Topic ID 992
Just realised no one has mentioned anything about baroosh - what do people thing about this place. Whilst its full of pretentious people its not a bad place - is it?
Reply ID 10874
It is a really people watching place - love the comfortable sofa's but usually fully taken - what is it with all the guys wearing black shirts
Reply ID 10883
At first glance (from outside) Baroosh seems packed, noisy and self-consciously trendy. But I've discovered it has a bit of a split personality. Behind the initial crowd, there's always chairs available and the music volume doesn't preclude you from holding a conversation. The selection of beer is good (try a 'vase' of Erdinger at least once) and there's enough bar staff to get served quickly. The food is also worth a try, as the normal Gastropub fare is given a bit of a twist. I now go there at least once a week. I find it holds a nice position inbetween the pumping cattle markets of The White Hart/Stonehouse, and the quieter more relaxed pubs like The Old Barge. Lively but sociable. [8D]
Reply ID 10884
Its not as good as it used to be. The music is turned up too loud too early. Or am I just getting on a little now! I will have to do some more research tonight!
Reply ID 10885
Im amazed that there isnt one pub within five miles that can match the excellent gastro menu at Baroosh. Money for some smart landlord to be made with a bit effort i think (esp as Barrosh doent allow kids).
Reply ID 10901
Victor Meldrew...the only person I know with a voice loud enought to compete with the music in there. :-)
Reply ID 10904
Yes, sampled the delights last night and thought, while I was out that I might as well give No11 a bash as well. Seriously wishing I had stayed in now!!!
Reply ID 10935
It's good on a on a Sunday moring: the sofas and pineapple juice can nurse a hangover and the music is more eclectic and at a suitably background level. The food's ok but the menu gives more promise than the actual food and the Sunday morning service is as laid back as it can get. One wonders if the staff are a little hung over too [:D] In the evenings, it's too loud, packed, self-conscious and degenerates into yet another meat market. My hearing is fairly poor when the stereo is on loud (too much volume during my teenage years!), so I give up on interacting and my gurning in response to other's conversational gambits seems to put people off their stride! The biggest mis-management of client interaction was experienced at a birthday party. We started the evening there, birthday boy wore a rugby shirt and was allowed in without comment at 6pm. Come 7.30pm a member of staff worked their way through our well behaved grown-up crowd and told him that he had to put his jacket on (it was August...) because there was a no sports shirt policy. Why didn't they employ a little diplomatic courtesy when we first arrived and told us the house policy for a Saturday night?
Reply ID 11429
Tried the all day breakfast butty yesterday mmm delish. Tried to act as cool as possible but was completely outclassed by all the young things.
Reply ID 11434
I do love this place, but it annoys me having to queue to get in to any bar. More so when it'sempty at the back a lot of the time.
Reply ID 11439
quote:Why?
Originally posted by thefair1973
I do love this place
Reply ID 11441
It's okay outside of Friday and Saturday evenings...who wants to queue to get in, queue to get served, queue for the toilets...aargh !!!
Reply ID 12560
Agree about the music. Its seems to be turning into a chavs disco on Friday and Saturdays now.
Reply ID 12567
Thats what I dislike about it now. I like to have a bita banta with my mates before I have drunk too much to care how loud the music is. These days we start in the Barge then move on to No11.
Reply ID 18250
Went there last night. They are have introduced a table/waiter service for the non-smoking section and will see how it goes before spreading it to the whole bar. Our waitress was the friendliest we've ever experienced in there and it was a pleasure.
Reply ID 23119
I went mid-week last week and its table service everywhere now. Although I haven’t been for a long time on a ‘peak night’ it would probably be quite nice to get your drink orders taken from your table and not have to fight your way back and forth to the bar. Then again, you may have to still fight just to get a table in the first instance. I also ate there for the first time in a while too and whilst I personally found their food in the past to be ‘ok’ this time the food didn’t seem as good. Their menu range has shrunk also. Plus, they always used to serve the food with jars of spicy tomato chutney, a balsamic dressing and a honey/mustard dressing. Now you only get Heinz tomato sauce. *edit* Oh, and all their purple sofas have all been recovered from the suede feel fabric they used to have to a new nasty mock plastic/leatherette – maybe it’s for their wipe clean characteristics.
