Topic ID 784
All, you may or may not be aware by now that there are explosions rocking London, and also reports of similar so far in Swindon & Brighton This has already affected the local train stations - all trains have been haulted at Stevenage - don't know about the ones for Hertford East. Get your contingency plans ready! Hope all our loved ones are safe
Reply ID 8475
Sitting here in my office in Tower Hill. No way that I know of to get home...so if anybody does know what is running please post it. We were told we could leave if we wanted...but where do you go on a day like this.
Reply ID 8477
many people have been told to stay in their office unfortunately - you are lucky I guess
Reply ID 8478
Well nowhere to go at the moment and it is definitely safer indoors than out. Fourth time I've been through this sort of s***...very depressing.
Reply ID 8479
Been listening to radio & TV for some time - presumably you've seen the train websites - 1/2 hour sevice from Finsbury Park & what is described as a shuttle from Tottenham Hale to Cambridge (assuming a stop at Broxbourne & train or bus to Hertfrd East) looks like tube down for sometime (maybe into tommorrow) & buses will resume when transport for London decide. Again prob not for a bit. If I had gone in today I'd probably risk a walk towards FP or TH or just in general direction of Tottenham /Enfield ( up the A10 or along the River Lea! I could stop for a beer or two..) in the hope that buses are working outside central London & I could get connections - Problem is when things do get back to any sembelence of normality the system will be swamped. Good luck PS: Have to say have to say this flies in the face of official advice to stay by your desks but.....
Reply ID 8490
why were the Al Qaeda posts taken off? can we not even say who did it anymore?!
Reply ID 8531
Do not to point the finger to fast or you take a chance of missing who really did this !!
Reply ID 8536
Don’t’ tell me, another conspiracy theory? Lets face it was 99% rather crap terrorists, Al Whatsit or a Mickey Mouse “follow” group. My heart goes out to those dead & wounded & their families, but this lot managed in 4 years of rather rubbish planning to cause less disruption (albeit 50 plus murders) than a couple of inches of snow…… I ‘m not overly keen on being terrorized by anyone , but by a bunch of CSE grade 5 muppets , fighting for a cause they can’t even spell, let alone understand ; I don’t think so…. See you in London tommorrow..
Reply ID 8537
quote:maybe but will we ever really know?! I am just repeating what the news has stated - these were the people claiming responsibility at the time
Originally posted by Stan
Do not to point the finger to fast or you take a chance of missing who really did this !!
Reply ID 8542
A delicate subject , open minds is all i am saying. It will probably turn out to be who we think it is, i for one wont even type there name !! Peace
Reply ID 8544
Point taken Stan .. & be with you (& hopefully all of us). Now lets get back to finding a Hertford slant on this...
Reply ID 8594
Not a Hertford slant I'm afraid, but the following good advice was emailed to me this weekend: Following the disaster in London East Anglian Ambulance Service have launched a national "In Case of Emergency (ICE)" campaign. The idea is that you store the word “I C E" in your mobile phone address book, and against it enter the number of the person you would want to be contacted "In Case of Emergency". In an emergency situation ambulance and hospital staff will then be able to quickly find out who your next of kin are and be able to contact them. It's so simple that everyone can do it. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's mind at rest. For more than one contact name ICE1, ICE2, ICE3 etc.
Reply ID 8596
yes me too, I have instead put Emergency Call Gary for instance as not everyone will know what ICE means
Reply ID 8599
quote:I think the idea is to spread the use of ICE as a standard practice. Then it would be the first address people look at. Perhaps the mobile phone companies should set ICE as a fixed entry in the mobile phones telephone book and it is then just up to you to add the number you require.
Originally posted by smileyoriley
yes me too, I have instead put Emergency Call Gary for instance as not everyone will know what ICE means
Reply ID 8600
On the face of it (ICE) a good idea, but (& its a big but) I've got some reservations in terms of some scumbag whos nicked your 'phone misusing this (with pretty upseting consiquences) I for one don't put "home" or "parents" on my mob because ther have been instances of parents or your home being targeted... particually if you have an address book nicked at the same time (or now your organiser on your mobile). Rather sad that we have to think this way particualy with an on the surface rather good idea... Sad world...
