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Topic ID 7453

01/11/2013 by glyner

By-Pass around Hertford

Does any one know who to contact about putting pressure on the Highways department to get a decent By-pass around the Town instead of through the middle as the amount of accidents on the M25 seem to be increasing and making Hertford a misery[:(!]


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Reply ID 96478

01/11/2013 by Capitalist piglet

Mark Prisk would be one way. But don't hold your breath...... The 414 does need upgrading though


Reply ID 96479

01/11/2013 by buzz

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
Mark Prisk would be one way. But don't hold your breath...... The 414 does need upgrading though
As far as I'm aware the A414 doesn't pass through any part of Cornwall, so Mark Prisk wouldn't be interested.


Reply ID 96480

01/11/2013 by Mrs T

Traffic and parking surely? This has been debated for years and years and years, to no outcome.


Reply ID 96481

01/11/2013 by Robbo

Green belt land, rural northern Home Counties, NIMBY's, v a relief road for the M25 - sorry but it ain't gonna happen in the lifetime of anybody reading this forum.


Reply ID 96482

01/11/2013 by James007

Obviously, the Little Hadham by-pass has been given priority along with improvements to the A602 Ware to Stevenage section. http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/transtreets/tranpan/hertsltb/majorsherts/ltbA120BP/ I doubt that this will assist traffic in Hertford when there is a divert following a problem on the M11 or M25 but there were a lot of foreign haulage vehicles creeping along the A414 at Gascoyne Way for most of the day, trying to get to the A1 maybe.


Reply ID 96483

01/11/2013 by Steve

http://www.hertford.net/issues/bypass.asp I'm sure we could have a whip round amongst forum members to meet the cost. [:D]


Reply ID 96484

01/11/2013 by james

Bad idea. Building more roads is like a fat man loosening his belt to ward off obesity.


Reply ID 96486

01/11/2013 by glyner

quote:
Originally posted by james
Bad idea. Building more roads is like a fat man loosening his belt to ward off obesity.
Have you tried driving in Hertford today. All they have to do is link the A414 from the Great Amwell roundabout to Hatfield and then Hertford would not get grid locked when the M25 goes tits up.


Reply ID 96488

02/11/2013 by James007

Probably off topic but The Beeching Cuts of 1963 might have now shown a negative affect. Freight trains and public transport are proving a subject for discussion.


Reply ID 96492

02/11/2013 by codek2

has been endlessly discussed, and there's definately a "grass greener" thing going on here. If there was a bypass the commercial aspect of the town itself would suffer. A simpler solution which would make a significant improvement would be to ensure it's dual carriageway all the way through. Also; Building a bypass "just in case" of m25 accidents is hardly a good use of money; Outside of accidents in the local area traffic generally isnt too bad around Hertford ( certainly no worse than anywhere else)


Reply ID 96495

02/11/2013 by glyner

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
has been endlessly discussed, and there's definately a "grass greener" thing going on here. If there was a bypass the commercial aspect of the town itself would suffer. A simpler solution which would make a significant improvement would be to ensure it's dual carriageway all the way through. Also; Building a bypass "just in case" of m25 accidents is hardly a good use of money; Outside of accidents in the local area traffic generally isnt too bad around Hertford ( certainly no worse than anywhere else)
That is much of the problem you cant do dual carriageway under the bridge by the Esso garage and every morning and from about 3pm it is bad along the A414. This week it has been 3 times because of M25. I do not see how the commercial aspects of the town would suffer as the traffic is just passing through not stopping to buy anything


Reply ID 96499

02/11/2013 by Sudi

quote:
Originally posted by james
Bad idea. Building more roads is like a fat man loosening his belt to ward off obesity.
And your solution is....................???


Reply ID 96500

02/11/2013 by codek2

but you could do dual carriageway under the bridge quite easily, certainly for a lot less cost than a new bypass. then problem solved. merging is always a disaster on busy roads (obviously some further tweaks all through town would help too)


Reply ID 96501

02/11/2013 by glyner

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
but you could do dual carriageway under the bridge quite easily, certainly for a lot less cost than a new bypass. then problem solved. merging is always a disaster on busy roads (obviously some further tweaks all through town would help too)
Its to narrow under the bridge to be dual carriageway


Reply ID 96502

02/11/2013 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
but you could do dual carriageway under the bridge quite easily, certainly for a lot less cost than a new bypass. then problem solved. merging is always a disaster on busy roads (obviously some further tweaks all through town would help too)
The bridge is just one of many "obstructions" that include pedestrian crossing and roundabouts. All of these interrupt the free flow of traffic. Quite simply, the road was never meant to handle the same volume of traffic as the M25. As mentioned, this has been discussed at length for over 20 years. The principle stumbling blocks are funding and route. See also archived discussions here... http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=893 http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=893 http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=893


Reply ID 96503

03/11/2013 by codek2

obviously it is too narrow now. So make it wider. Its not rocket science. you could even demolish the houses next to it if that space was needed. Would cost a lot less than miles of new road through the countryside. (and in fact these days bridge widening is a relatively simple and common thing)


Reply ID 96509

03/11/2013 by kevsaunders

The trouble is that instead of a bypass, they demolished the town a few decades ago. Far as I can tell because they didn't want to upset anyone rich.


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