Reply ID 23125
Can anyone define the term "gastropub" which seems to be so widely used by some? As I understood it, it referred to pub style premises with a full restaurant kitchen, creating original and prepared from scratch, in house food. Baroosh is so not that, it's menu being assembled from bought in standard products. This it does very well, but it could be argued that the "Free range ham and eggs" (gammon and chips, in layman's terms) is the meal most dependent on chef's skills that it serves. Baroosh's breakfast butty comes in a soda farle, whereas Mead Lane Cafe serves the same in bread. Does that bread product make it Gastro? I'm not knocking it. Presentation and precise assembly on a plate is a skill of it's own.
Reply ID 23130
I think your post sort of answers your question. There is no definition for a "gastro-pub", its a label that pubs use in order to try and emphasize that THEY believe their food is better than the norm. Where you place the measuring stick for norm is up to you. If anything avoid most gastro-pubs like the plague these days.
Reply ID 23133
quote:You are right, its a fad, any pub with a blackboard with bangers and mash on it classes themselves as a gastro pub, i prefer to use the term "restro pub".
Originally posted by Frenchie
I think your post sort of answers your question. There is no definition for a "gastro-pub", its a label that pubs use in order to try and emphasize that THEY believe their food is better than the norm. Where you place the measuring stick for norm is up to you. If anything avoid most gastro-pubs like the plague these days.
Reply ID 23187
quote:As a matter of interest, or I may just be pedantic, but how does "Free range ham and eggs", constitute gammon and chips??
Originally posted by shunt
Can anyone define the term "gastropub" which seems to be so widely used by some? As I understood it, it referred to pub style premises with a full restaurant kitchen, creating original and prepared from scratch, in house food. Baroosh is so not that, it's menu being assembled from bought in standard products. This it does very well, but it could be argued that the "Free range ham and eggs" (gammon and chips, in layman's terms) is the meal most dependent on chef's skills that it serves. Baroosh's breakfast butty comes in a soda farle, whereas Mead Lane Cafe serves the same in bread. Does that bread product make it Gastro? I'm not knocking it. Presentation and precise assembly on a plate is a skill of it's own.
Reply ID 23307
What you recieve is a lump of cured pork, cut and cooked as a steak with eggs and chips. In other venues it's called gammon and chips and you may choose eggs or pineapple. The cure of the meat may make it ham not gammon, but the two meals are so similar, that it could be called either without complaint. I'm not knocking Baroosh. It does what it does very well and consequently, you'll often find me there, tucking into free range ham and eggs, or in the White Lion with gammon and chips with egg. You could swap the plates and nobody would send it back as "not what I ordered". I have yet to sample your own "Gammon ham, eggs and chips", but I'll make a point of it.
Reply ID 23507
I used to go to Baroosh about once a month, in the evening during the week for a bite to eat. The menu was reasonable, with a few regulars and a few dishes changing every few weeks. As somebody else has said, a good selection of drinks and the atmos lively enough without being too busy (if that makes sense!). Nothing special but good value & casual. However, I went in this saturday with a group of friends and it was all going well until I picked up a menu...! It has definetly shrunk!! The regulars (Ham/Gammon & eggs etc...) are still there but nothing of any interest on top of that. Also when the food arrived it was like a half hearted attempt at recreating what they used to do, a bit bland, smaller portions etc. Does anybody know why the change. It is a real shame because this was a great half-way between restaurant & pub mid-week. But no more it seams, it is now just a nice place to go for a drink.
Reply ID 23519
I thought they changed to having 2 menu's. 1 lighter snack menu and a menu for larger meals.