Reply ID 8602
I agree, I also have the names of loved ones disguised. I think ICE is a good idea and could be open to abuse but also the scum that nick phones could use your call register or text messaging to work out your most frequesnt calls which would probably be someone close (or just the bloody Estate Agent) We all hold ourselves open with the technology we use.
Reply ID 8605
A lot of phones (not all) do have the ability to PIN protect it for use (this is in addition to using the PIN protection used on start-up). This also has the advantage of stopping it ringing people up from your bag or pocket. It might be worth considering as a feature to look out for.
Reply ID 8607
Yes, but that does defeat the idea of the ICE thing.
Reply ID 8608
Ah yes, good point. [B)]
Reply ID 8609
yet again another one of my posts deleted from this morning on this point grrr
Reply ID 8610
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Reply ID 8611
my comment was no more conversational, off-topic, flippant, insignificant or anything else than the rest of them. It is happening an awful lot more recently is all. Enough said.
Reply ID 8701
As we all know there was the horrific bombings in London on Thursday 07th July 2005 during the morning rush hour. With being 52 people dead and 700 injured. As a mark of respect there was a two minute silence to mourn for our dead on Thursday 14th July 2005. With Hertford being the pathetic town that it is, from what i could see there was very little people that stood outside of their companys or on the street to show any respect at all. I AM TOTALLY DISGUSTED.. The Old Cross (Dead S****y (Hairdressers), Cursons, Good Food Shop)in Hertford probably saw no more than 10 people, The Folly people carried on with there normal daily life dustbin men making as much noise as normal, is this type of people that live in this town... cant spend two minutes to stop what they are doing.. THANKS HERTFORD FOR BEING A TOTAL LET DOWN... angry angry
Reply ID 8703
That's very harsh. I don't think it was a lack of respect, more likely a lack of awareness. As the bombings were on prime Hertford commuter lines and many of us know someone closely affected by them I personally think that most Hertfordians have more deeply held feelings about this than many of our compatriots, and it doesn't have to be publicly displayed to be heart felt. Knee-jerk, over-zealous reactions such as yours are one of the symptoms of fundamentalism and should be condemned. A 2 minute silence may endorse solidarity, but it doesn't bring back the dead or heal the wounded.
Reply ID 8704
We have a 2 min silence at work every year on September 11 (we had floors 104/105 in the WTC) and to be honest i can't see the point. It wont bring back the many friends who died that day. Same thing in this case. The cynic in me says it's all a great PR exercise to make people feel better.
Reply ID 8705
From what I saw it was quite well obseved in my part of (South East City) London & many people came out onto the street but I asked the people in my office.If they wanted to go outside fine, if they wanted to be on their own fine, if they did'nt want to that obsevance whatever - it was left up to them. Must say Angry, how you managed to make it from Old Cross to Folly Island in 2 minutes whist obseving the silence (and presumably standing still) is a mystery to me ... Did other parts of Hertford observe it?
Reply ID 8706
I agree with Nora, and it would be interesting to hear from others who were in Hertford at noon as to whether the silence was instead observed inside buildings. I had got the impression that the message about standing outside was aimed more towards London, where the silence served not only to remember the victims, but also to show that people were not going to be frightened out of the city, as everyone was seen to be standing in the streets together. It had a signicant impact around my office, where people poured onto the streets, and many cars pulled over. As in Hertford, not everyone participated in this way, for whatever reason.
Reply ID 8710
I was in the Tesco's car park at noon, so got out of the car and stood in silence as did a few others, one cleverly half blocking the exit onto Ware Road!. During it people were milling about driving into to Tesco's, trying to get out and loading their cars up, apparantly blissfully aware of the silence. It was well advertised, Most of the National Newspapers had it on the front covers, BBC TV talked about it this morning. Radio one and Hertbeat FM both observed it. When I was in Tesco's prior to noon, they did inform Customer's and Staff that this was happening. I know of one company in Railway Street that encouraged their staff to go outside if they wished to do so.
