethical approach rather than any sort of negative connotation.


Reply ID 96006

01/10/2013 by Quatermass

quote:
Originally posted by Darcy Sarto
quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
quote:
Originally posted by James007
quote:
Originally posted by BugBear
Sign is up... Church Farm, Ardeley will be installing a farm shop. Best news for Hertford in some time!!
Great news and a long time needed. This will definitely be a success I am sure. I have been to this place before and their website is very professionally run.
I guess the websites more professional then the farms live in vet? http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Banned-vet-fails-to-get-restrictions-lifted-20130926151008.htm High welfare food indeed.
On the basis it was the Farm's owner who effectively "dobbed him in" I would say this is proof of an ethical approach rather than any sort of negative connotation.
You seem to suggest that as long as you ‘dob in’ your employee before somebody else does that proves your ethical? I don't see it that way. The fact is a supposedly high welfare farm ripped a (allegedly dead) calf out of its mother with a JCB, killing both animals. I think that's pretty shocking from any farm, let alone one that claims to be high welfare.


Reply ID 96008

01/10/2013 by Darcy Sarto

Sorry - I am clearly not in possession of all the facts - I only read the article you posted. The vet got the blame, the farm didn't - you seem to know more? Please elucidate.


Reply ID 96009

01/10/2013 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
The fact is a supposedly high welfare farm ripped a (allegedly dead) calf out of its mother with a JCB, killing both animals.
No, a self-employed vet did, which is probably why he was sanctioned and not the farm.
quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
I think that's pretty shocking from any farm, let alone one that claims to be high welfare.
From the link you posted: "Farm owner Tim Waygood was away visiting his late father that day. But hearing rumours of the incident a week later, he invited the RSPCA to investigate every aspect of the farm and the incident fully for transparency."


Reply ID 96011

01/10/2013 by Quatermass

I only know what was in the press. http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Vet-used-digger-to-drag-calf-from-cow-at-Ardeley-farm-20130521141703.htm The farm employed the vet so surely they take some responsibility?


Reply ID 96012

01/10/2013 by Quatermass

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
The fact is a supposedly high welfare farm ripped a (allegedly dead) calf out of its mother with a JCB, killing both animals.
No, a self-employed vet did, which is probably why he was sanctioned and not the farm.
The vet lived and worked on the farm, that's not self employed as far as i'm concerned.
quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Quatermass
I think that's pretty shocking from any farm, let alone one that claims to be high welfare.
From the link you posted: "Farm owner Tim Waygood was away visiting his late father that day. But hearing rumours of the incident a week later, he invited the RSPCA to investigate every aspect of the farm and the incident fully for transparency."
And your point? The vet, who worked for the farm, caused the death of at least one animal. What part of that is not shocking? So the farm owner called in the RSPCA, so he damn well should have. Did he sack the vet? at the time of the court case he was still living on the farm.


Reply ID 96014

01/10/2013 by Darcy Sarto

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