Reply ID 23523
quote:Not as far as I could see, Only one menu with both options on. I would gladly be proved wrong though... Maybe I should go and check it out again this week, I may aswell have a pint of Erdinger while I'm there, oh well all in the name of research!!
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I thought they changed to having 2 menu's. 1 lighter snack menu and a menu for larger meals.
Reply ID 23527
Yep, two menus, depending what time you visit. Added together, they are still less inspiring than the original. What happened to vegetable chim.....chimi......the mexican thing? That was great, if unfair to poor readers!
Reply ID 33663
Looks like its being totally gutted when i walked past today .
Reply ID 33669
This came up on another thread. 12 day refurbishment followed by re-opening as a non-smoking pub.
Reply ID 34210
What day is the reopening? I have some friends coming down this weekend and wanted to pop in with them. Snug is getting a bit too packed while this work is going on!
Reply ID 34211
quote:Tomorrow (19th) I believe
Originally posted by Michael
What day is the reopening? I have some friends coming down this weekend and wanted to pop in with them. Snug is getting a bit too packed while this work is going on!
Reply ID 34212
that would be good timing! Thanks Steve. I'll start queuing at 5pm then.
Reply ID 34245
I hope they improve it, I avoid Baroosh like the plague at the mo.
Reply ID 34254
I didnt think it was a complete referb? The notice in the window says it is to replace the wooden floor
Reply ID 34277
Yesterday - 6.45pm about 6 Blokes outside cuddling their pints on Guiness, probably deciding what to do next. How long can it take?
Reply ID 34542
eh? anyway.. So how is it? went past on Saturday lunch time, looked busy as ever, and indeed didnt look much different, maybe a bit lighter?
Reply ID 34546
Lighter. And the new floor darker. And that's it. I'm sure it cost a fortune.
Reply ID 34571
Waiter/ess service available - dunno if that's just on quiet nights. Ashtrays replaced by tea lights. New cocktail menu with toe-curlingly jaunty descriptions such as 'cranberry muddled with vodka' and 'topped up with champers, dahling.' *embarrassed cough* [:I]
Reply ID 34593
The cocktails are not *that* bad circa £6 - I didn't try the champagne ones though. 'Muddling' and 'Muddled' is a common drinks mixing term – indeed, I own a Muddler at home. I noticed they now have upped the ante on the bottled champagne front now stocking Dom Perignon – they didn’t have prices anywhere so perhaps some poor unfortunate will order it looking to impress and not realising it is somewhat dearer than their previous high-end tipple of Veuve.
Reply ID 34604
quote:And nowhere near as good in my humble opinion [;)]
Originally posted by Avarice I noticed they now have upped the ante on the bottled champagne front now stocking Dom Perignon – they didn’t have prices anywhere so perhaps some poor unfortunate will order it looking to impress and not realising it is somewhat dearer than their previous high-end tipple of Veuve.
Reply ID 34609
What was it like coming out of there not reeking of smoke?
Reply ID 34622
quote:Coming out is much the same. Push doors, exit onto street. Being inside feels a little like being in a private clinic waiting room, but without the magazines. The clientelle has definately changed. I wonder where the usual suspects are drinking now.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
What was it like coming out of there not reeking of smoke?
Reply ID 34644
quote:Somewhere that they can have a cigarette (at the moment) and not foot the bill for the 'refurb' ?
Originally posted by shuntquote:Coming out is much the same. Push doors, exit onto street. Being inside feels a little like being in a private clinic waiting room, but without the magazines. The clientelle has definately changed. I wonder where the usual suspects are drinking now.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
What was it like coming out of there not reeking of smoke?