Reply ID 8711
quote:I genuinely believe that the majority of those you mention would not have been aware that there was a 2 minutes silence. Do not expect that everybody is aware simply because you were. Not everybody reads the same papers or listens to the same radio stations. I also beleive that if you had pointed the matter out to them they would have participated and honoured the silence. Different people pay their respects in different ways. I work in a large, busy office in Hertfordshire. I did not feel the need to stand in the street to pay my respects and I don't feel it would have added to the sincerity of my feelings if I had done so. at 12:00 I was in a meeting and a short burst on the office fire alarm signified the start of the two minutes silence. I stood for the two minutes instead of remaining sitting only because a couple of the others in the room felt the need to do so. I understand your anger but suggest you demonstrate some understanding and tolerance yourself.
Originally posted by angry
As we all know there was the horrific bombings in London on Thursday 07th July 2005 during the morning rush hour. With being 52 people dead and 700 injured. As a mark of respect there was a two minute silence to mourn for our dead on Thursday 14th July 2005. With Hertford being the pathetic town that it is, from what i could see there was very little people that stood outside of their companys or on the street to show any respect at all. I AM TOTALLY DISGUSTED.. The Old Cross (Dead S****y (Hairdressers), Cursons, Good Food Shop)in Hertford probably saw no more than 10 people, The Folly people carried on with there normal daily life dustbin men making as much noise as normal, is this type of people that live in this town... cant spend two minutes to stop what they are doing.. THANKS HERTFORD FOR BEING A TOTAL LET DOWN... angry angry
Reply ID 8729
also, as most of us are working around that time, actual remembering the silence is about to occur can be a difficult thing if you haven't been reminded - was in the in the lift at the time! And no, I wasn't going to stand still while the doors open and shut! People do pay their respects differently and that 2 mins could have proven very important for somebody to pick their child up from nursery or the like - I'm sure the roads filled with cars didn't stop and I'm sure we wouldn't have wanted them to.
Reply ID 8733
Mill Mead Primary observed 2 mins silence - not easy for 250 children.
Reply ID 8734
I agree and that is great, just depends on your point.
Reply ID 8739
i'm affraid i didnt stand out side but i did remain silent in work for two mins. as did the other workers Gini
Reply ID 8742
Ewoower sums this all up well. If you were on the M25 what would you have done? Observing a silence is down to the individual, I do get very annoyed in my stores where we announce a silence on the tannoy system, informing customers that our staff will be observing a silence and then to have customers trying to get served at the tills almost preventing the staff member from observing it! But on the whole I believe that the majority of people, if aware would observe a silence particularly when concerned with something as horrific and close to home as this was.
Reply ID 8745
Frau Fandango was in Boots yesterday....fully observed there.
Reply ID 8800
London Transport must be in a good position to investigate this tragic incident. The man with overall responsibility for public transport in London is Bob Kiley, the Commissioner and Chairman of London Transport. Mr Kiley is a former CIA operative known to have reported directly to the Director of US Intelligence. The man responsible for London Underground, Managing Director Tim O'Toole, another American executive, reports directly to Mr Kiley. I think it is a reasonable assertion that between them these gentlemen will know more than most people about exactly what happened in London that day.
Reply ID 8804
Do you trust US intelligence, after Iraq?
Reply ID 8806
That is a fair question. I can only reiterate my previous remark:- "It is a reasonable assertion that between them these gentlemen know more than most people about what happened in London that day."
Reply ID 8807
Heading way off-topic. This thread is actually not a Hertford issue but I've allowed it up until now, given the moment and it's importance. However, the moment has now passed and I would ask that the discussion be brought to a close.
Reply ID 8808
shame, we love a bit of intrigue!
Reply ID 9007
More explosions in London today, but apparently not as serious as before.