Reply ID 34669
quote:Table service has always been on in the afternoons if they're not too busy, and to be fair the "champers, dahling" cocktail is the only one that makes one embarassed, but is called an "Ab Fab" :)
Originally posted by Rachel
Waiter/ess service available - dunno if that's just on quiet nights. Ashtrays replaced by tea lights. New cocktail menu with toe-curlingly jaunty descriptions such as 'cranberry muddled with vodka' and 'topped up with champers, dahling.' *embarrassed cough* [:I]
Reply ID 34700
Blues outside ........... No firemen to be seen, appliance parked half way on pavement - anyone know what's going on.
Reply ID 34704
Unfortunately alot of the Baroosh clientele drink in No 11 now and they are rude and arrogant ar$$holes.
Reply ID 34705
quote:I must say, however, that the doormen at No 11 are always polite to people passing by, unlike some establishments.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Unfortunately alot of the Baroosh clientele drink in No 11 now and they are rude and arrogant ar$$holes.
Reply ID 34743
Spot on Ray. They are extremely polite but can handle trouble if it occurs. Message to Baroosh drinkers - PLEASE RETURN THERE
Reply ID 34794
quote:what other establishments are thay then ray care to share the wealth?
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beanequote:I must say, however, that the doormen at No 11 are always polite to people passing by, unlike some establishments.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Unfortunately alot of the Baroosh clientele drink in No 11 now and they are rude and arrogant ar$$holes.
Reply ID 34816
quote:Zeros in particular.
Originally posted by doormanstuquote:what other establishments are thay then ray care to share the wealth?
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beanequote:I must say, however, that the doormen at No 11 are always polite to people passing by, unlike some establishments.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Unfortunately alot of the Baroosh clientele drink in No 11 now and they are rude and arrogant ar$$holes.
Reply ID 34835
Spent a lot of Sunday in Baroosh.. Strange.. Replaced all the really comfy chairs with higher softer banquets, but all with tables.. they are obviously wanting to do a) more food b) distance themselves from being just a drinking haunt.. Its cut down the room and I liked the sofas a lot I miss them already[V] ALso the really funny thing was a friend was visiting from Belgium (Cuffley born and bred originally) and bought her 6 month old baby along, poor us, the baby at 6 months is not allowed in Baroosh.. !!! I don;t think she's going to binge drink yet, but it was a laugh to be ejected with a small carrycot! Way to go!
Reply ID 34837
quote:That happened to me too, DQ, trying to go in Baroosh with a friend with a toddler. They said they have 'no children's licence', a reason that is given in several pubs for banning rugrats - perhaps anyone with a knowledge of licensing laws reading this could elaborate? Does a licensee really have to apply for permish to admit supervised kids or is this just an excuse?[?] Personally, now that my days of trying to go out for a drink with kids in tow are long gone, I welcome places like Baroosh that don't admit chldren. [^] There's plenty of child-friendly choice nowadays for Hertford parents - for example, the Snug resembled some hellish creche when I met friends there on a Sunday afternoon recently - and it's nice for those of us who don't like sharing our leisure time with other people's little'uns to be able to enjoy places with a 100% adult ambience. [:)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
... the baby at 6 months is not allowed in Baroosh..
Reply ID 34839
quote:You obviously knew that I would reply to this Rachel, so here goes. There definitely has to be a provision on the licence for children. Baroosh (or Macs) have obviously opted out of this, whereas we allow children on the premises, as long as they are under control, until 8.00 pm. We do not get that many children here anyway.
Originally posted by Rachelquote:That happened to me too, DQ, trying to go in Baroosh with a friend with a toddler. They said they have 'no children's licence', a reason that is given in several pubs for banning rugrats - perhaps anyone with a knowledge of licensing laws reading this could elaborate? Does a licensee really have to apply for permish to admit supervised kids or is this just an excuse?[?] Personally, now that my days of trying to go out for a drink with kids in tow are long gone, I welcome places like Baroosh that don't admit chldren. [^] There's plenty of child-friendly choice nowadays for Hertford parents - for example, the Snug resembled some hellish creche when I met friends there on a Sunday afternoon recently - and it's nice for those of us who don't like sharing our leisure time with other people's little'uns to be able to enjoy places with a 100% adult ambience. [:)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
... the baby at 6 months is not allowed in Baroosh..
Reply ID 34842
quote:Thanks Rooster, that explains the 'children's license'. It's definitely not a Macs policy to opt out of the provision for children, as several other Macs pubs admit supervised kids up to certain times, like the Black Horse does. (When my kids were little, they used to like coming to the Black Horse for the lovely garden and for some reason they were fascinated by the staircase down to the bar! [:)])
Originally posted by Rooster There definitely has to be a provision on the licence for children. Baroosh (or Macs) have obviously opted out of this, whereas we allow children on the premises, as long as they are under control, until 8.00 pm. We do not get that many children here anyway.
Reply ID 34863
i'm all for keeping the little people out[:D] i cannot stand nothing more than having a nice "quiet"drink with my girlfriend then all of a sudden there's a baby screaming it's nuts off chucking grub everywhere[:(!] if i want that i'l go to a family pub!!
Reply ID 34864
quote:I agree. Though I'm on my second brood of children, when I go out it is often to take a break from parenthood. The last thing I want is to be surrounded by other people's children!
Originally posted by doormanstu
i'm all for keeping the little people out[:D] i cannot stand nothing more than having a nice "quiet"drink with my girlfriend then all of a sudden there's a baby screaming it's nuts off chucking grub everywhere[:(!] if i want that i'l go to a family pub!!
Reply ID 34877
I completely agree - sorry, I don't think kids should be in pubs at all. It's really annoying for everyone else!
Reply ID 34880
quote:Perhaps the government will ban them. [:D]
Originally posted by shuntquote:I agree. Though I'm on my second brood of children, when I go out it is often to take a break from parenthood. The last thing I want is to be surrounded by other people's children!
Originally posted by doormanstu
i'm all for keeping the little people out[:D] i cannot stand nothing more than having a nice "quiet"drink with my girlfriend then all of a sudden there's a baby screaming it's nuts off chucking grub everywhere[:(!] if i want that i'l go to a family pub!!
Reply ID 34882
quote:Generally or just in pubs?
Originally posted by Victor Meldrewquote:Perhaps the government will ban them. [:D]
Originally posted by shuntquote:I agree. Though I'm on my second brood of children, when I go out it is often to take a break from parenthood. The last thing I want is to be surrounded by other people's children!
Originally posted by doormanstu
i'm all for keeping the little people out[:D] i cannot stand nothing more than having a nice "quiet"drink with my girlfriend then all of a sudden there's a baby screaming it's nuts off chucking grub everywhere[:(!] if i want that i'l go to a family pub!!
Reply ID 34883
No, only in pubs as they could be deemed anti social to those that do not have them or have given them up. [:D]
Reply ID 34890
quote:[:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
No, only in pubs as they could be deemed anti social to those that do not have them or have given them up. [:D]
Reply ID 34921
i'v often been asked where i work? "what you should bounce in mothercare"sounds like it might come true.[:D].[B)]
Reply ID 34931
quote:Ahaaaa - you'll be working in the 'pub formerly known as Mothercare' then.
Originally posted by doormanstu
i'v often been asked where i work? "what you should bounce in mothercare"sounds like it might come true.[:D].[B)]
Reply ID 35121
Baroosh was chosen by me, prior to being ejected with sleeping 6 month old baby and her mother, because it was A) not a pub B) its smoke free, serves coffee, croissants and stuff. I wouldn't take a child into a pub and agree with Rachel and her sentiments, but it was just for an hour, I picked a place with comfy seats and room we could not obstruct people.. so we went to Cafe Nero and got caffeinated there.. its not a moan, just a simple error... I thought it would be better than a pub because its quieter, and markets itself as a bar doing cafe/bar/diner type things.. I know how annoying it is in pubs when the Pushchair Posse come to town!!!
Reply ID 35135
quote:I agree wholeheartedly. Pubs are not for children full stop. What sort of parents want to expose their kids to people drinking, perhaps getting drunk, smoking (not for much longer), possibly using 'ripe' language, maybe getting into arguments etc., but ultimately for the fact that they are for adults who want and enjoy spending time in the company of other adults, and not having to put up with someone else's children whining, yelling and generally behaving badly. Some parents' ideas of keeping their children under control is at odds with what is generally regarded as acceptable behaviour: climbing on tables (don't do that Tristram), jumping on seats (oh don't do that Tristram), knocking drinks over (oh Tristram, don't do that) yelling and screaming (oh darling, listen to Tristram, he's so vocally entertaining and talented, I'm sure everyone loves hearing him) and generally spoiling things for everyone else. Ban them? Not possible, but not everyone loves little Tristram as much as his Mummy and Daddy think they should, so please don't inflict him on people who are trying to enjoy the adult environment of pubs.
Originally posted by Jo S
I completely agree - sorry, I don't think kids should be in pubs at all. It's really annoying for everyone else!
Reply ID 35148
I think that to say the kids should not be in pubs full stop is a bit of a sweeping statement, and not necessarily very well thought out. Different pubs cater for different customer bases, and there are enough pubs out there, especially in Hertford, for customers to pick and choose where to spend their hard earned. As a father and a publican, I love the fact that I can take Sally (wife) out for a meal with our baby (Alex) and be well looked after in a pub environment. I have had some good experiences in Hertford pubs as a dad, and I am sure that when we have left, the manager (or whoever) has looked at the £50 odd quid I have spent as easy money. At the same time, if I want to go out for a drink with the lads, I won't pick a family pub, but one that caters for adults only. It seems that you see pubs only as somewhere where it is highly likely that you are going to come across bad language and arguing. That doesn't have to be the case. Horses for courses. If little Tarquin is creating and the parents don't care, then it's time to go to another pub. You have the luxury of choice.
Reply ID 35150
Thought I'd mention this: despite its new 'non-smoking' status people were definitely smoking in Baroosh on Saturday night. [xx(] Always puzzles me why people think this place is sophisticated or full of posers. It's not. On weekend nights it is populated by tattooed fake-tanned pikey girls, raddled Chav divorcees and Essex shirt boys. I felt right at home. [;)][:)]
Reply ID 35153
quote:I can totally see why you say that, as a parent. But to some non-parents, kids in pubs (and restaurants after about 7pm) are annoying, noisy and whiny. Obviously not all kids are, but I think those qualities are in their job description [;)] It's true that I have very little patience for children but obviously parents need somewhere to go with their little ones. Doesn't mean I have to like it though [:D]
Originally posted by publandlord
I think that to say the kids should not be in pubs full stop is a bit of a sweeping statement, and not necessarily very well thought out. Different pubs cater for different customer bases, and there are enough pubs out there, especially in Hertford, for customers to pick and choose where to spend their hard earned. As a father and a publican, I love the fact that I can take Sally (wife) out for a meal with our baby (Alex) and be well looked after in a pub environment. I have had some good experiences in Hertford pubs as a dad, and I am sure that when we have left, the manager (or whoever) has looked at the £50 odd quid I have spent as easy money. At the same time, if I want to go out for a drink with the lads, I won't pick a family pub, but one that caters for adults only. It seems that you see pubs only as somewhere where it is highly likely that you are going to come across bad language and arguing. That doesn't have to be the case. Horses for courses. If little Tarquin is creating and the parents don't care, then it's time to go to another pub. You have the luxury of choice.
Reply ID 35170
Baroosh, in particular, has always had a strict over 21 policy. Of all the pubs to take a child into, it's probably the most likely to eject children.
Reply ID 35171
I must point out my visit to Baroosh was a) Sunday afternoon 4th February and b) 4pm.. hardly late night drinking! I am glad I know that kiddies asleep and not disturbing anyone are not allowed and I won't make the mistake again, but you can see why I thought it would be an appropriate place at that time of day...
Reply ID 35176
quote:Absolutely! It does look like a coffee bar and is devoid of identifying atmosphere.[:D]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
I must point out my visit to Baroosh was a) Sunday afternoon 4th February and b) 4pm.. hardly late night drinking! I am glad I know that kiddies asleep and not disturbing anyone are not allowed and I won't make the mistake again, but you can see why I thought it would be an appropriate place at that time of day...
Reply ID 35595
Popped into Baroosh on Saturday lunch time for the first time since the refurb - no smoking - waiter service thing. It was full, lively and the clientèle was decidedly mixed - dare I say it - it was very 'continental'. I was impressed and they still do the all-day breakfast bap. Definitely recommended. [:D]
Reply ID 35643
Waiter/table service has been in place for a very long time already :)
Reply ID 35792
I would rather stick hot pins in my eyes than go in this place!!!
Reply ID 36648
quote:Not if you live near to a pub that permits its customer's kids to run riot in the street.
If little Tarquin is creating and the parents don't care, then it's time to go to another pub. You have the luxury of choice.
Reply ID 36651
quote:Since when, did a landlord/lady have jurisdiction over kids in the street, which is clearly off licensed premises. That is the responsibility of the parents and not the licensee.
Originally posted by dingoquote:Not if you live near to a pub that permits its customer's kids to run riot in the street.
If little Tarquin is creating and the parents don't care, then it's time to go to another pub. You have the luxury of choice.
Reply ID 36656
quote:I said customer's kids not kids in the street. One can infer from the word 'customer' that the parents are on the licensed premises. For example, take a situation where somebody is drinking in a pub and they are ignoring their children. The children are bored and are amusing themselves by vandalising next door's flower bed. The neighbour phones the pub and complains. What would you do: a) Say, "Okay, I'll have a word with the customer. Thanks for letting me know." b) Say, "Since when, did a landlord/lady have jurisdiction over kids in the street, which is clearly off licensed premises." ?
Since when, did a landlord/lady have jurisdiction over kids in the street, which is clearly off licensed premises. That is the responsibility of the parents and not the licensee.
Reply ID 36689
quote:I am telling you that children who are playing in the street, have nothing to do with the licensee of a public house, whether they belong to customers or not. The fact is, that they are not on licensed premises and therefore not the problem of licensee. And how would you know that they were children whose parents were in the pub without approaching them and speaking to them? These days, strangers approaching children in the street is not the done thing, is it? I will say no more on the matter. End of argument with me.
Originally posted by dingoquote:I said customer's kids not kids in the street. One can infer from the word 'customer' that the parents are on the licensed premises. For example, take a situation where somebody is drinking in a pub and they are ignoring their children. The children are bored and are amusing themselves by vandalising next door's flower bed. The neighbour phones the pub and complains. What would you do: a) Say, "Okay, I'll have a word with the customer. Thanks for letting me know." b) Say, "Since when, did a landlord/lady have jurisdiction over kids in the street, which is clearly off licensed premises." ?
Since when, did a landlord/lady have jurisdiction over kids in the street, which is clearly off licensed premises. That is the responsibility of the parents and not the licensee.
Reply ID 63479
Wandered in last night as no queue , obviously Hertford House has killed the place dead . Sparsely populated and the bouncers seemed to have given up any dress code as one bloke was bowling around in a Spurs hat , class .
Reply ID 63489
It was very busy Saturday night when we were there from about 8.30pm onwards. So busy we ended up in the Salisbury so we could actually get served and hear eachother speak.
Reply ID 63494
We were in Baroosh Friday night and although it was quieter than normal, I would say the town was generally quiet, as when I was last in there a couple of weeks ago it was packed. Wandered along to Hertford House later and I wouldn't have said that was packed, although we did have a good time and the DJ was good. One gripe, I note that HH seem to be adopting Baroosh's old policy of making people queue up, more for effect that due to overcrowding.